face All American 8503 Posts user info edit post |
We played with a lot of intensity tonight and made some great offensive plays against what is a very good defensive team. And we rebounded really well against a team that usually covers the defensive glass.
Definitely more effort exerted tonight than I've seen us give all year. Diving for loose balls, going after rebounds aggressively, etc.
We're still not a smart defensive team and I worry about us burning out since we've basically become a 6 man rotation now.
I'd like to see us utilize zone more in the first half so we can steal minutes with Vandy and keep our bigs out of foul trouble and not wear ourselves out.
I think we're going to have trouble playing so few guys against teams like UNC who push the pace. 1/9/2013 10:03:24 PM |
mnfares All American 1838 Posts user info edit post |
Nice win, they woke up in the second half. Need the intensity for the entire game against Duke 1/9/2013 10:03:50 PM |
CarZin patent pending 10527 Posts user info edit post |
This is the type of finish good teams have. GA Tech played tight, but I think this was a full game of effort. We would have folded under the pressure in the past. 1/9/2013 10:04:15 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148440 Posts user info edit post |
9 wins in a row, 13-2 overall, 2-0 in conference, covers the spread
face still says we are a bubble team who isnt very good
Quote : | "We would have folded under the pressure in the past." |
yep, same with the BC game...but people forget how shitty we've been the last 20 years
[Edited on January 9, 2013 at 10:05 PM. Reason : .]1/9/2013 10:04:18 PM |
BeerzNBikes All American 3736 Posts user info edit post |
1/9/2013 10:04:48 PM |
tower All American 12280 Posts user info edit post |
83-70 final
fuck you kenpom, treetwista was right 1/9/2013 10:05:36 PM |
aaronburro Sup, B 53065 Posts user info edit post |
That's why you are on the bench 1/9/2013 10:05:58 PM |
omgyouresexy All American 1509 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "We would have folded under the pressure in the past." |
This.1/9/2013 10:06:03 PM |
eyewall41 All American 2262 Posts user info edit post |
wow I am happy to eat crow on what I thought was a sure trap game! We got out of that nicely in the end! 1/9/2013 10:06:06 PM |
CEmann All American 1913 Posts user info edit post |
whew 1/9/2013 10:06:16 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148440 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "We're 131st in Offensive rebounding. And when you make a shot there is no offensive rebound to attempt so it doesn't count, bozo." |
we were 234th in "offensive rebounds per game"...i simply stated a factual statistic1/9/2013 10:06:37 PM |
qwery2 Veteran 261 Posts user info edit post |
Loved the response by the team in the last 10 minutes or so. Way to pull away. 1/9/2013 10:06:56 PM |
CEmann All American 1913 Posts user info edit post |
make the duke thread now 1/9/2013 10:07:23 PM |
simonn best gottfriend 28968 Posts user info edit post |
i really believe that this team is old enough to get focused when they have to. i'll surely give them the benefit of the doubt as long as they're winning. 1/9/2013 10:07:39 PM |
BeerzNBikes All American 3736 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "yep, same with the BC game...but people forget how shitty we've been the last 20 years" |
BC just beat VT on the road, who beat OKST, who beat us. no shame from that BC game where there were also some crap calls at the end that kept it close1/9/2013 10:07:45 PM |
BigMan157 no u 103354 Posts user info edit post |
never doubted for a second 1/9/2013 10:08:15 PM |
qwery2 Veteran 261 Posts user info edit post |
They mentioned a stat that along with 50+% shooting, we rebound 38% of our misses. That's pretty damn good. 1/9/2013 10:08:16 PM |
EMCE balls deep 89771 Posts user info edit post |
I'm just happy Gotti whipped out team into game shape. The team from two years ago would have been too tired too keep playing, methinks 1/9/2013 10:08:17 PM |
face All American 8503 Posts user info edit post |
Well we are still on the bubble.
We're ranked #35 now but prior to tonight our recent efforts showed we weren't playing at the level of even a top 50 team.
Being that we returned nearly all of our key players it was fair to assume we'd start the season with an advantage and that other teams would begin to catch up with us as the season went on. I don't think anyone expected them to catch up so quickly or have so many teams zoom past us.
We'll have a much better idea after these next two games if we've just been half assing it all season or if this team just doesn't have it.
