Finally, a game with no heart medication in my popcorn

2/19/2013 9:27:37 PM

^^tomato, tomato

2/19/2013 9:28:51 PM

Wins like this will keep us being the pipeline to Arizona State. Don't think they wanted Lowe though.

2/19/2013 9:28:52 PM

potato potato

2/19/2013 9:30:18 PM

^^^^^exactly. I take those stats from RH and a quality game from most everyone else with a nice W over a double double from RH and a close win or loss. And Purvis will eventually learn to finish.

[Edited on February 19, 2013 at 9:30 PM. Reason : ]

2/19/2013 9:30:27 PM

learn to take a joke, joker

2/19/2013 9:31:16 PM

Post jokes in chit chat...

2/19/2013 9:32:18 PM

why haven't we used this starting lineup yet?

2/19/2013 9:32:31 PM

Because it takes gott a long time to learn?

2/19/2013 9:33:14 PM

crazy that rich kept doing his dumb old move of overhedging and it actually worked somehow. got a steal, knocked the ball away for would be steal, then caused and over-and-back (that the dumb ref overturned)

2/19/2013 9:33:18 PM

Why did he stop play for that if he said it was touched by RH? Shouldn't it have been a play on if that was the case?

[Edited on February 19, 2013 at 9:34 PM. Reason : ]

2/19/2013 9:34:06 PM

game threads might as well be chit chat

2/19/2013 9:34:52 PM

he stopped play to call over-and-back, the other ref overturned him

2/19/2013 9:35:55 PM

I just want to see more of warren and more of us steamrolling UNC

2/19/2013 9:36:38 PM

thread is a lot funnier when we lose. I miss the funny.

2/19/2013 9:57:34 PM

When does sportscenter top 10 come out? No way we aren't on it

2/19/2013 9:58:38 PM

^11 pm SC like 1130

2/19/2013 10:21:05 PM

Thoughts from the PNC:

I've always joked that Vandy shouldn't play, the truth is he shouldn't play AT HOME. The entire crowd at PNC literally lets out a groan when he comes on the court now; it must destroy his self-confidence. I'm not saying he should get more than a couple minutes a game when Gott decides to go big (like this one), but the only times he's been even remotely serviceable have been in away games.

With Carolina's new go small lineup of late, Purvis' minutes will be up next game and Vandy's will be zero without a doubt. TJ talked in the post-game about how we was being coached on his free throws that he was leaning back too much and now he's seen an improvement in the gym.

The refs were laughable at times with the "inadvertent whistle" on the over-and-back and CJ shoved out of bounds. The white dude was caught asleep on more than one occasion. It pisses me of so much that the more they fuckup, the more they joke around and laugh during the next tv timeout

2/19/2013 10:45:10 PM

Finally a win that didn't come down to the last possession.

2/19/2013 10:50:12 PM

^^When I saw Vandy being put in, I almost turned off the tv. Im sure he's a nice guy and all, but I wonder if he's uncoachable or something.

[Edited on February 19, 2013 at 10:50 PM. Reason : ^]

2/19/2013 10:50:20 PM

That was by far the best defensive game the team has played all year. Hopefully we see that more the rest of the year. Players were actually switching with each other and it was working.

2/19/2013 10:57:30 PM

stop with the goddamn refs, jesus

2/19/2013 11:03:09 PM

Vandy, by far is, a piece of shit. There was a rant about him not caring in some thread earlier this year. He in fact, does not give two shits. He is a liability more than anything else.

2/19/2013 11:06:06 PM

FSU is the Vandenberg of the ACC

2/19/2013 11:09:15 PM

^^^ reffing wasn't half as bad as most of this year. it was a pleasant surprise honestly. there were still some misses especially with leslie getting hacked frequently, but otherwise there wasn't that much to complain about. you're always gonna have a few wtf calls/no calls... and they still suck when they happen, but they seemed to finally dial it down a notch tonight

[Edited on February 19, 2013 at 11:17 PM. Reason : ]

2/19/2013 11:15:00 PM

Nice got 2 on top10. The CJ put back dunk 8 and the out of bounds alley 3

2/20/2013 12:01:16 AM

thats the most cancer i've seen on espn since the jimmy v speech

its ok, i'm not making fun of cancer, i'm making fun of the retarded cjl haters

2/20/2013 12:03:33 AM

somebody make a gif of the inbound pass to Leslie dunk

2/20/2013 1:57:57 AM

Dunk of the Night
http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=8965077

2/20/2013 4:53:03 AM

Awesome game for State last night. Almost a complete 40 min. I say almost because Vandy got 5 minutes or whatever and we were so bad with him in the game I was telling my wife we should put in Jevoni if nothing else.

TJ Warren was Lebron-like last night in his offensive efficiency. Leslie was very good, but still made a few bone headed plays like usual. The FSU guards look like they travel everytime they start to dribble. And that dude Ojo is fucking huge, but has the basketball IQ of Vandy.

