thegoldenrul Veteran 176 Posts user info edit post |
I seem to have an ego to you because in contrast I happen to have a backbone, sense of self and the conviction not to be afraid to express that.
You really think I spend my spare time researching, organizing, speaking at city council et al because of an ego trip? You must be REALLY deluded buddy because I don't WANT to do this but I feel compelled to because I became aware of the situation and actually have enough humanity left inside me to do something about it. I have a shitload of other hobbies an interests I'd rather be pursuing frankly.
If someone else had taken the lead on this issue I would be their follower, but nobody had so I did it myself. It's called leadership, discernment and conviction. 4/19/2013 12:23:07 PM |
Bullet All American 28404 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "It should be news to no one that our agriculture & food system here is likewise tainted by corporate interests but I am sure this is just another topic to laugh at as a defense mechanism." |
i think think that would be a much more worthwhile crusade than flouride in our water.4/19/2013 12:24:24 PM |
thegoldenrul Veteran 176 Posts user info edit post |
Then take it up, Bullet.
Fluoride is one issue of many, I'm already on it. 4/19/2013 12:25:33 PM |
dtownral Suspended 26632 Posts user info edit post |
(protip: it doesn't matter what form it is, the ions are the same until you get to a pH low enough that the flouride is the last of your problems if you drink it. you know... because chemistry!) 4/19/2013 12:26:13 PM |
thegoldenrul Veteran 176 Posts user info edit post |
Wolfmarsh - i would still object because the idea that our government has the authority to medicate our water supply based on their own suppositions is a flawed one.
I only hammer the FSA point because part of the deception is that it is naturally occuring groundwater fluoride which is added to our water, which it isn't. 4/19/2013 12:26:54 PM |
Wolfmarsh What? 5975 Posts user info edit post |
That's the point exactly. You think you are saving us from our own stupid selves, when in reality you aren't.
It's great to be skeptical of the government, they will fuck us seven ways of sunday. Unfortunately for you, fluoridation is generally accepted by experts as a safe practice with more benefit than negatives.
You aren't an expert, only someone who has misunderstood the facts. 4/19/2013 12:27:13 PM |
Wolfmarsh What? 5975 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I only hammer the FSA point because part of the deception is that it is naturally occuring groundwater fluoride which is added to our water, which it isn't." |
Who claims that? I don't think anyone is hiding where the chemicals come from, as seen in the publicly available documentation.4/19/2013 12:28:13 PM |
thegoldenrul Veteran 176 Posts user info edit post |
That's just not true Wolfmarsh. The government says that same line you wrote over and over since the 50's, but it isn't true. 4/19/2013 12:29:12 PM |
thegoldenrul Veteran 176 Posts user info edit post |
Did you not see the video where the deputy sheriff escorted me out of the building when the "EXPERT" panel tried to tell the durham public health board it was naturally occuring fluoride which was added to the water?
How could they have FSA listed on their own website but then obfuscate this fact during the public hearing? 4/19/2013 12:30:11 PM |
Bullet All American 28404 Posts user info edit post |
^^You haven't proven that, at all. Somehow you know more than 10s of 1000s of scientists (or I suppose that they're all in cahoots with the government and the fertilizer companies)
[Edited on April 19, 2013 at 12:31 PM. Reason : ] 4/19/2013 12:30:13 PM |
Wolfmarsh What? 5975 Posts user info edit post |
What line? And everything I have said is the truth. If you accept it or not is the problem.
You have become so defined by this issue, you can't fathom a world where it isn't actually an issue. 4/19/2013 12:30:22 PM |
dtownral Suspended 26632 Posts user info edit post |
i think maybe you missed my pro tip 4/19/2013 12:30:42 PM |
thegoldenrul Veteran 176 Posts user info edit post |
I've become defined by the issue when there are similarly millions of people who object to forced medication and also scientists, doctors and dentists who have evaluated the practice since it began in the 50's finding it to have been done on a totally flawed premise.
