That statement is 100% accurate, Trump Jr.

12/11/2015 4:04:16 PM

So, as we can see, moron, in his heartfelt and passionate defense of Muslims everywhere, may have gotten the facts wrong about USA mosques being burned.

But if liberalism teaches us anything, it's that facts don't matter, only the narrative does.

In this case, a narrative of Evil intolerant Americans hating Muslims. That's why RawStory has a headline article for a rock being thrown through the window of a Muslim home. That's why #IStandWithAhmedHoax went viral, that's why the Mizzou lunacy spread like wildfire. If it fits the narrative of "VICTIMS" then the facts, reality, and evidence are just something used by evil racist bigot homophobes. #Liberalism.

You can call out the bullshit like I did, but that just makes you "dumb like Trump" "Herp Derp GOP, derp derp"

[Edited on December 11, 2015 at 4:54 PM. Reason : .]

12/11/2015 4:48:18 PM

Dude, shut the fuck up already. You're the worst.

12/11/2015 4:52:18 PM

Why do facts upset liberals so much?

12/11/2015 5:13:14 PM

hey you say narrative a lot

12/11/2015 5:23:48 PM

this is getting fucking weird

http://abc7.com/news/friend-says-enrique-marquez-former-neighbor-of-syed-farook-was-paid-to-marry-woman/1119559

plus that marquez dude says he planned terror attack for 2012 but shelved the plans. and he told fbi he used to make pipe bombs as a hobby with farook.

WhoTF makes pipe bombs as a hobby??? what purpose would that serve if you can't even use them? not like they are objects of beauty or something

so shouldn't he be locked up forever after those confessions?

12/11/2015 11:04:02 PM

If Trump were President, this would never have happened.

12/11/2015 11:38:24 PM

dude, we live in a country were people think it's perfectly acceptable to have a hobby where you collect pistols, rifles, shotguns, etc and thousands upon thousands of rounds of ammo

what the fuck makes a pipe bomb hobby weird? because you can't buy them at wal-mart?

the ability to become a terrorist because you had a bad day is a god given right in murrica

[Edited on December 11, 2015 at 11:50 PM. Reason : .]

12/11/2015 11:49:59 PM

^^^
Lots of rural kids experimented with explosive devices...

We grew up in an era of legal fireworks.

12/12/2015 12:05:43 AM

^^^

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"If Trump were President, this would never have happened."

EXACTLY!!!

A Mexican planned an attack with a Muslim... dun dun dun! Groups that Trump hates equally!

^^ , ^

I am equally baffled by law-abiding citizens collecting thousands of rounds of ammo and dozens of guns... but at least with guns you can go fire them at a range or in the woods or go hunting. Or at the very least display them in your house and admire their beauty and craftsmanship.

But can you use a pipe bomb anywhere (legally or otherwise) without getting a visit from the authorities, unless you use it in some remote area with no one around? And my main issue is, if you can't or don't use them, unlike guns they are not objects of beauty or admiration... they look like pipe segments, can't be displayed, you are not going to spend time polishing or cleaning them, etc. What do you do with amassing them? (unless you are the type who is an extremist militia type or a super-extreme prepper or something)

12/12/2015 12:17:59 AM

no one 'collects' bombs for the hell of it. SOme people in rural ears may blow some stuff up on occasion, but that's ok.

I'm baffled by people that have snakes as pets, but as long as they aren't bother me, I don't care. Same with stockpiling guns and ammo. As long as you aren't a threat to me, I don't care. Millions of people have guns, and don't ever kill anyone, so of course it's not a gun problem.

And how can the gov't say one word about easy access to guns while they ship weapons all over the world? Do they think that the 'good' guys will use them, win the fight, and then melt them down? Why would we send even 1 gun to anyone? That's not our business. Too late though...the guns are already out there.

12/12/2015 9:12:27 AM

The concern about stockpiling guns and ammo is so silly. Yeah this couple had thousands of rounds of ammo but guess what? They aren't using thousands of rounds of ammo. They could have 100 guns but it doesn't fucking matter because you can't use 100 guns at one time anyways, you only have two hands. Just more stupid fear mongering from ignorant clowns.