I'm praying we right the ship, we all had a lot of hopes this season. Tonight was certainly a good sign, it's the hardest we've played all season. When we pick up the intensity defensively and start forcing long rebounds and turnovers it allows us to get in transition and we become an offensive juggernaut. 1/9/2013 10:08:18 PM |
Lionheart I'm Eggscellent 12775 Posts user info edit post |
lol if we are about to beat maryland when they come into town we need to start and ACC chant. 1/9/2013 10:08:51 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148440 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I'd like to see us utilize zone more in the first half so we can steal minutes with Vandy and keep our bigs out of foul trouble and not wear ourselves out." |
while i dont disagree with a strategy to keep CJello and HowNowBrownCow out of foul trouble, if you've watched the games instead of jacking it to kenpom, we've had CalvinDoggyDogLion and DickShamwowHowellTowel play the same stand-like-a-statue-and-dont-be-agressive defense to avoid early foul trouble to wisely keep them available in the 2nd half...so I don't really see how TBDV allowing the same shots is gonna help too much
Quote : | "We're ranked #35 now" |
lol at thinking kenpom has already updated...they havent factored in this game yet face, pomeroy is only updated through tuesday games
[Edited on January 9, 2013 at 10:11 PM. Reason : .]1/9/2013 10:10:10 PM |
HOOPS MALONE Suspended 2258 Posts user info edit post |
RPI has us at 16, jockass
NCAA doesn't give a shit about Kenpom 1/9/2013 10:10:46 PM |
saps852 New Recruit 80068 Posts user info edit post |
as per usual, face ignores my question 1/9/2013 10:11:06 PM |
tower All American 12280 Posts user info edit post |
AHAHAHAHAHHAAH
GREAT ENDING, MARYLAND 1/9/2013 10:12:25 PM |
Shrike All American 9594 Posts user info edit post |
GT is a top 10 defense in the country and we shot over 50% on them while putting up 83 points. That is absolutely sick. Fuck anyone who criticizes the effort tonight. 1/9/2013 10:13:38 PM |
TKEshultz All American 7327 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "NCAA doesn't give a shit about Kenpom " |
Quote : | "NCAA doesn't give a shit about Kenpom " |
Quote : | "NCAA doesn't give a shit about Kenpom " |
Quote : | "NCAA doesn't give a shit about Kenpom " |
Quote : | "NCAA doesn't give a shit about Kenpom " |
Quote : | "NCAA doesn't give a shit about Kenpom " |
1/9/2013 10:14:08 PM |
Demathis1 All American 4364 Posts user info edit post |
we win, maryland loses..
life is sweet. 1/9/2013 10:14:22 PM |
j_sun All American 9198 Posts user info edit post |
wait, is this Howell or Brown?1/9/2013 10:16:33 PM |
sand robot Sand Lion 2227 Posts user info edit post |
the offensive rebounds per game stat is misleading because we have the best FG% in the country
It'd bedifferent if we were shooting 40% and still have the same # of offensive rebounds 1/9/2013 10:16:41 PM |
face All American 8503 Posts user info edit post |
So far we've found ways to win, yes. But some of that is good fortune as well. It's hard to quantify the randomness of the world.
We are ranked #63 in the country in luck right now though.
I agree the NCAA does not factor kenpom into their tournament brackets, but obviously it's a better metric for how good a team is and a significantly better predictor of year end records, future spreads, etc than you could ever get from looking at something simple and misleading like RPI and AP/Coaches polls.
We're #131 in offensive rebounding percentage and #274 in defensive rebounding percentage. Nothing misleading about that, we just suck at rebounding.
[Edited on January 9, 2013 at 10:17 PM. Reason : a] 1/9/2013 10:16:48 PM |
Maverick1024 All American 4866 Posts user info edit post |
I love being ranked and having high expectations, but holy shit it makes these tight games against unranked opponents stressful. The first 30 minutes were a mess. Big time finish from Zo, Wood, and co.
