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"laxman490 - kyle washington is a damn idiot. --- Lacey is the only one with any composure on this team"

You're a fucking idiot...but with lax in your username, that's par for the course.

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"Shotclock expired before we inbounded the ball?"

Yeah that was some bullshit. THEY fucked up the shotclock, so we had to re-do the inbounds which resulted in us losing possession of the ball. Bullshit.

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"seriously.... you people are full of the crazy.... the same epople that 3-ish games ago wanted to ban washington ever shooting again"

Wait who said this stupidness? I need names here...

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"there is no "reestablishing" yourself inbounds. if you go out of bounds by your own volition, you cannot be the next person to touch the ball, period."

Yeah the rule is pretty straightforward...I don't get all the bitching about it ITT.

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"that may be the most reasonable thing burro has ever posted on this site."

That's not really saying much

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"If we keep missing FTs in clutch scenarios we won't be going far in March"

Good thing March is 3 fucking months away.

[Edited on December 3, 2014 at 1:09 AM. Reason : V feels good man]

12/3/2014 1:03:11 AM

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12/3/2014 1:08:12 AM

Can somebody ban synapse's ass, dude's crazy

12/3/2014 1:11:58 AM

Your point was stupid.

Don't be so butthurt about that fact.

12/3/2014 1:25:52 AM

the King of Quotes makes his monthly appearance in Sports Talk

12/3/2014 1:57:39 AM

Bigs got owned inside, and we suck at free throws


The play cat made with about 4 mins left where he dribbled the ball down, dribbled around, and shot a fadeaway, giving them a rebound and a fast break 3 on the other end was a loser play. We need the PG to be smarter than that.

[Edited on December 3, 2014 at 3:04 AM. Reason : .]

12/3/2014 3:02:41 AM

Cat sucks

Turner is shitty at defense

Also, is the high post supposed to look like this? We seem to have no real plan with what we're doing with the ball. Lacey and Washington bailed us out of so many busted ass possessions. Or maybe that was perfect execution?

12/3/2014 6:29:48 AM

Turner was NOT the first (which is what the rule says, not "next") person to touch the ball after he came back in bounds, Barber was.

The rule is intended for loose ball situations and the rare case where a pass leaves the passer's hands while the receiver is still out of bounds.

By the ref's interpretation, Barber could have dribbled another 20 seconds and STILL gotten a violation. Also, by that interpretation, if a defender ran out of bounds while guarding the ball, theywouldn't be allowed to try to steal or block a shot after they came back in


We would have struggled to win WITHOUT that call, but the call was horseshit

[Edited on December 3, 2014 at 7:43 AM. Reason : A]

12/3/2014 7:42:20 AM

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"Cat sucks"

I wonder how much wants it. He doesn't show the traits of a great player imo. He's more concerned with bitches and shoes than he is with working on his jumper. He was the worst player on the floor for us vs Boise, and then two hours later he's on stage at some show and posting it on instagram. I wish he would post a video of him going straight to the Dail Center and getting up some shots instead. We all know that's never going to happen.

12/3/2014 7:51:37 AM

^ HONEST!!

12/3/2014 8:13:48 AM

It's hard to say how good Purdue is, but they looked like a good team last night. This loss kinda reminds me of that @Cincy loss early last year. Our FIRST TRUE ROAD GAME against a physical, defensive team and we struggled some. This would have been a nice resume builder, but we've got plenty of chances to build our resume still left (I know it's early to be talking about that).

Gott said in his post game, and maybe it was just coach speak, that Purdue will maybe be one of the best defensive teams we play all year. We didn't have many easy shots all night. We need to work on FTs (duh) and rebounding against bigger teams. We've rebounded fine up till now, but we've mostly been the bigger team in these early games. I'd love to see Lacey be more aggressive in getting his shot, too.

12/3/2014 8:41:22 AM

Purdue will do well to be.500 in the B1G... But that is more about the conference strength than the team. They are tough inside.

12/3/2014 8:49:13 AM

How many hundreds if not thousands of points less would Redick have had at Duke if that call was made consistently?

12/3/2014 9:08:29 AM

glad we cleared up that that call was bullshit. as was said earlier in this thread, i don't think it necessarily cost us the game, but it damn sure reduced our chances of winning. and while i thought the officials were fairly consistent with calls against both teams, i thought it sucked that they got so whistle-happy in the 2nd half. but at least they were consistent with their frequent ass whistles. was like a too short concert. woo-wooooo-wooooooo-woooo

i'm ok with this loss. obviously it's disappointing, but considering we were on the road and playing a team with two 7-footers and some good shooters, i'm not too upset. clearly there were some plays that sucked (cat's TO's, the missed FT, etc), but it's college basketball - those plays are gonna be there every game for every team. at least we didn't completely shit the bed once we got down big early, as i've seen us do countless times in early season road games in the past.

12/3/2014 9:23:19 AM

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"i'm ok with this loss. obviously it's disappointing, but considering we were on the road and playing a team with two 7-footers and some good shooters, i'm not too upset. clearly there were some plays that sucked (cat's TO's, the missed FT, etc), but it's college basketball - those plays are gonna be there every game for every team. at least we didn't completely shit the bed once we got down big early, as i've seen us do countless times in early season road games in the past. "

my feelings almost exactly. This team is gritty, and if we can get the late game FT issues worked out, we'll be a tough out for anybody.

