NyM410 J-E-T-S 50085 Posts user info edit post |
Can someone tell me what the Diamondbacks are doing? (besides singlehandedly destroying the Mets season)
Why would you ever trade for Ryan Church, Bobby Crosby and D.J. Carrasco? I don't care who you give up. Would it not make more sense to get a random A+ or AA low level prospect instead of three 30+ part-timers/relievers? Mindnumbing for a team with NO chance at the postseason.
[Edited on July 31, 2010 at 1:17 PM. Reason : x] 7/31/2010 1:16:54 PM |
ncstatetke All American 41128 Posts user info edit post |
what's the DH? 7/31/2010 1:54:02 PM |
hey now Indianapolis Jones 14975 Posts user info edit post |
designated hater
Lilly and Theriot to the Dodgers for Blake Dewitt and two minor league pitchers. Nice deal for both teams. I like it from a Cubs' perspective as Dewitt is a bit better than Theriot (Dewitt also contracted through 2014) and they most likely will re-sign Lilly in the offseason.
[Edited on July 31, 2010 at 2:34 PM. Reason : f] 7/31/2010 2:27:41 PM |
ncstatetke All American 41128 Posts user info edit post |
should I start Berkman tonight against Garza?
I could start him over Cuddyer at my 1B slot or I could throw him in a utility slot and put Matt Kemp on the bench 7/31/2010 2:56:07 PM |
Mr E Nigma All American 5450 Posts user info edit post |
Yankees acquire Kerry Wood. 7/31/2010 3:52:46 PM |
NyM410 J-E-T-S 50085 Posts user info edit post |
Does that mean the fat hick has lost his 8th inning setup role for good this year?
And what is up with these teams basically paying the Yankees for taking their players? Is saving $1.5M really worth it for the Indians here? Isn't Wood going to be at least a Type B? If so I'd rather take that compensation pick than whatever crap minor leaguer the Yankees will shit out. 7/31/2010 4:02:52 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148441 Posts user info edit post |
ahaha Kruk just said he knew a Latin player in the minors who ate nothing but hot dogs for breakfast, lunch and dinner for an entire month because that was the only food he knew how to say in English 8/1/2010 7:19:07 PM |
Madman All American 3412 Posts user info edit post |
french toast http://www.movieweb.com/movie/sugar/VI7Bfea7juco9e
[Edited on August 2, 2010 at 9:51 AM. Reason : .] 8/2/2010 9:51:09 AM |
ncstatetke All American 41128 Posts user info edit post |
i glad Ozzie decided to run his mouth. he'd been out of the headlines for entirely too long....i was getting worried 8/2/2010 9:52:38 AM |
hey now Indianapolis Jones 14975 Posts user info edit post |
I'm 99% of the time annoyed by Ozzie, but he's correct about the double standard. 8/2/2010 12:24:47 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148441 Posts user info edit post |
not really...there are plenty of Spanish speaking people on every single MLB team...I don't think its that difficult to convey something to them when you have multiple bilingual people in every MLB dugout....thats simply not the case with Asian players 8/2/2010 1:39:05 PM |
Ernie All American 45943 Posts user info edit post |
In addition to Tree's point that like half of every team is bilingual, most Asian players that come to the US are established veterans with gigantic contracts. A club is going to spend big money to provide all kinds of luxuries that a 19 year-old Cuban with a league minimum contract isn't going to get. 8/2/2010 1:55:45 PM |
ncstatetke All American 41128 Posts user info edit post |
there are thousands of parking spots at the mall. why do the handicapped people need the good spots. there are a ton of people around who could help them in and out of their cars and help wheel them to the mall entrance 8/2/2010 1:59:50 PM |
Ernie All American 45943 Posts user info edit post |
I don't get it, try again 8/2/2010 2:02:59 PM |
Madman All American 3412 Posts user info edit post |
it's a handicap. only certain people with the handicap are getting special help -- the azns. I think ozzie guillen is just saying, what's the big deal.. why can't teams spring for even one spanish-to-english translator. it'd probably go a long way.
translators don't cost that much 8/2/2010 2:46:48 PM |
Slave Famous Become Wrath 34079 Posts user info edit post |
All the Dominican and Rican players learn English in the instructional and winter leagues from 15 on. If they're not fluent by the time they get to the states, they're close. Vlad Guerrero is one of the only veteran players who still needs a translator, and thats just because he's stubborn. 8/2/2010 2:56:10 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148441 Posts user info edit post |
If I take a trip to China, and nobody in the city I visit speaks English, I certainly will need a translator, or some type of translation aid.
However if I took a trip to China, and half of the city I visited spoke fluent English, I wouldn't really need a translator 8/2/2010 3:05:13 PM |
Madman All American 3412 Posts user info edit post |
these minor league teams, especially A ball teams, operate in pretty podunk towns. I'm not sure half of kinston speaks spanish
I don't really understand why some of y'all are being so defiant to what OG said. it's not costing you anything.
