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I wasn't even trying ] 2/12/2010 2:06:52 PM |
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shmorri2 All American 10003 Posts user info edit post |
I'M AT THE TOP OF PAGE 1000!!! failed oh so miserably
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jethromoore All American 2529 Posts user info edit post |
I realize this thread is about those who have started their own company.... which I have not. Hear me out, maybe I can offer some insight.
I am in outside sales, which is currently salary+commission, but will move into straight commission starting at the beginning of July 2010. I have been in this position since July 2009. I have competition from several direct manufacturing sales reps, large distributors, and local distributors. Here are the advantages and disadvantages of each:
Direct Advantages: Immediate knowledge of new technology, no middle man mark up, one shipping bill (paid by manufacturer or buyer of goods), access to larger range of non-commodity items, control inventory, have access to many distributors that can effectively sell their goods which increases market share, and set prices of commodity they manufacture.
Direct disadvantages: Typically have 1-3 sales reps per region (i.e. southeast, mid-atlantic, northeast, etc.) limiting the number of accounts they can successfully manage/cold-call, lack physical customer service or physical technical service available to or affordable for smaller users or altogether, are sometimes not trustworthy because they will go in behind their distributors that sell their commodity to one account in large quantities (i.e. they missed a big account, and have found out about it through a distributor selling their particular product) which leads to the distributor not selling their product anymore, have too many distributors selling the product ultimately driving the set price down through deviations, possibly rely on distributors to actually sell the product, and competition from other direct sources.
Large distributor advantages: have access to other commodities that go hand in hand with other manufacturers (poor example- grocery stores sell milk as well as cereal), get direct pricing, many locations regionally or nationally easing the shipping burden of buyers with multiple locations, personal service either customer or technical, many sales reps that are able to cover a broader territory, access to multiple manufacturers of the same commodity allowing to keep prices in check, service programs that smaller companies can't offer and direct providers can't match in price or value, and experts of many many commodities as opposed to one or a few.
Large distributor disadvantages: smaller local distributors creating price wars (think Michael Scott Paper Co vs Dunder-Mifflin), direct mfg's going in behind and stealing business, limited access to all of the mfg's (you won't find Harris Teeter name brands in Food Lion and visa versa), can't truly set prices because it's based on both supply and demand, territory management, and tough growth prospects in slower economies (this is true for direct as well really)
Local distributor advantages: Typically a good ol' boy setting where the seller and the buyer know each other for years (this does happen at all levels, but mostly at the local level), local folks are right down the street and can be used in emergencies, if the local guy buys at high enough volumes then there is no shipping charge to the end user, and access to both direct mfg's and large distributors.
Local distributor disadvantages: easily beaten in price, array of commodities, array of technology, lack of trained staff, low cash flow, etc etc etc.
This is what I have noticed in my six months, I am sure there are plenty more that need mentioning. The way I am setting myself apart as a sales person is this: I go after the big accounts right now while I am new. The big accounts, if I land them, will take care of me while I am new and building a customer base. The money made off of those allows me to focus free time on smaller accounts that get me higher margins. I build up big accounts, I would like to have 5-10 of these, then get 20-30 medium accounts. If I lose 1 or 2 big accounts, the 20-30 medium accounts keep me afloat while I go after new big accounts. I don't really waste time on small accounts simply because they basically pay for breakfast or something really small.
I will say this, if you can't get a big account in the first 6-8 months (assuming you have cash flow that you can ride this long) you could be in a world of trouble. If you can get one, it will really make going after the others a lot more enjoyable and less stressful. It's simply just very exhausting wasting any time on anything other than big accounts in the very beginning. You work just as hard on the medium sized accounts and see 1/3 to 1/36 of the money in my situation.
If you have any other questions, you can PM me. I hope this helps in the slightest! 2/12/2010 2:07:01 PM |
sawahash All American 35321 Posts user info edit post |
I have this house to myself all weekend...but I have no money and no food 2/12/2010 2:07:04 PM |
wawebste All American 19599 Posts user info edit post |
bored
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ScHpEnXeL Suspended 32613 Posts user info edit post |
nice..