2/20/2013 8:00:25 AM

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"This is the third time NC State coach Mark Gottfried has started the lineup of Lorenzo Brown, Scott Wood, Richard Howell, C.J. Leslie and T.J. Warren this year. The group is 2-1 on the season as a starting unit."

2/20/2013 11:30:08 AM

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"got a steal, knocked the ball away for would be steal, then caused and over-and-back (that the dumb ref overturned)"

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"The refs were laughable at times with the "inadvertent whistle" on the over-and-back"

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"stop with the goddamn refs, jesus"

It was NOT back-court. Howell made contact with the ball obviously and FSU had not re-established possession. Read a rule book please before bitching. That is not back-court. It was the correct call.

2/20/2013 11:32:49 AM

^That is what happened. They got it right. I guess he blew the whistle and was like "wait, I'm an idiot". Unless another ref blew the whistle

2/20/2013 11:35:01 AM

the refs got that backcourt call right. refs weren't an issue last night.

plz to play like that the rest of the season

2/20/2013 11:44:13 AM

The whistle was the only problem.

2/20/2013 11:53:21 AM

On the back court play, it looked like the FSU player did re-gain possession IMO. Howell hit the ball, it went to the floor, the FSU guy got it, dribbled, and then stepped over the half court line.

It does not matter at this point, but still there should be some type of review system in case a call like happens in a crucial situation.

2/20/2013 11:55:57 AM

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"Read a rule book please before bitching. That is not back-court. It was the correct call."

dont be a dick, people know the rule... the argument is entirely in the gray area, not about the rule. This "bitching" (that you so call it) is from those who thought he did re-establish possession, and I also believe he did re-establish it so... based on this "rule book" it is ok to be upset with the call at the time. In live motion though, I can see how the call could have been made either way, it was a tough one.

2/20/2013 11:58:23 AM

Officiating hasn't really been a problem for us all year, outside of a few isolated calls. We have more FTA than our opponents in almost every game, and Howell/Leslie have rarely been in foul trouble. Hell, Leslie travels as much as Hansborough ever did and gets away with it almost as often. We got nothing to complain about.

2/20/2013 11:59:50 AM

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"We have more FTA than our opponents in almost every game"

i hate when people use this as a litmus test for how accurate the refs are. maybe it just means that in most of our games, the other team is legitimately fouling us more than we're fouling them? isn't that possible? i'm not complaining about the refs too much, it just seems that this year there have been a lot of terrible calls (or no calls) in the last seconds of a lot of ACC games (not just ours) that had a big effect on the outcome.

2/20/2013 12:13:31 PM

Yep.

By the rule book CJL walk on almost every post move and most times blatantly. He is definitely getting the Hansbrough treatment on those (but CJL does take a lot of contact at times with no calls).

2/20/2013 12:14:38 PM

^^Well, our fan base has collectively used that as a litmus test in regards to an alleged officiating conspiracy in favor of Duke/UNC for the last 2 decades. The truth is that they just had better players than almost everyone else during that stretch, and were getting legitimately fouled a lot.

[Edited on February 20, 2013 at 12:18 PM. Reason : :]

2/20/2013 12:17:39 PM

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" I also believe he did re-establish it so"

Barely getting his hand on the ball does not mean possession.

2/20/2013 12:24:19 PM

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"BACK AND TO THE LEFT"

2/20/2013 12:34:08 PM

from where i was sitting it looked like he had at least one if not two dribbles before he went over the line. i think the main gripe is the ref blew the whistle and then started saying it was knocked away. no one overturned him that i saw it was just him stopping play for no real reason

2/20/2013 1:17:04 PM

^ yeah its one thing to make a close call but then you can't waffle around on it for 2 mins afterward and change it. That will piss off everybody

2/20/2013 1:18:41 PM

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"We have more FTA than our opponents in almost every game"

this doesn't necessarily mean that one team is getting more calls than the other. a lot of times this will be a reflection of one team driving to the basket more while the other is shooting more jump shots as the chances of drawing a foul are greater when you keep attacking the basket.

2/20/2013 1:31:56 PM

There was also a situation early in the game where they blew the whistle for no apparent reason while FSU had the ball in play and nothing happened. They just in-bounded the ball and continued play. Does anyone know what that was about? I couldn't tell at the game.

2/20/2013 2:13:39 PM

The announcer said something about the ref had to have a conversation with one of the fsu players. I guess he was giving him a warning or something? A yellow card?

2/20/2013 2:19:27 PM

Thanks, I thought it might be something like that.

2/20/2013 2:21:14 PM

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"There was also a situation early in the game where they blew the whistle for no apparent reason while FSU had the ball in play and nothing happened. They just in-bounded the ball and continued play. Does anyone know what that was about? I couldn't tell at the game."

Yeah one of the 7' centers (not the huge beast Ojo, but the other guy that hit all his FTs), he was getting chippy inside with Howell or Leslie.

Overall the refs were very good for us last night.


[Edited on February 20, 2013 at 3:58 PM. Reason : df]

2/20/2013 3:57:24 PM