[Edited on August 2, 2010 at 3:21 PM. Reason : .] 8/2/2010 3:19:02 PM |
NyM410 J-E-T-S 50085 Posts user info edit post |
Half of Kinston doesn't even speak English very well.
I'll preface this by saying I haven't seen what Ozzie said yet.
That said, I imagine a good percentage of these teams have multiple bilingual players and coaches. Not saying it's not a problem in the cases where that isn't true of course.
Also, wouldn't this be a team problem? Not a league-wide problem? Isn't it the teams who hire/pay the translators? Or is there some rule passed down by MLB outlawing any non-Asian translators... 8/2/2010 3:22:30 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148441 Posts user info edit post |
minor leagues, yes, thats a different story...there are definitely more communication problems between spanish speaking and english speaking players and managers
but in the majors, its not really a problem 8/2/2010 3:48:16 PM |
Madman All American 3412 Posts user info edit post |
Teams can provide whatever services they want to the players they pay. Indeed it is a team "problem" (if you view it as such) that certain races get better treatment. I think it's true what Ernie said, that the azn players do tend to arrive more skilled and "better" than some 19 year old Cuban. However, even with that rationalization it doesn't help the perception that Latinos are being thrown into the United States with little support from the company in adapting to our culture.
I think a few years ago David Wright and Billy Wagner were getting pissed that they were always the ones getting interviewed because they spoke English (this was when they were blowing their huge lead and collapsed) while Pedro and Delgado and Reyes were left alone.
[Edited on August 2, 2010 at 3:57 PM. Reason : Thanks Slave, glad I'm on your radar.] 8/2/2010 3:51:10 PM |
NyM410 J-E-T-S 50085 Posts user info edit post |
That was actually in 2008 and it was really just Wagner... it was more because Delgado would always leave early not that they wouldn't ask him questions. Delgado spoke better English than half of the white guys on that team. Beltran too. Then Delgado hit like 87 HRs in the second half and everyone forgot about it.
Also, somewhat related, I just saw a twitter thing that said Delgado has a few major league offers, White Sox among them.
[Edited on August 2, 2010 at 3:55 PM. Reason : minor-league offers, not major league... oops] 8/2/2010 3:53:10 PM |
Madman All American 3412 Posts user info edit post |
My bad.. I was thinking of 07 and Lo Duca.
Quote : | "Lo Duca said he was tired of having to speak to reporters every day and suggested that they be more resourceful in seeking out the Spanish-speaking players, who, he said, “speak English, believe me.” ..." |
http://bats.blogs.nytimes.com/2007/06/29/the-lo-duca-imbroglio/8/2/2010 3:55:36 PM |
NyM410 J-E-T-S 50085 Posts user info edit post |
Oh, yeah... I probably don't remember that because he was a huge douche and had consistent diarrhea of the mouth. 8/2/2010 3:56:29 PM |
Slave Famous Become Wrath 34079 Posts user info edit post |
I like how Madman only users capitalization and punctuation in his big boy serious posts.
And Tampa should sign Delgado...their DH for the last two games has been John Jano and Willy Aybar. 8/2/2010 3:56:37 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148441 Posts user info edit post |
funny they have Jaso playing DH...and batting first
more like designated on baser amirite 8/2/2010 3:58:05 PM |
Slave Famous Become Wrath 34079 Posts user info edit post |
8/2/2010 4:00:21 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148441 Posts user info edit post |
at least i spelled his last name right ya prick 8/2/2010 4:01:58 PM |
Slave Famous Become Wrath 34079 Posts user info edit post |
Takes a lot of specialized training to sit on the bench while the rest of your team plays the field. 8/2/2010 4:02:18 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148441 Posts user info edit post |
A-ROD IS AT BAT
i swear i've probably watched like 30 A-Rod at bats in the last week just because they show all of them 8/2/2010 8:08:40 PM |
Ernie All American 45943 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Thanks Slave, glad I'm on your radar." |
I know this thread is about baseball and not faggotry
but lol at this coming from Madman, who constantly is trying to call out me and Slave
We see you dude8/2/2010 8:32:07 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148441 Posts user info edit post |
so Youkilis left the game early with a jammed finger...now Carlos Santana is down on the ground about to be taken off the fieldin a stretcher