12/12/2015 10:10:33 AM

12/12/2015 11:28:00 AM

^^
I think it's more about trying to build a profile of the kind of person to act on extremist views in a violent way.

12/12/2015 11:49:57 AM

And I would say that those things are not indicative of extremist behavior but someone with a fucking pipe bomb factory in their garage on the other hand...

Ammo is expensive. If you do a weekend training class you typically need at least 500 rounds and the most economical way to get that is to order in bulk when on sale. There is nothing alarming at all about someone having thousands of rounds of ammo or lots of guns.

12/12/2015 11:58:03 AM

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"There is nothing alarming to a reasonable person at all about someone having thousands of rounds of ammo or lots of guns."

FTFY

12/12/2015 1:27:07 PM

^^
Hence "build a profile".

It's definitely the case that someone planning a mass shooting is probably also going to be buying lots of bullets. If we were going to use data to search for shooters, it would make sense to cross reference these people with other factors (conservative ideologies, what they're posting on Facebook, what kind of weapons they have,etc).

The difficult or impossible part though is separating the nutters like doubledown who fit the profile of a violent extremist but is probably harmless and actual violent extremists. Maybe the 2 groups are the same and only some perceived slight separates them.

12/12/2015 1:35:37 PM

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2015/12/12/fire-at-california-mosque-being-investigated-as-possible-hate-crime-police-say/

What was JCE saying again?

12/12/2015 4:21:20 PM

lol so many folks freaking out over "thousands of rounds of ammo" like a thousand rounds is a lot

12/12/2015 10:04:27 PM

New evidence out that the wife openly posted violent comments on social media.

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"San Bernardino shooter Tashfeen Malik, 29, underwent three background checks and had her K-1 fiancee visa approved even though she openly posted about committing violent jihad on social media."

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/12/13/us/san-bernardino-attacks-us-visa-process-tashfeen-maliks-remarks-on-social-media-about-jihad-were-missed.html

12/13/2015 12:36:00 AM

^^^ Because calling someone out for exaggerating the truth at the time is the same as saying "No incidents of anti-muslim violence will ever happen, ever".

12/13/2015 6:17:05 PM

http://usuncut.com/news/there-have-been-23-hate-crimes-against-muslims-in-the-past-6-days/

Keep trying man. A lot harder.

12/13/2015 8:37:05 PM

A click-bait liberal media website says a statistically insignificant number of Muslims have been harassed? NO WAY

12/13/2015 9:55:35 PM

Out of curiosity, how many Muslims per day would need to be attacked, just for being Muslim, before you would say it's a problem?

12/13/2015 11:16:34 PM

I wouldn't say it isn't a problem. Just funny how the liberal media covers over it everything else to further a narrative. Still statistically insignificant.

12/13/2015 11:21:18 PM

OK, let's change it, then. How many Muslims per day would need to be attacked, just for being Muslim, before it would be newsworthy?

12/13/2015 11:38:34 PM

Anything more than average for a country with over 300 million people in it.

I don't think a rock being thrown through someone's window is newsworthy, no matter what narrative it plays to.

12/13/2015 11:49:25 PM

I mean we have mass shootings practically every day and nobody seems to want do much about it. Why should we start caring that we are seeing a spike in anti-Muslims intimidation/violence. It's just part of the left wing agenda to be offended about everything. Or something.

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/eye-on-football/25411274/sikh-fans-say-they-were-hassled-by-qualcomm-security-over-turbans

I know that JCE is probably too stupid to know the difference between Sikhs and Muslims, but these whiners should just get over it. Them being harassed at an NFL game is a statistically insignificant, so it's a non-issue.

[Edited on December 13, 2015 at 11:58 PM. Reason : .]

12/13/2015 11:53:04 PM

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"A click-bait liberal media website..."

You lose the right to complain about that when you post fucking Breitbart links.

12/14/2015 12:26:35 AM

I like how the goal posts are moving. First it was a false narrative that wasn't happening, now it's happening just not to enough people for JCE to care.