And that big white dude was a load.

12/3/2014 9:48:17 AM

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"I wonder how much wants it. He doesn't show the traits of a great player imo. He's more concerned with bitches and shoes than he is with working on his jumper. He was the worst player on the floor for us vs Boise, and then two hours later he's on stage at some show and posting it on instagram. I wish he would post a video of him going straight to the Dail Center and getting up some shots instead. We all know that's never going to happen."

a post like this deserves to go in the @PFTcommenter Hall of Fame

12/3/2014 9:53:46 AM

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"Yeah the rule is pretty straightforward...I don't get all the bitching about it ITT."

Because most of us have been watching college basketball for years and the call is never made....especially not with the game on the line. Hell it happened a few times earlier and no whistle. Officiating was inconsistent last night. Not a single over the back call.

12/3/2014 9:56:07 AM

more like Anthon-ME Barber, amirite.

kid needs to get his lunchpail and go to work

[Edited on December 3, 2014 at 9:57 AM. Reason : ^^ lol ]

12/3/2014 9:56:47 AM

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"my feelings almost exactly. This team is gritty, and if we can get the late game FT issues worked out, we'll be a tough out for anybody."

Don't be fooled, Pur doo-doo defense is good NOT great. I think this team offense goes to the shitter once we face a defensively minded team like Virgina, I expect another blow out lost to the cavaliqueers in Charlottesville. Even though Lacey is good as advertised he can't bail us out of every situation, we need more players to step up.

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"And that big white dude was a load."

Kid got potential, but at least our bigs got experience dealing with 7 footers.

[Edited on December 3, 2014 at 12:40 PM. Reason : ...]

12/3/2014 12:39:29 PM

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"we need more players to step up."

Washington had a helluva game (outside of that stupid push in the back).

I'm expecting big things from him...

12/3/2014 12:55:12 PM

This team needs more road grading lunch pail fellas. High basketball-IQ gym rats and coach's sons like Tyler Lewis and Jordan Vandenberg.

12/3/2014 1:06:27 PM

A real shame that lunch pail guys like Chris Brickhouse and Chase Cannon don't see the court more. Always the first ones to the gym and last ones to leave. Real road graders. They play the game the right way.

[Edited on December 3, 2014 at 1:09 PM. Reason : a]

12/3/2014 1:09:17 PM

We need guys that are scrappy, imo

12/3/2014 1:11:52 PM

Washington is streaky but he's trending in the right direction and plays with confidence which I like. However, he needs more B Ball IQ as some of his actions on the court make be cringe. I was most dissapointed with Barber because of his potential, he still plays like a high school point guard at times and will get exposed badly with good defenses. I hope Gottfried recruits a PG that can knock down open 3s, have a free throw percentage > 80%, and can smoothly run the offense. I would personally experiment with Caleb with PG once Barber goes into Bizzaro mode.

12/3/2014 1:12:48 PM

Hard to take away anything bad from the first road game of the season in a hostile environment against a tough opponent. We hung in there, coulda been rolled at various points, but continued to play tight defense and make big shots. They just made more plays than we did in the end, no shame in that. One of these days I'd like to see us run an actual offense against the zone though......

12/3/2014 1:14:48 PM

The bigs just got owned inside on defense and rebounding. Anya doesn't know how to defend without fouling and everyone else offers no resistance


Can't believe these guys didn't learn how to defend bigger guys when practicing against vandenberg

12/3/2014 1:48:58 PM

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"against vandenberg"

12/3/2014 1:58:31 PM

We're gonna be in big trouble this season if we face one of the handful of other teams in the country with 2 7-footers

12/3/2014 2:20:18 PM

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"Hard to take away anything bad from the first road game of the season in a hostile environment against a tough opponent. We hung in there, coulda been rolled at various points, but continued to play tight defense and make big shots. They just made more plays than we did in the end, no shame in that. One of these days I'd like to see us run an actual offense against the zone though......"

Exactly. Too early in the year to throw in the towel and say that the team is doomed. They hung in there and fought it out which is actually a great sign. Also good to see Washington developing. I think that there are more positives to be gained from a loss like this than stomping a scrub team. Not to start that moral victory aspect, but anyways.

12/3/2014 2:20:31 PM

Going on the road and losing a game like this should be enough to get the guys to realize what they need to work on and where they need to get better. We aren't gonna win them all so its a matter of what the young guys take away from losses to get better.

12/3/2014 2:49:24 PM

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"I hope Gottfried recruits a PG that can knock down open 3s, have a free throw percentage > 80%, and can smoothly run the offense."

Congratulations. Every coach in the country is trying to recruit that player. Good luck.

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"I would personally experiment with Caleb with PG once Barber goes into Bizzaro mode."

wut?

12/3/2014 3:40:32 PM

It should be pretty clear that in this earlier going, Cat hasn't improved like we anticipated and his play is currently got this team mired in mediocrity.

