She's got the munchies for a California Cheeseburger!

11/9/2011 12:33:27 PM

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"viable or not this lynchfest aint cool"

i'm not sure what "lynchfest" you're referring to...there is strong indication that herman cain acted inappropriately on multiple occasions...i'm not saying he did or didn't, but this was from long before he was a republican presidential candidate and so isn't a conspiracy (or if it is, it's a very well-planned and thought-out one)

he has responded poorly to the accusations from the beginning...he's a complete idiot for thinking this would never be discovered

and if he's that dumb, he shouldn't be a president

11/9/2011 1:09:41 PM

that strong indication being what these women said?

11/9/2011 1:23:00 PM

Or the fact that the NRA investigation cleared him of their accusations?

11/9/2011 1:23:44 PM

i have a strong indication that that stripper was raped by those duke boys because she said it happened

...get the fuck outta here

[Edited on November 9, 2011 at 1:25 PM. Reason : d]

11/9/2011 1:24:26 PM

http://hermancainpac.com/2011/11/herman-cain-accuser-karen-kraushaar-works-for-obama-and-she%E2%80%99s-ugly/

For real? This is your PAC's official statement?

11/9/2011 1:26:07 PM

I cannot confirm or deny the political assault on Herman Cain.


I can confirm that these woman COULD HAVE come forward at ANY time in the last 8-15 years, but they conveniently chose to come out within the one year he's running for president.


Do you know what I'm saying? It wasn't that important if they didn't come sooner.


(Can someone tell me the actual years of the occurrences to put me on the money?)

[Edited on November 9, 2011 at 1:27 PM. Reason : .]

11/9/2011 1:27:06 PM

Yeah, I agree that the article is pretty uncalled for. Not to say other politicians don't resort to things that are just as terrible, but Cain should have just stayed 'above the fray' on this one.

[Edited on November 9, 2011 at 2:14 PM. Reason : Nevermind]

11/9/2011 2:13:06 PM

plenty of you boneheads probably think paying off people for sexually harassing them is some sort of fair trade anyway

11/9/2011 2:39:32 PM

well the 'victims' thought it was...

11/9/2011 2:40:05 PM

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"I can confirm that these woman COULD HAVE come forward at ANY time in the last 8-15 years, but they conveniently chose to come out within the one year he's running for president"

well i mean, nobody really calls national press conferences when some schmuck manager at their job makes a pass at them just in case the schmuck runs for president 10 years later

it could very well end up being some kind of fabricated political hit, but Cain is sure acting like a fool in his responses to the allegations. he's an amateur and there's no way he's gonna get elected either way. furthermore, i'm sure the democrats would LOVE to see Cain stay in the spotlight as long as possible cus it prolongs the repub vs repub battles further into election season

[Edited on November 9, 2011 at 2:48 PM. Reason : .]

11/9/2011 2:44:49 PM

The double standard the mainstream media applies to scandal has never been more apparent in my lifetime.

11/9/2011 2:46:08 PM

It is worth invoking Dominique Strauss-Kahn here.

That said, it's not like he was looking like a viable candidate prior to these allegations. He's on the same intellectual plane as Michelle Bachmann and Sarah Palin.

11/9/2011 2:47:48 PM

^ not to mention Julian Assange

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"He's on the same intellectual plane as Michelle Bachmann and Sarah Palin"

bingo. i have no idea what possibly made this guy think he could go from restaurant executive to president of the USA

[Edited on November 9, 2011 at 2:51 PM. Reason : .]

11/9/2011 2:50:13 PM

6^really that's all these saintly women want is a little settlement loot and a book deal

The women that aren't speaking are waiting on the highest bidder

They're all most likely lying or really taking advantage of our harassment policies in companies

I'm sure you have a job so you know that he doesn't run these harassment trainings to deter legit harassment and sexual assaults, but to minimize fodder for suit happy creatures which is a known fact be it workplace harassment or interview process

The company has to protect itself from the opportunities that company policy has allowed to feel "offended" if a man or woman tells someone they're cute, it's for ^no other reason we all know what real misconduct is companies have to train employees on the loopholes exploited by vermin such as these bittiessnd their immoral lawyers

[Edited on November 9, 2011 at 2:54 PM. Reason : Gb]

11/9/2011 2:53:36 PM

a woman doesn't have to be "saintly" to be harassed or assaulted

11/9/2011 2:54:04 PM

^no shit and a whore can legitimately be harassed whats your point

11/9/2011 2:56:07 PM

seriously you think the problem is these women springing "gotcha" moments onto superiors that use their authority to make inappropriate sexual advances

and not a problem with the men making the advances

the fact that some of these scum bags get shut down is more of a moral outrage to you than millions of women being forced to put up with this behavior daily

[Edited on November 9, 2011 at 2:56 PM. Reason : .]