It's all about ME right. Discredit ME and who I am instead of the actual situation & science. you guys are so dense it's really incredible. 4/19/2013 12:33:37 PM |
dtownral Suspended 26632 Posts user info edit post |
i'm just discrediting your misinformation, i'm fine with your campaign if you used real science and stopped trying to scare people about lead and arsenic 4/19/2013 12:35:25 PM |
Bullet All American 28404 Posts user info edit post |
I'd just like to know what's in it for the thousands of local governments who spend their money on flouride to put in their citizen's water. Why are they paying millions of dollars to dispose of fertilzer companies' "waste"? It just doesn't make any sense to me. 4/19/2013 12:38:06 PM |
Wolfmarsh What? 5975 Posts user info edit post |
I've discredited the dangers of fluoride in the water, the only thing left to discredit is you.
I'm guessing that you got thrown out of the meeting because you didn't play the game. If you really want to make your point, assemble facts that nobody can deny.
Where are the letters and notebooks and records that show this was a conspiracy? Do you honestly believe that tens of thousands of people have kept their mouth shut over bribes and secret payoffs from the industry? 4/19/2013 12:39:37 PM |
thegoldenrul Veteran 176 Posts user info edit post |
Look chumps, if you want to keep your eyes shut be my guest. I have presented the science, legal issues and the self evident immorality of this to all the city councils in the area.
See, they even have the Harvard study I sent to them uploaded on the servers of Durham County website so hopefully they are reading it:
http://durhamnc.gov/ich/op/dwm/Documents/Water%20Supply%20and%20Treat%20PDF%27s/Harvard%20High%20FluorideandLow%20IQAugust%202012.pdf
It is only a matter of time before I succeed, but the fact that I haven't yet doesn't mean I'm discredited. They threw me out because they don't want to have a real honest debate on the issue, instead they'd prefer to have government paid supporters of the policy testify as "experts."
Bullet can't understand how a policy is created and then perpetrated and when I explain the complexity of it, he ignores the pages and hours of video which exist to support my statements. Not my problem if he doesn't get it. 4/19/2013 1:07:11 PM |
Bullet All American 28404 Posts user info edit post |
How is thegoldenrul a veteran? He just joined on the 13th. 4/19/2013 1:07:42 PM |
Bullet All American 28404 Posts user info edit post |
nm, delusions of grandeur
[Edited on April 19, 2013 at 1:16 PM. Reason : ] 4/19/2013 1:10:51 PM |
ndmetcal All American 9012 Posts user info edit post |
post count 4/19/2013 1:11:01 PM |
mildew Drunk yet Orderly 14177 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Did you not see the video where the deputy sheriff escorted me out of the building when the "EXPERT" panel tried to tell the durham public health board it was naturally occuring fluoride which was added to the water?" |
Do you not see us trying to do the same here?
4/19/2013 1:16:19 PM |
dtownral Suspended 26632 Posts user info edit post |
http://www.brentroad.com/message_topic.aspx?topic=628890 4/19/2013 1:22:02 PM |
Wolfmarsh What? 5975 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Look chumps, if you want to keep your eyes shut be my guest." |
Quote : | ""They tend to enjoy the ego-boost that comes with thinking of oneself as the only intelligent objector in a world of sheeple"" |
4/19/2013 2:28:50 PM |
thegoldenrul Veteran 176 Posts user info edit post |
Looks like Wolfmarsh accepted my invitation. Not surprised! 4/19/2013 3:25:42 PM |
Wolfmarsh What? 5975 Posts user info edit post |
I just walked down the hall in the office producing chemtrails. 4/19/2013 3:35:34 PM |
adultswim Suspended 8379 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "http://www.brentroad.com/message_topic.aspx?topic=628890" |
rude4/19/2013 3:59:18 PM |
