^^^^^ read the grand jury report. Page 7

11/10/2011 12:16:23 PM

do we think Sandusky offs himself while out on bail?

11/10/2011 12:24:05 PM

Yes. He will die with the same "cancer" whichard died from

11/10/2011 12:26:29 PM

^^ if there's "wealthy donors" that are involved as has been rumored, there's going to be a lot of pressure one way or another from these men or men they hire for Sandusky to never talk

[Edited on November 10, 2011 at 12:30 PM. Reason : /]

11/10/2011 12:30:09 PM

Hopefully a father of one of the victims shows up with a tire iron if he's out in public. Or the prison guards leave him with the general prison population and then go for a long lunch break.

11/10/2011 12:34:39 PM

^ something like this?



[Edited on November 10, 2011 at 12:45 PM. Reason : /]

11/10/2011 12:44:52 PM

jesus. 20 times on that one kid? fry the sucker if he's guilty

11/10/2011 1:13:02 PM

I think the media needs to show a little more of the guy who actually did this and not the coach who apparently was (at least) partly involved in the cover-up.

11/10/2011 1:20:50 PM

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/933077-penn-state-scandal-why-ncaa-should-consider-the-death-penalty-for-psu

Honestly, having the football program suspended for a year or two might be a merciful thing to do. It'd give the university a chance to regroup, restructure the program, and move forward.

But that'd be a whopper of a punishment. I'm not even sure if the NCAA should be sticking its nose in here, at least not until the legal system is done maneuvering.

11/10/2011 1:39:39 PM

for this page:

http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2011/11/10/rumor-sandusky-pimped-out-young-boys-to-rich-donors/

[Edited on November 10, 2011 at 1:43 PM. Reason : w]

11/10/2011 1:41:26 PM

NCAA president interview with ESPN: http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=7216163&categoryid=2564308

11/10/2011 1:41:33 PM

Sorry, didn't know it was on page 7 :/ hate hate hate

11/10/2011 1:53:41 PM

Quote :

"But that'd be a whopper of a punishment. I'm not even sure if the NCAA should be sticking its nose in here, at least not until the legal system is done maneuvering."

Agreed. no need to punish student athletes for this and really nothing falls under the NCAA's "jurisdiction"

11/10/2011 2:17:01 PM

The NCAA should get involved.

If ever there was a situation that warranted "lack of institutional control", this is it.

11/10/2011 2:27:43 PM

Quote :

"I think the media needs to show a little more of the guy who actually did this and not the coach who apparently was (at least) partly involved in the cover-up."

the coach isn't just "some coach" though

11/10/2011 2:29:50 PM

Sam, we might be able to forgive you... if you FDT

11/10/2011 2:33:26 PM

^ that's at least one order of magnitude more annoying than her post, which was really annoying.

11/10/2011 2:47:44 PM

Quote :

"The NCAA should get involved."

They don't care if you do bad things to other people.

They only care if players get illegal benefits, like cream cheese on their bagels.

11/10/2011 2:47:59 PM

jurisdiction has never really been a word in the NCAA's working vocabulary.

11/10/2011 2:51:00 PM

it's the purview of the court, not the NCAA. real laws were broken, not NCAA rules.

11/10/2011 3:14:38 PM

That wouldn't preclude the NCAA from taking action

Actually, it would encourage them

11/10/2011 3:15:32 PM

law enforcement gets dibs on pecking order

kinda like how plaxico and vick did their jail sentences before the nfl came up with their suspensions

11/10/2011 3:17:38 PM

If the Penn State football program is incarcerated, you might have a point.

11/10/2011 3:19:11 PM

Gold and Ovies deserve a slow clap after that first segment

11/10/2011 3:19:49 PM

I guess I was just saying its not like Sandusky is going to get an NCAA ban from coaching again, if its not necessary

11/10/2011 3:20:56 PM

Quote :

"penn-state-scandal-why-ncaa-should-consider-the-death-penalty-for-psu"

That doesn't mean that all members of the program are going face capital punishment, ya know

11/10/2011 3:21:43 PM

yeah, i didnt even see which link that quote was in reference to

i just doubt the NCAA does anything until at least the offseason

they certainly want Penn State's bowl game TV revenue and ticket sales

11/10/2011 3:23:00 PM

DoeoJ, i think the tongue-in-cheek point i and others are making is that the NCAA regularly considers itself outside the scope of, and sometimes superseding the courts, both in authority and jurisdiction. we get that it's not actually their issue to adjudicate.

11/10/2011 3:24:48 PM

Quote :

"Gold and Ovies deserve a slow clap after that first segment"

what'd they say?