12/14/2015 1:21:51 AM

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"I know that JCE is probably too stupid to know the difference between Sikhs and Muslims, but these whiners should just get over it. Them being harassed at an NFL game is a statistically insignificant, so it's a non-issue. "

They got those swords tho

12/14/2015 7:14:51 AM

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"http://usuncut.com/news/there-have-been-23-hate-crimes-against-muslims-in-the-past-6-days/ Keep trying man. A lot harder."

Some of those are unsubstantiated claims, for example:

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"Washington, DC: U.S. Rep. André Carson (D-Ind.), one of only two Muslims members of Congress, received a death threat. Rep. Carson blamed the death threat on the “toxic environment” of US politics, created in part by Donald Trump’s escalating rhetoric targeting ethnic minorities."

Sounds like he's trying to take advantage for political gain...surely a politician would never do that.

12/14/2015 10:43:18 AM

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-35093799
French teacher invented Aubervilliers school attack

12/14/2015 2:13:23 PM

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" I like how the goal posts are moving. First it was a false narrative that wasn't happening, now it's happening just not to enough people for JCE to care."

Goal posts moving? lol

I live in reality. As of last week, in reality, there had been 1 mosque burning hate crime in America in the past 10 or so years. Moron made claims of mosques being burned that had no basis in reality.

Now I know reality is a hard concept for liberals, so I will try and make it simple. Reality changes as time passes. As things change, statements can become true and false. If I said in 2003 at the start of the NFL playoffs “The panthers will win the superbowl” then I was wrong. If the Panthers win the superbowl this year, I can’t reference my 2003 claim and say “see I told you” because that happened in the PAST and was WRONG.

I hope this helps. Cute that you try and portray this as me flip flopping.

[Edited on December 14, 2015 at 2:41 PM. Reason : .]

12/14/2015 2:40:27 PM

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"I like how the goal posts are moving. First it was a false narrative that wasn't happening, now it's happening just not to enough people for JCE to care."

Ha exactly. I wonder what his threshold for him to care is. Even 5 mosques burning to the ground sounds like a lot to me. Maybe it's 100 for JCE though. Since he's never personally seen it happen, I can imagine how skeptical he'd be. I, personally, have never seen a burning cross. Maybe I should wait to see one with my own eyes to be sure that it actually happened. Otherwise, it's just a white guilt narrative perpetuated by the liberal media to make whites feel shitty about stuff that happened a long time ago.

[Edited on December 14, 2015 at 2:42 PM. Reason : .]

12/14/2015 2:41:52 PM

^^ you obviously realize what you are saying is bullshit because you qualified your statement with "in America" when my original statement also included Europe (also worth pointing out, not that it makes a difference with you, that your claim in that post of only 1 arson is completely wrong).

12/14/2015 2:51:57 PM

Oh, so now this quote that "never happened" suddenly did and you remember it? I like how the goal posts keep moving.

12/14/2015 2:57:00 PM

Whatever man. You have a tendency to minimize events (hello, trans thread) and then when people post articles demonstrating that they are, indeed, happening you either backpedal or try to minimize it by saying "oh, well I didn't say they NEVER happened- I just said they don't happen often"

you're such a fool. it's embarrassing.

here's another incident:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2015/12/14/police-7th-grader-calls-muslim-schoolmate-son-of-isis-threatens-to-shoot-and-kill-him/?tid=sm_fb

[Edited on December 14, 2015 at 3:20 PM. Reason : asdf]

12/14/2015 3:13:33 PM

^ that should go in the white American TERRORIST thread. what a dipshit.

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"http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-35093799 French teacher invented Aubervilliers school attack"

that dude should be put away for 10 years. racial/religious incitement to violence is not a joke.

12/14/2015 4:20:49 PM

Yeah prison works

12/14/2015 4:40:58 PM

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"Whatever man. You have a tendency to minimize events "

I have a tendency to separate actual problems (Mosque burned) from false-narratives (Ahmmed clock boy, Mizzou protest) - something most TWW liberals cannot differentiate between.

I have a tendency to take all these liberal sob story articles with a grain of salt, because facts and truths are secondary to creating a narrative and pushing an agenda. They only report and sensationalize "stories" where a "tragedy" can be used for political leverage, aka only when the victim narrative is perpetuated. It's slimy, it's dishonest, I don't get how it can be called "journalism". It's the same reason this thread is called "20+ shot near san bernadino planned parenthoof" because liberals are so excited to use tragedy for political points that the truth is a secondary objective. It's all just an attempt to hand pick cases, regardless of statistical or historical significance, stretch the truth to appeal to the emotions of gullible readers that have been in an echo chamber so long they don't even think twice.