I love this team, but they're going to kill me. At least we'll be underdogs on Saturday. 1/9/2013 10:17:00 PM |
sand robot Sand Lion 2227 Posts user info edit post |
my guess is the line will be Duke -1 or pk 1/9/2013 10:17:46 PM |
saps852 New Recruit 80068 Posts user info edit post |
damn, if only we had more leprechauns, maybe we'd have a better luck ranking
[Edited on January 9, 2013 at 10:19 PM. Reason : and you also still avoid answering the question] 1/9/2013 10:18:22 PM |
fart king Veteran 125 Posts user info edit post |
I am going to be the first person to disagree with FACE and say this team is better than bubble. When you start the season ranked in the top 10, fans expect to see you blow out most competition. Our offense is about as good as you can ever want, its our defense that needs work. I think a zone would be best, however, I get the impression the coaches think that would slow down our transition offense. Either way, if we get good on defense, I think by season's end this team will have a solid seeding in the tournament. I think we start slow every game because we know that if our interior defense gets in foul trouble, we will have a very difficult time winning, so we tend to give up a lot of easy looks in the first half, which would explain why it is always a tale of 2 halves. We still have work to do, but I am very optimistic about this season. 1/9/2013 10:19:10 PM |
dweedle All American 77386 Posts user info edit post |
aint no way Duke is favored by fewer than 5 1/9/2013 10:19:13 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148440 Posts user info edit post |
i wonder how face figured the Maryland game was a probably loss when Maryland was ranked (going into today) 13 spots lower to us in Ken Pomeroy's holy bible
also UMD's loss wasn't that surprising, thats what happens when your last 15 games' best opponent is Northwestern 1/9/2013 10:20:02 PM |
rflong All American 11472 Posts user info edit post |
Great finish tonight for the team. Wood playing like a true senior the past 2 games in clutch time. We got hosed on 3 different charge calls tonight which was bullshit by the refs. We should get at least one of those 50-50 calls.
Lol at maryland. FSU trying save their season. 1/9/2013 10:20:16 PM |
aaronburro Sup, B 53065 Posts user info edit post |
^^ that's easy. MD has a much higher luck ranking, maybe 15 or 16] 1/9/2013 10:21:16 PM |
tower All American 12280 Posts user info edit post |
kelly is out
we got this
T.ZO 20/10 again. CJeezy and Howl Towl 40 rebounds. Great Scott makes more 3s than double j dicks ever did in a game
147-96 final 1/9/2013 10:21:29 PM |
Prawn Star All American 7643 Posts user info edit post |
Don't be an idiot. It's at home and Duke just lost Kelly
The line will be about Duke -2. 1/9/2013 10:22:50 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148440 Posts user info edit post |
Maryland's Luck rating is 238
whatever the fuck that worthless 'stat' even means 1/9/2013 10:23:08 PM |
face All American 8503 Posts user info edit post |
We're playing at Maryland dude. This your first season following basketball?
I'd say Duke -6
[Edited on January 9, 2013 at 10:24 PM. Reason : a] 1/9/2013 10:23:39 PM |
Flyin Ryan All American 8224 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "face still says we are a bubble team who isnt very good " |
face: "If Duke wins the tourney, the ACC could be a one-bid league."1/9/2013 10:24:31 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148440 Posts user info edit post |
i'm well aware of what playing at maryland entails...that our team will have hundreds of f-bomb chants dropped on them
fact is, Maryland isn't a very good team, they're not even a bubble team according to kenpom which is all that matters
[Edited on January 9, 2013 at 10:25 PM. Reason : ^lol] 1/9/2013 10:25:16 PM |
KyleAtState All American 1679 Posts user info edit post |
Rebounds State 38 GT 33
Off Rebounds State - 1 per 3.4 missed shots GT - 1 per 3.8 missed shots 1/9/2013 10:25:28 PM |
GingaNinja All American 7177 Posts user info edit post |
face's shit getting played out ITT. He's a great stats guy but his conclusions are always extreme.
I think he is a poster on the bubble. Credibility going down... 1/9/2013 10:25:43 PM |
face All American 8503 Posts user info edit post |
LOL, we play well for 10 minutes for the first time in 6 games and everyone thinks we're going 15-3 again. We'll see warlocks.
What did I have us going, 12-6? I think I'm looking better than most for sure.
Definitely nice to finally get things going tonight. Just enjoy the win guys, you're going to have to sulk in losses soon.
[Edited on January 9, 2013 at 10:27 PM. Reason : a] 1/9/2013 10:26:47 PM |
tower All American 12280 Posts user info edit post |
maryland is 0-2 on the season
theyre due for a win 1/9/2013 10:26:48 PM |
saps852 New Recruit 80068 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "we play well for 10 minutes for the first time in 6 games and everyone thinks we're going 15-3 again. We'll see warlocks." |
nobodys said that, and we've been finishing games strong since the michigan game1/9/2013 10:28:29 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148440 Posts user info edit post |
you know face is off his rocker when he's using Charlie Sheen vocabulary
^we've been winning 9 games in a row since the UM game
[Edited on January 9, 2013 at 10:29 PM. Reason : .] 1/9/2013 10:28:47 PM |