If he actually finds his game and we start firing on all cylinders however, we can play with just about anyone not named UK.

12/3/2014 3:45:46 PM

I thought Cat has been fine this season outside of last night

12/3/2014 4:00:41 PM

^agreed, I feel like he is way ahead of where he was this time last year. Outside of a few possessions, I don't even think he looked that bad last night.

[Edited on December 3, 2014 at 4:06 PM. Reason : p]

12/3/2014 4:05:54 PM

you guys are doing it wrong. this is the thread where we overreact about one game and call Kyle Washington our #1 scoring threat

12/3/2014 4:08:21 PM

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"Washington had a helluva game (outside of that stupid push in the back). I'm expecting big things from him..."

such as?

12/3/2014 4:46:29 PM

I didn't think cat had all that bad of a game... it wasn't long ago that I held my breath everytime they put a defender on our pg when he brought it up the court.

12/3/2014 4:46:52 PM

Things I don't like about this team:

Barber's FT shooting
Washington's 16 footers
Not working that hard for rebounds

Things I like about this team:

Most of the rest

12/3/2014 4:51:32 PM

^^ I think he's going to be criticized when he doesn't have an above average game from now on. Not fair but he's also highly recruited and our starting PG. He just seemed lost with his dribbling/decision making most of the game and not the confident PG he can be. He took a few bad shots late that really killed us too.

With that being said, he didn't take (and miss) a crazy amount of shots and didn't turn the ball over a lot so he certainly isn't why we lost the game.

I think it's funny how Barber's bad FT shooting is always called out but Lacey went 0-3.

[Edited on December 3, 2014 at 4:57 PM. Reason : ^]

12/3/2014 4:56:04 PM

^^Washington made at least two 17 footers and made the only 3-pointer he took.

12/3/2014 5:05:54 PM

he made them, but that's not a shot you'd want him taking multiple times a game

12/3/2014 5:07:23 PM

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"Washington's 16 footers"

Get used to it. We run the high post offense.

[Edited on December 3, 2014 at 5:10 PM. Reason : ^He absolutely needs to take, and make, those shots.]

12/3/2014 5:09:33 PM

PACK GAMES MATTER

12/3/2014 5:37:13 PM

http://www.fayobserver.com/blogs/sports/acc_basketball/acc-basketball-strange-ruling-costs-n-c-state-a-chance/article_2cc8fb32-7abd-11e4-bd49-4743c933d19e.html

12/3/2014 5:56:50 PM

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"Congratulations. Every coach in the country is trying to recruit that player. Good luck."

So finding a PG that can hit open 3s, have a high FT %, and can run an offense is virtually impossible? OK.

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" wut? "

Caleb has hit twice more 3s, a better FT percentage, and better passes. I'm not sure about his dribbling but his decision making so far has been pretty good besides some bone head freshman mistakes which is expected. Obviously season is still early but numbers is all we have at this point.

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" I thought Cat has been fine this season outside of last night "

Cat had good games, and I'm wishing he proves me wrong. However, he has some issues that concerns me and the biggest are his free throw weakness when the game on the line and his decision making. Also, he still don't know how to beat the zone.

12/3/2014 5:57:15 PM

Our whole team doesn't know how to beat the zone. I don't think it's fair to put that entirely on Cat.

12/3/2014 6:03:02 PM

the Zone. So great in college ball. Virtually useless in the pros.

12/3/2014 7:18:48 PM

why are people complaining about washington's shooting? he was 8-15. if anything he should've taken more shots.

that was a good game played at a high level; it looked like a 2nd round game, to me. we lost narrowly on the road on december 2 at purdue (i.e. a real school w/ a real basketball team). we used to get run out of the gym in these games. what are y'all complaining about?

i really don't get it. has this board turned into nothing but trolls that just wait until we lose to post dumb shit? i turned off that game thinking "those were two tournament teams, could've won, really encouraging we didn't fold it in at any point, b/c there were a lot of opportunities to", then i come on here and people are talking about cat being an idiot. what?

[Edited on December 3, 2014 at 7:32 PM. Reason : we're going to win games this year, y'all. act right.]

12/3/2014 7:30:42 PM

Cat is fast, but his handle isn't good enough to keep up with his speed, which is why he can't get into the lane as much as he should. His handle is so bad I expect him to get pick pocketed 2-3 times a game at the top of the key. Can't have your point guard being a turnover prone, can't hit free throws guy.

Not to mention there are times when I watch him and go, "WTF were you thinking?". I love what the Martins bring to the floor and think they are gonna be very good players for us down the road. Hell, Caleb should probably be starting now.

First road game, first test against a team that we don't just out-athlete. They hung in there and prolly should have won. Now what they need to do is go hammer Wake Forest this weekend and put this game behind them. A road loss against Purdue is not going to keep this team out of the tournament. A loss against Wake Forest, however, very well could.

12/3/2014 7:34:49 PM

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" has this board turned into nothing but trolls that just wait until we lose to post dumb shit?"

yes, game threads have always been like that, haven't they? maybe not all trolls, but turds who enjoy bitching and complaining on the internet.

12/3/2014 7:47:37 PM