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"try to minimize it by saying "oh, well I didn't say they NEVER happened- I just said they don't happen often"

That isn't how I "try to minimize it", that is how I try and explain to someone with poor reading comprehension ability such as yourself. Nobody disagrees Islamaphobia or racism exists, but that is such a common straw man response (from you in particular... despite your tendency to call me stupid).

If the "victim's" profile fits the current liberal narrative being pushed, the liberal media will hype it up, tell you to be outraged, then you get your panties in a bunch and start spamming hashtags to show how much you "care". I'm sure there have been several churches/temples/synagogues burnt in addition to the 1 mosque burnt this past year. Does pointing this out mean I hate Muslims or think Islamaphobia doesn't exist? No, it means I am trying to put things in perspective rather than getting outraged because the HuffingtonPost told me to.

12/14/2015 5:30:13 PM

What fucking 'perspective' are you talking about?

People are being harassed and intimidated and you think it's statistically insignificant, so it's not a big deal. Sorry dude, but just because you haven't personally been a victim of ignorant hatred doesn't mean that other people should just accept it as a part of life. You are insinuating that the people who've come forward and talked about the harassment they've faced are perpetuating a liberal agenda, just for the sake of being political. You're blaming innocent victims and suggesting that they're in on some kind of hoax.

I honestly think you're just a troll at this point, because even aaron fucking burro isn't buying your bullshit.

12/14/2015 6:13:24 PM

Some more details about that shady Marquez character.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/friend-of-san-bernardino-shooter-is-at-center-of-fbi-investigation/2015/12/13/13c53a1c-a1b6-11e5-b53d-972e2751f433_story.html

12/14/2015 6:51:09 PM

A perspective that is not just regurgitated garbage that HuffingtonPost spoon feeds you.

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"People are being harassed and intimidated and you think it's statistically insignificant, so it's not a big deal"

No, I think it is less of a big deal than problems that are statistically more significant.

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"Sorry dude, but just because you haven't personally been a victim of ignorant hatred doesn't mean that other people should just accept it as a part of life."

Where did I suggest that they should?

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"You are insinuating that the people who've come forward and talked about the harassment they've faced are perpetuating a liberal agenda, just for the sake of being political. "

I'm critiquing the media, not the victims.

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"You're blaming innocent victims and suggesting that they're in on some kind of hoax. "

Only in a few cases like the Ahmed clock and Mizzou protest.

12/14/2015 6:54:31 PM

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2015/12/15/gun-wielding-bandit-calls-indian-immigrant-terrorist-before-shooting-him-in-the-face/

12/15/2015 5:35:21 PM

That happened just once. Statistically insignificant and just part of a liberal narrative.

12/15/2015 6:02:08 PM

Stepping away from the JCE-is-an-idiot discussion a bit, but this is a strange story:
http://abcnews.go.com/US/bogus-email-threatening-nyc-los-angeles/story?id=35783878

Someone trying to intimidate NY and LA school districts. Seems like it's probably a bored kid, smart enough to use a proxy, not smart enough to know how actual terrorists talk.

12/15/2015 6:09:43 PM

They should close the schools. Then in the name of National Security to protect us from the scary Turrists we should hand over privacy and freedoms to the government allowing them to hack our devices to allow them to catch the turrirsts!



http://money.cnn.com/2015/12/15/technology/isis-encryption/index.html?iid=hp-stack-dom

That is what this article from CNN is implying. Nice hidden propraganda piece.

If you have nothing to hide then you should have nothing to worry about when Big Brother monitors your electronic communication. AM I RITE

12/15/2015 8:23:05 PM

^ pretty much all the GOP candidates except Paul support wire tapping. Fiorina bragged about letting NSA install backdoors in HP products, Cruz bragged about supporting a new bill that lets 100% of all phone calls get collected.

12/15/2015 10:14:45 PM

Not like Hil Dog would be much different

12/15/2015 11:22:17 PM