^Yes. He played only 5 games in his true freshman season (Herb's last year) before getting injured. he average 2.8 ppg in those 5 games. In the next season, his redshirt freshman year (Lowe's first season), he averaged 16.8 ppg.

2/5/2011 1:47:55 AM

If he could hit even 70% of his free throws, we would probably all be singing a different tune.

For a freshman, he really is doing very well.

Keep in mind that for some big men, its hard to not look "lazy" on the court.

I remember watching videos of myself playing bball, where I was making tireless efforts to defend quicker players and move into the right spots, but on video it looked lazy and slow ... just so happens that I was simply slow, but not lazy, about getting there ...

The whining stuff is an easy fix. Watching him in the UNC game, he did look less yappy and like he was making an effort to not whine about things that were legitimate no calls.

2/5/2011 8:46:43 AM

if leslie shot free throws like hansbrough could, he'd be averaging 15 pts minimum

2/5/2011 9:32:01 AM

Hansbrough was a crap FT shooter at the start of his career.

2/5/2011 10:34:40 AM

knock it off

[Edited on February 5, 2011 at 10:56 AM. Reason : nym]

can I edit an edited post?

[Edited on February 5, 2011 at 10:57 AM. Reason : c]

apparently I can

[Edited on February 5, 2011 at 10:57 AM. Reason : f]

2/5/2011 10:55:47 AM

^^74% his freshman year is solid for a big man...as much as i hate him.

2/5/2011 11:45:54 AM

Yeah I mean the first part of his first year. I remember him getting much better after the first couple of months, when he wasn't a very good FT shooter.

[Edited on February 5, 2011 at 12:00 PM. Reason : Maybe I'm wrong though, I just seem to remember one of those obnoxious ESPN specials about it]

2/5/2011 11:58:53 AM

hansbrough was 74% as a freshman ...high 70s as a soph...and 80s as a junior and senior...and he broke records for most free throw attempts...that made him so tough to beat

still hate him though

[Edited on February 5, 2011 at 1:07 PM. Reason : d]

2/5/2011 1:06:59 PM

It wasn't all his free throws that made him hard to beat, it was his will.

2/5/2011 1:08:25 PM

You can't double team his WILL

2/5/2011 3:06:58 PM

Rumor from Austin at PackPride via Twitter that Leslie has been suspended indefinitely.

2/5/2011 3:16:07 PM

I also saw that as part of that rumor, Smith and Harrow are also out... sheesh, i hope it's bs, b/c if its true, this game could be uglier than Wisconsin.

[Edited on February 5, 2011 at 3:19 PM. Reason : ]

2/5/2011 3:18:26 PM

Haha...holy shit could this get any worse?

2/5/2011 3:28:40 PM

If true...that is some real NC State shit.

[Edited on February 5, 2011 at 3:35 PM. Reason : At this point, all you can do is laugh at this shit.]

2/5/2011 3:35:17 PM

His status is confirmed by sports insights

2/5 3:11P CJ Leslie F Undisclosed Doubtful is doubtful Saturday (2/5) at Duke

2/5/2011 3:38:00 PM

Have to wonder if that knucklehead who started the CJL rumor this morning on here was on to something.

This program just needs to be aborted and restarted...

2/5/2011 3:45:06 PM

you gonna apologize to him for locking his thread?

2/5/2011 3:46:53 PM

Nope, still was unnecessary given this thread and an unsubstantiated negative rumor about our program...

Quote :

"You might know if NyM hadn't locked and deleted the thread on that very subject"

LOLLERS -- yeah, every thread with some random saying his Mom heard someone at WRAL saying something about CJL should be made!

CJL is not playing today likely. That is the only fact anyone knows.

[Edited on February 5, 2011 at 3:54 PM. Reason : x]

2/5/2011 3:48:33 PM

http://packinsider.com/2011/02/game-preview-state-looks-to-take-on-duke-with-harrow-without-leslie/

Leslie is not playing. Why?

2/5/2011 3:48:49 PM

You might know if NyM hadn't locked and deleted the thread on that very subject

[Edited on February 5, 2011 at 3:53 PM. Reason : ^^ don't be that guy]

2/5/2011 3:52:57 PM

Austin's latest tweet:

Quote :

"cjl officially out today - suspended for violation of team rules"

2/5/2011 4:04:06 PM

can we at least get a cliff notes version of what the deleted thread said?

2/5/2011 4:07:32 PM

Quote :

"an unsubstantiated negative rumor about our program..."

Quote :

"This program just needs to be aborted and restarted..."

Quote :

"..."

NYM FTL

[Edited on February 5, 2011 at 4:36 PM. Reason : the big DANDY VANDY]

2/5/2011 4:36:07 PM

Locking it because this one already existed is fine, locking it because of negative comments about State is gay

2/5/2011 4:37:13 PM

You people suck.