Wolfmarsh What? 5975 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "It is only a matter of time before I succeed, but the fact that I haven't yet doesn't mean I'm discredited. They threw me out because they don't want to have a real honest debate on the issue, instead they'd prefer to have government paid supporters of the policy testify as "experts." " |
Quote : | "Conspiracy theorists divide the world into "Everyone even remotely involved/qualified vs. Me," and decide that they'll win single-handedly. They're like Rambo with bullshit instead of bullets." |
4/19/2013 5:15:44 PM |
dtownral Suspended 26632 Posts user info edit post |
i don't want the truth sliding too far down the page 4/21/2013 7:39:52 PM |
ndmetcal All American 9012 Posts user info edit post |
I heard that if we let this thread go 24 hrs w/o a post, then the Illuminaughty win 4/22/2013 4:36:44 PM |
rwoody Save TWW 37669 Posts user info edit post |
at least spell it right, its aleuminitty. 4/22/2013 8:37:13 PM |
PaulISdead All American 8772 Posts user info edit post |
Illuminati 4/23/2013 9:41:18 AM |
spöokyjon ℵ 18617 Posts user info edit post |
No, that's not it. 4/23/2013 11:18:02 AM |
Bullet All American 28404 Posts user info edit post |
4/23/2013 12:11:31 PM |
thegoldenrul Veteran 176 Posts user info edit post |
Ya'll should check this video out
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZabGVxv96qI 4/30/2013 8:18:22 PM |
Smath74 All American 93278 Posts user info edit post |
tl;dw 4/30/2013 9:01:42 PM |
puck_it All American 15446 Posts user info edit post |
I watched two minutes of it. I regret it. 4/30/2013 9:16:56 PM |
NeuseRvrRat hello Mr. NSA! 35376 Posts user info edit post |
i heard they're making Plan B available OTC
they should put that shit in the water 4/30/2013 9:23:34 PM |
Wolfmarsh What? 5975 Posts user info edit post |
I hate that you got a view off of me clicking the link, so I hit back with a thumbs down. 4/30/2013 9:31:00 PM |
dtownral Suspended 26632 Posts user info edit post |
Operation Paul Revere InfoWars.com Contest; 21st Century Dawes Project
the girl with the eyebrow ring looks like she would do things 5/1/2013 8:48:47 AM |
thegoldenrul Veteran 176 Posts user info edit post |
You guys are really the lowest common denominator of society 5/1/2013 10:43:16 AM |
UJustWait84 All American 25821 Posts user info edit post |
says the whackjob conspiracy theorist with rotting teeth 5/1/2013 10:44:11 AM |
dtownral Suspended 26632 Posts user info edit post |
in all fairness, his teeth are not rotting
... they are just all brown and gross because his parents didn't love him enough to make sure that he spit out his toothpaste as a child 5/1/2013 1:03:49 PM |
Bullet All American 28404 Posts user info edit post |
http://gawker.com/the-infuriating-selfish-logic-of-portlands-anti-fluor-509327808 5/23/2013 3:53:43 PM |
Smath74 All American 93278 Posts user info edit post |
liberals ignoring science? 5/23/2013 4:19:38 PM |
Bullet All American 28404 Posts user info edit post |
i'd have to guess that the majority of folks who oppose flouridation wouldn't identify themselves as liberal. maybe it's different in Portland. 5/23/2013 4:32:34 PM |
dtownral Suspended 26632 Posts user info edit post |
its traditionally been a hippie-liberal thing 5/23/2013 5:26:09 PM |
Smath74 All American 93278 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "The key point pushed by the anti-fluoride campaign, which was driven, as is practically everything in Portland, largely by liberals, was that the government wanted to force toxic chemicals into your body." |
5/23/2013 5:53:49 PM |
smc All American 9221 Posts user info edit post |
It always seemed like a libertarian issue to me. Republicans shouldn't like it because it's socialized medicine. 5/23/2013 6:10:48 PM |
Bullet All American 28404 Posts user info edit post |
I realize that story says it's driven by the liberals in portland, but i was also under the impression that that that anti-flouridation was a cause usually taken up by libertarians. right-wing folks who think the government is trying to poison them. like Goldenrul and General Jack D. Ripper. 5/23/2013 7:32:45 PM |
settledown Suspended 11583 Posts user info edit post |
5/23/2013 7:49:28 PM |