11/9/2011 2:56:11 PM

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"The double standard the mainstream media applies to scandal has never been more apparent in my lifetime."

lolwut

11/9/2011 2:58:47 PM

yes i think it is a potential problem

another problem is that the media goes into such a frenzy about it it becomes more worthwhile for women to "come forth" either anonymously or as a complete horse and pony show and get more coverage

if you dont think women and men lie youre a complete fucking idiot, but youre a sheep that eats what the 4th branch feeds you.

i want to see a trial and some proof, oh there will be no trial or proof because no charges were filed and the incidents were already mediated. Its just a dog pile of opportunistic women that want to be Gennifer Flowers

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"the fact that some of these scum bags get shut down is more of a moral outrage to you than millions of women being forced to put up with this behavior daily "

LOL its an outrage if people that arent scumbags get shut down, kinda like the death penalty you know? im sure you supported troy davis, women and men that put up with this crap daily rectify the situation by filing complaints in a timely manner and not because someone tells them 'they look nice today"

[Edited on November 9, 2011 at 3:04 PM. Reason : f]

11/9/2011 3:01:43 PM

i love it when mcdanger inserts his subpar IQ into threads outside the soapbox.

get back in your cage leyla, dont make me get the hose.

[Edited on November 9, 2011 at 3:17 PM. Reason : -]

11/9/2011 3:15:31 PM

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"LOL its an outrage if people that arent scumbags get shut down, kinda like the death penalty you know? im sure you supported troy davis, women and men that put up with this crap daily rectify the situation by filing complaints in a timely manner and not because someone tells them 'they look nice today" "

look dude nobody saying innocent people need to get strung up here, but your recourse to "she's lying" is predictable misogynist bullshit mixed with political favoritism

11/9/2011 3:16:53 PM

very presidential of guy to post this on his PAC site:
"Herman Cain Accuser Karen Kraushaar works for Obama and she’s ugly
Ew, gross! Who the hell does this ugly b1tch think she’s fooling?"

not only is he a pig but he is a colossal douche

11/9/2011 3:17:05 PM

...our current president acts mature?

[Edited on November 9, 2011 at 3:18 PM. Reason : -]

11/9/2011 3:17:59 PM

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"our current president acts mature?"

i get that you don't like him...but how is he immature?

11/9/2011 3:21:46 PM

more like yowillololololololol

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"...our current president acts mature?"

im sorry, when did our POTUS call any woman an ugly bitch

is this really how his staff will handle a crisis? can you imagine that if he reacts this retarded for something like this how he and staff will react to a real crisis?

[Edited on November 9, 2011 at 3:39 PM. Reason : sdf]

11/9/2011 3:37:43 PM

uh his open mic outburst on benjamin netanyahu?

[Edited on November 9, 2011 at 3:50 PM. Reason : again youre forgetting cain isnt president- a big problem with the above blowjob analogy]

11/9/2011 3:48:03 PM

This seems like one of the most ugly and brutal run ups to a presidential race that can I remember. Mud slinging like no tomorrow, giving shit ton of media time to horrible candidates like Bachmann, Perry, and Trump in order to eliminate good candidates like Johnson, now the political hit on Cain and extensive media coverage - not to mention his dumb ass PR reactions. Then you have the votes getting moved several months up in the primaries that will fuck with getting a good candidate on the ballot...damn shame that this is our political system now.

in addition to Cain ever being a top candidate because he's likeable...oh wait that's how Obama got here

[Edited on November 9, 2011 at 3:54 PM. Reason : lkj]

11/9/2011 3:51:08 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BT_CCbn8o7I

11/10/2011 6:12:26 PM

LOL ... great video

11/10/2011 6:33:57 PM

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"can you imagine that if he reacts this retarded for something like this how he and staff will react to a real crisis? "

yeah man.

imagine if all these businesses started acting really irresponsible with their money and he decided to fork over TRILLIONS of tax dollars in the form of bailouts with very little oversight..... amIrite?

11/10/2011 6:38:34 PM

Fuck all this noise. If you can get rich in America for running for president when you're woefully unqualified, then you should also be able to get rich for suing that same person for sexual harassment.

11/10/2011 6:51:27 PM

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"im sorry, when did our POTUS call any woman an ugly bitch is this really how his staff will handle a crisis? can you imagine that if he reacts this retarded for something like this how he and staff will react to a real crisis? "

and, btw, gunzz... it appears that Cain story was false.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2011/11/09/1034735/-Is-the-HermanCainPaccom-site-legit-or-a-fake?via=recent

it's a sham site... and that's coming from Daily Kos, fwiw.

11/10/2011 7:15:45 PM

Looks inconclusive to me

11/10/2011 7:36:43 PM

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"THIS...herman cain is laughable as a viable candidate, sexual harassment allegations aside "

He's very popular on the conservative side.

It SHOULD be laughable that he's a viable candidate.

11/10/2011 7:43:05 PM

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"wharrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrgarbl. teehee, it's all over me!"

this made me LOL at scary intervals.