unlucky game for both teams 8/2/2010 9:30:07 PM |
ncstatetke All American 41128 Posts user info edit post |
legs aren't supposed to bend that way! 8/2/2010 9:36:37 PM |
DROD900 All American 24658 Posts user info edit post |
thats a damn shame, Santana better be alright. I already hate the red sox more than any other team in baseball, if our #1 prospect has any sort of career threatening due to their team, my hatred will exceed to dangerous levels 8/2/2010 10:16:33 PM |
Rat Soup All American 7669 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "more like designated on baser amirite" |
unless you play for joe torre or dusty baker8/3/2010 12:00:32 AM |
Slave Famous Become Wrath 34079 Posts user info edit post |
The NL is weak and feeble
Average
1. Joey Votto, CIN .322 2. Carlos Gonzalez, COL .320 3. Placido Polanco, PHI .317 4. Rafael Furcal, LAD .316 5. Martin Prado, ATL .315
1. Josh Hamilton, TEX .362 2. Miguel Cabrera, DET .348 3. Justin Morneau, MIN .345 4. Adrian Beltre, BOS .336 5. Delmon Young, MIN .334
RBI
1. Ryan Howard, PHI 81 2. David Wright, NYM 77 3. Albert Pujols, STL 75 4. Corey Hart, MIL 73 5. Joey Votto, CIN 72
1. Miguel Cabrera, DET 93 2. Alex Rodriguez, NYY 85 3. Vladimir Guerrero, TEX 85 4. Jose Bautista, TOR 82 5. Delmon Young, MIN 81 8/3/2010 3:44:19 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148441 Posts user info edit post |
[old]
i'm still literally in shock that the NL won the AS game] 8/3/2010 3:46:52 PM |
Slave Famous Become Wrath 34079 Posts user info edit post |
That's silly
The Royals beat the Yankees one out of three 8/3/2010 3:48:22 PM |
Madman All American 3412 Posts user info edit post |
The AL and NL West suck with the exception of the Texas Rangers. 8/3/2010 3:51:38 PM |
rflong All American 11472 Posts user info edit post |
The AL has the better hitters in their league, but the NL has the best starting pitching now. Halladay, Santana, Ubaldo, Lincecum, Hudson, Carpenter, Wainwright, Josh Johnson, Strasburg, etc. The AL cannot match that and that is why the NL won the All Star game. I'll still take dominating pitching over big bats any day of the week. 8/3/2010 3:55:18 PM |
Slave Famous Become Wrath 34079 Posts user info edit post |
True, but the best two teams in the AL (NY and TB) have better 4 man starting rotations than any NL contender, which is why they'll probably win the World Series despite not getting home field
[Edited on August 3, 2010 at 3:57 PM. Reason : Maybe SF is on par with them, but they have no offense whatsoever] 8/3/2010 3:57:06 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148441 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I'll still take dominating pitching over big bats any day of the week." |
and that will win you an all star game, when you are able to pitch Ubaldo, JJ, etc
no real NL teams can pull anything like that in the playoffs...not even St Louis
Quote : | "The AL and NL West suck with the exception of the Texas Rangers." |
do what? The AL West sucks except for Texas
but the NL West has the two best records in the NL8/3/2010 4:07:43 PM |
hey now Indianapolis Jones 14975 Posts user info edit post |
I'm a baseball fanatic and National League homer (no DH, more complex/tougher to manage), but it's hard to dispute the AL's dominance. 8/3/2010 4:17:58 PM |
Ernie All American 45943 Posts user info edit post |
Woah the AL has more offense? Just like the last 30 years! Crazy! 8/3/2010 4:22:58 PM |
Slave Famous Become Wrath 34079 Posts user info edit post |
Its a Tuesday in August
Sue me for posting something less than scintillating 8/3/2010 4:23:59 PM |
Madman All American 3412 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "but the NL West has the two best records in the NL" |
I went back and looked; you're right. Also, the Diamondbacks may lose 100 games this year.8/3/2010 4:28:18 PM |
NyM410 J-E-T-S 50085 Posts user info edit post |
Pretty obvious the two Central's are the worst two divisions in baseball. 8/3/2010 4:43:21 PM |
Slave Famous Become Wrath 34079 Posts user info edit post |
Tree representing his boys at Citi earlier this year
8/3/2010 4:45:20 PM |
hey now Indianapolis Jones 14975 Posts user info edit post |
^^ I would take the AL Central over the AL West. No doubt the NL Central is bad.
[Edited on August 3, 2010 at 4:46 PM. Reason : g] 8/3/2010 4:45:33 PM |
Madman All American 3412 Posts user info edit post |
Games Above 0.500 for Top 2 Teams in Each Division (Combined) AL WEST - 18 AL CENTRAL - 28 AL EAST - 54 NL WEST - 39 NL CENTRAL - 25 NL EAST - 24
Games Below 0.500 for Bottom 2 Teams in Each Division (Combined) AL WEST - 27 AL CENTRAL - 32 AL EAST - 37 NL WEST - 26 NL CENTRAL - 47 NL EAST - 12 8/3/2010 4:58:20 PM |