Quote :

"i just doubt the NCAA does anything until at least the offseason they certainly want Penn State's bowl game TV revenue and ticket sales"

why? it's not like they receive any of either

I hope Penn State announces they're just not doing a bowl game. I think this derails their Rose Bowl run. How if you're a player can you have your head screwed on straight and focus on Nebraska with all this stuff? they're 2 games up in their division to win it and go to the inaugural Big 10 title game

11/10/2011 3:28:31 PM

haha well i certainly understand that. ncaa is wonky.

11/10/2011 3:29:24 PM

^^ there is absolutely nothing the NCAA can do

find the rule in the NCAA rulebook that states it's against NCAA rules to molest children

it isn't in there

[Edited on November 10, 2011 at 3:31 PM. Reason : that's and its asinine to say that Sandusky deserves to be talked about more than JoePa]]

11/10/2011 3:30:29 PM

^^^you're right, but the sugar bowl people pressured the ncaa into allowing tOSU to play their game last year amidst their scandal

different circumstances, i just see this lasting a long time

11/10/2011 3:31:05 PM

^ very different circumstances, this is far more serious than Ohio State

part of it is the NCAA are a weak administrator, what is it everyone always say about the future of college sports? "the big schools will someday leave the NCAA and form their own org"; the NCAA have a lot of faults - I don't understand how they let crap like Auburn last year occur, they have no clear guidelines to explain one punishment to the next - but like you say with the Sugar Bowl, there's so much money for the big universities now that if the NCAA play bad cop they'll get told to "fuck off" eventually and the big schools will leave

who is the NCAA? it's all the university presidents, people like Graham Spanier who was just forced to resign, university presidents are going to look out for their university before they look out for the sanctity of college sports or in this case even the welfare of 10-year-old kids

[Edited on November 10, 2011 at 3:47 PM. Reason : /]

11/10/2011 3:37:16 PM

http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2011/10/the-shame-of-college-sports/8643/

its so long, but it seems really well researched.

11/10/2011 3:45:28 PM

wonder how many of the children that he fostered were hurt

11/10/2011 4:19:59 PM

oh wow

http://n.pr/tqcc80

urban meyer.....

11/10/2011 4:24:03 PM

So the stress of coaching at Florida was too much, and people are thinking that the stress of regaining PSU's respectability won't be too much?

Seriously, he's obviously a good coach but if he comes back to full time coaching I'd be worried about it killing him.

11/10/2011 4:27:43 PM

No way.

Either Bradley keeps it for now, or they hire a lower-tier/no-name coach to hold the reins for a year or so.

11/10/2011 4:28:47 PM

i doubt the PSU admin feels like paying $urbanmeyer to anyone in the athletic department right now

my guess is that they'll go with someone cheap and respectable, who holds academics in the highest regard

someone like everett withers

11/10/2011 4:36:13 PM

Withers would be good. His teams study so hard they forget to score.

11/10/2011 4:38:05 PM

pshtt...remember unc is getting meyer

11/10/2011 4:49:29 PM

UNC is getting Neuheisel, and yes I have no basis for that whatsoever and completely made it up.

I'd be surprised if they don't just keep Bradley, even if the team tanks the rest of the season (seriously, how could they possibly get mentally prepared to finish this season with everything that's happened).

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11/10/2011 4:52:54 PM

nevermind.

[Edited on November 10, 2011 at 5:13 PM. Reason : .]

11/10/2011 5:13:14 PM

They just showed a clip of Tom Bradley, the new interim coach, on the national news. It was a fairly short clip but he was basically saying that he was keeping Mike McQueary on staff and allowing him to coach on Saturday.

They just don't get it. They need to clean house.

[Edited on November 10, 2011 at 6:52 PM. Reason : -]

11/10/2011 6:51:19 PM

Quote :

"This Matt Millen rant on SC is hilarious, it's like an SNL skit. He's talking 100% in platitudes without actually saying anything -- YOU KNOW HOW I FEEL, THIS IS AMERICA LAST TIME I CHECKED -- and then just starts crying. "

It's impossible to watch this and not imagine Millen as that guy in the back of that class who gets called on unexpectedly and completely bullshits everyone for 12 minutes

11/10/2011 7:00:35 PM

so, the only guy who gets to keep his job through all this is the guy who witnessed the buttsecks?

11/10/2011 7:19:17 PM

i am kind of surprised that he still has his job.

he's just as culpable - if not moreso than paterno.

11/10/2011 7:20:38 PM

Lets try to come up with a worse possible scenario using our imagination. I'm not quite sure its possible.

11/10/2011 7:42:29 PM

Satanic child sacrifice is the only thing that comes to mind. But its a close one.

11/10/2011 7:48:40 PM

^^Could be worse if it turns out McQueary was one of the victims

11/10/2011 7:52:15 PM