11/10/2011 8:04:20 PM

By msnbc.com's Michael O'Brien

Herman Cain suffered his own memory lapse in response to a question about Libya just days after Rick Perry's campaign tumbled following Perry's debate misstep.

Cain struggled for an answer when asked by the editorial board of the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel whether he agreed with President Obama's approach toward Libya.

Cain said:

OK, Libya. [Pause] President Obama supported the uprising, correct? President Obama called for the removal of Khaddhafy. I just wanted to make sure we're talking about the same thing before I say, 'Yes, I agreed' or 'No I didn't agree.' I do not agree with the way he handled it for the following reason -- nope, that's a different one. [pause] I gotta go back and see. I got all this stuff twirling around in my head. Specifically, what are you asking me that I agree or not disagree with Obama?

Cain had previously criticized Obama's handling of the uprising in Libya in a debate this spring. Cain accused the administration of lacking clear objectives in Libya -- or, for that matter, Syria -- and called for the U.S. to develop a foreign policy strategy for each nation on earth.

The moment, though, invites parallels with Perry's moment of forgetfulness during last week's presidential debate. Perry struggled to remember the identity of the third federal agency he would eliminate.

Obama had weathered criticism from some GOP presidential contenders at the time for having authorized U.S. military airstrikes to aid the uprising against Kaddhafy's regime. Kaddhafy was captured and killed last month in Libya.

Cain has previously said that he didn't feel the need to master every detail of foreign policy issues, a sentiment he reiterated in his interview with the Journal-Sentinel, which was conducted on the record for about 30 minutes this morning.

I'm a much more deliberate decision-maker. It's a point that I keep coming back to. Some people want to say, 'Well, as president, you're supposed to know everything.' No you don't. I believe in having all the information, as much of it as I possibly can, rather than making a decision or making a statement about whether I totally agree or didn't agree, when I wasn't privy to the entire situation. There might be some things there that might have caused me to feel differently. So I'm not trying to hedge on the questions, it's just that that's my nature as a businessman -- I need to know the facts, as much as possible, I need to hear all the alternatives...I would want to hear all those views, look at the information, then I make the decision as the commander in chief.

This isn't the first time Cain has risked looking dismissive on foreign policy issues, either. He said, for instance, that he didn't feel the need to known the name of the president of Uzbekistan.

"I’m ready for the ‘gotcha’ questions and they’re already starting to come. And when they ask me who is the president of Ubeki-beki-beki-beki-stan-stan I’m going to say, you know, I don’t know. Do you know?" he asked in an interview with the Christian Broadcasting Network last month.


____________________________________________

Hoops Malone is Herman Cain exposed?

11/14/2011 8:13:55 PM

[Edited on November 14, 2011 at 8:48 PM. Reason : ...]

11/14/2011 8:44:55 PM

I'm by no means here to defend his gaffes, but everybody does realize the Ubeki-beki-beki-stan-stan thing was a joke, right?

11/14/2011 8:57:50 PM

yes

11/14/2011 9:04:52 PM

^^^^ So, what's your point? You want a POTUS that has a knee jerk reaction to everything? Looks like Cain was just covering himself, because he was asked if he agreed with Obama. The media could spin his answer no matter what he says there...

11/14/2011 9:18:32 PM

Ideally he wouldn't need to have a knee-jerk reaction because he would have given at least a minimum amount of thought about Libya at some point in time before the question was asked. Perhaps in preparation for a debate or something like that.

11/14/2011 9:23:04 PM

Not sure what he can say, Obama undoubtedly had a whole lot more information that Cain does regarding Libya and all foreign affairs. Cain just isn't being your typical politician and spouting off on something he doesn't have a lot of information on

11/14/2011 9:28:57 PM

If you're running for president I think maybe it's kind of your job to get that information. Hindsight is fine for the purposes of this question.

11/14/2011 10:12:02 PM

i hope he knows that uzbekistan is a country :-/

11/14/2011 10:14:50 PM

So because he's running for President he has the right to know all of the classified information that Obama does?

Anyways, good answer from Cain

11/14/2011 10:18:16 PM

so by your logic no one running for president should have thoughtful answers to foreign policy questions?

11/14/2011 10:21:35 PM

i don't think that you have to have access to all of the classified information that the president does to have an informed position about our engagement in Libya

11/14/2011 10:23:16 PM

I assume all of Herman Cain's responses to questions go something like:

"NINE NINE NINE NINE NINE NINE NINE"

11/14/2011 10:25:13 PM

Really don't see what classified information has to do with anything? It's not classified that Obama didn't consult Congress, for example. It's not classified that Obama said any action in Libya would last a few days.

Besides that, you would never hear Romney or Paul mumble that long and then say "uhh, wait, that's a different one..." and Paul, at least, is not a typical politician.

11/14/2011 10:25:29 PM