If I left it open everyone would be pissed off at me anyway, so I don't really care. IF that is, in fact, what is going on here, then I suppose I'll say that ^^ were right. But until then...

[Edited on February 5, 2011 at 4:38 PM. Reason : ^ tough shit -- it was unsubstantiated and out of nowhere]

2/5/2011 4:37:43 PM

we are state fans. this isnt out of nowhere.

2/5/2011 4:41:57 PM

.

[Edited on February 5, 2011 at 4:48 PM. Reason : .]

2/5/2011 4:46:54 PM

sounds like he took money to me.

wouldnt surprise me at all, he's obviously got a lot of handlers.

Who knew this kid signing would end up being such a nightmare for us both on and off the court

2/5/2011 4:48:43 PM

what makes you think he took money?

was that actually part of the reason he was suspended, or did you make that up

2/5/2011 4:55:32 PM

Quote :

"You people suck. If I left it open everyone would be pissed off at me anyway, so I don't really care. IF that is, in fact, what is going on here, then I suppose I'll say that ^^ were right. But until then... [Edited on February 5, 2011 at 4:38 PM. Reason : ^ tough shit -- it was unsubstantiated and out of nowhere]"

are you for real?


Come on dude, he dropped a rumor he heard that would've been proven true or false almost immediately, and you deleted the thread. Unsubstantiated or not, people don't always drop Marvin Austin-style twitter hints about their infractions, and deleting the thread was the wrong thing to do.


You can man up and admit you were wrong, or you can continue your bluster and let every ST poster stop taking you seriously.

2/5/2011 4:58:38 PM

woahwoahwoah

What's going on here guys

2/5/2011 5:03:20 PM

a wolfweb discussion

2/5/2011 5:04:42 PM

via twitter: "Some details on the Leslie situation. Lowe was going to suspend him following Clemson but gave him another chance. He blew it."

2/5/2011 5:05:37 PM

NyM410 credibility watch exposed

2/5/2011 5:06:50 PM

C.J. Leslie Early Entry Bad Decision-o-meter update

2/5/2011 5:07:12 PM

I gotta be honest, I don't care who takes me serious. I'm more than willing to listen to people when they have a problem with the way I treat Sports Talk. I think I've proven that when people PM me.

I didn't think it was necessary to have a thread with a rumor that someones friends Mom heard something from WRAL with absolutely zero basis in fact. I don't even what I could be wrong about?

I already told the guy who started that I'd say he was right with his source if it turns out true.

Anyway, back on topic -- has anyone heard anything legit as to why Leslie is suspended?

2/5/2011 5:08:17 PM

Quote :

"Next person making a smartass remark about Lowe's parenting skills can get 2 months off."

lol

2/5/2011 5:10:58 PM

well what was the rumor stated in the deleted thread? That he took money?

[Edited on February 5, 2011 at 5:12 PM. Reason : .]

2/5/2011 5:11:50 PM

Checked packpride thread, saw numerous posts calling for Bob Knight, closed packpride thread

2/5/2011 5:15:59 PM

haha people asking for bob knight are definitely beyond ridiculous

2/5/2011 5:18:38 PM

read on another board that they think it's for point-shaving

lolncstate

2/5/2011 5:45:56 PM

He probably didnt go to class.

Lowe has suspended people before for the same thing.

I doubt CJ went, considering he knows he is gone after this year..whether its to the NBA or Europe.

2/5/2011 5:46:25 PM

Right now it's a 1 game suspension according to Lowe

2/5/2011 5:55:08 PM

JT3, do you really think Leslie is going to leave after this year? His draft stock has dropped a LOT, and there is a chance of a lockout. I really doubt a player like him will go to Europe.

2/5/2011 5:56:35 PM

Quote :

"read on another board that they think it's for point-shaving"

strange, i read that people on another board think it was for accepting a jet for an autograph

2/5/2011 6:07:16 PM

nick, calm the fuck down dude. if you even saw the thread you'd know why NyM deleted it. it was some BS heard from a friend of a guy who knows a lady that works at WRAL crap.

this ain't IC dawg. bring a source for a real thread or just post in the one that we already have.

2/5/2011 6:16:07 PM

^ Wop

2/5/2011 6:17:09 PM

I know if he isnt going to class he probably doesnt care about playing next year.

If its one game, sounds a lot like the sidney lowe sit em cuz they missed class deal.


the teachers tell them if the players EVER miss a class. thats my bet.

2/5/2011 6:45:44 PM

I see him walking to class every tuesday and thursday so he did something else.

2/5/2011 6:56:07 PM

^ Tell him to quit being such a little bitch and play like he has a brain.

2/5/2011 6:59:45 PM