[Edited on February 12, 2010 at 2:07 PM. Reason : fuck you tww] 2/12/2010 2:07:12 PM |
Kiwi All American 38546 Posts user info edit post |
YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY 2/12/2010 2:07:15 PM |
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dropdeadkate nerdlord 11725 Posts user info edit post |
OMFG THAT MEME ALSDKFJALSDFJKA;SLDKFJASDF 2/12/2010 2:07:28 PM |
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2/12/2010 2:07:50 PM |
shmorri2 All American 10003 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I have this house to myself all weekend...but I have no money and no food" |
If only I didn't have to work all weekend... 2/12/2010 2:08:08 PM |
tjoshea All American 4906 Posts user info edit post |
i hate you thumper 2/12/2010 2:09:34 PM |
thumper All American 21574 Posts user info edit post |
my original post was SET UP PAGE 1000 and when it went through it was at the top i wasn't trying i swear! 2/12/2010 2:10:01 PM |
Squirt All American 5656 Posts user info edit post |
Holy crap! In two weeks I'll be embryologist... I can't believe my mom will be flying in two weeks from now and I can't believe I am going to be moving
Ohhhh I might need to reserve an UHaul... doing that after this post! 2/12/2010 2:18:32 PM |
H8R wear sumthin tight 60155 Posts user info edit post |
IOP1K
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IRON SERAPH LIVES 2/12/2010 2:31:25 PM |
tjoshea All American 4906 Posts user info edit post |
2/12/2010 2:32:39 PM |
dropdeadkate nerdlord 11725 Posts user info edit post |
baaaahahaha i just found a tetris game that has naked women in it. i love google. 2/12/2010 2:35:27 PM |
Kiwi All American 38546 Posts user info edit post |
Quickest way of make $600 evar. hahaha 2/12/2010 2:41:23 PM |
H8R wear sumthin tight 60155 Posts user info edit post |
back alley? 2/12/2010 2:41:53 PM |
Kiwi All American 38546 Posts user info edit post |
So Squirt, you moving to Florida then? Congrats! 2/12/2010 2:43:18 PM |
thegoodlife3 All American 39178 Posts user info edit post |
why Kelly Clarkson?
why? 2/12/2010 2:45:32 PM |
th3oretecht All American 15539 Posts user info edit post |
In on page 1000 2/12/2010 2:46:16 PM |
Squirt All American 5656 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "So Squirt, you moving to Florida then? Congrats! " |
Yes in two weeks.. I am stoked! And Lucyinthesky is gonna be my runnins partner
Thanks though I appreciate it! tww has a vacay spot in Orlando 2/12/2010 2:54:33 PM |
Kiwi All American 38546 Posts user info edit post |
That's awesome! I was in Orlando last week and it was fucking cold! haha You're in for an adventure! 2/12/2010 2:59:22 PM |
saps852 New Recruit 80068 Posts user info edit post |
"hey, you must be scotts mom"
"i'm scotts girlfriend"
doh! 2/12/2010 3:00:22 PM |
Squirt All American 5656 Posts user info edit post |
Thats awesome... I have been really apprehensive about the move since NC i mean Raleigh has been my home for so long... But this will be a good move... I just have a good feeling about it
Thanks for the support 2/12/2010 3:02:40 PM |
Kiwi All American 38546 Posts user info edit post |
Word, moving is fun, I've moved every 2 yrs since I was 18. It's neat to find out stuff about new places.
You bringing the bf or is he now old news? lol! 2/12/2010 3:03:37 PM |
BubbleBobble :3 114218 Posts user info edit post |
damn I had a window open for this shit and forgot about it
in on 1000 2/12/2010 3:10:42 PM |
slingblade All American 12133 Posts user info edit post |
IOP1000 2/12/2010 3:15:01 PM |
ambrosia1231 eeeeeeeeeevil 76471 Posts user info edit post |
...sudafed
thank god I remembered that shit 2/12/2010 3:33:24 PM |
sawahash All American 35321 Posts user info edit post |
I wish I had some damn money 2/12/2010 3:34:48 PM |
thumper All American 21574 Posts user info edit post |
^If you can go 72 hours without posting on TWW I will Paypal you 5 Dollar Bucks. 2/12/2010 3:36:49 PM |
sawahash All American 35321 Posts user info edit post |
lol well in 72 hours I'll have money... 2/12/2010 3:37:51 PM |
jtmartin All American 4116 Posts user info edit post |
page 1000! 2/12/2010 3:50:49 PM |
LovedYoMoma All American 5419 Posts user info edit post |
Disconnect and self destruct one bullet at a time What's your rush now, everyone will have his day to die 2/12/2010 3:51:33 PM |
Squirt All American 5656 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "You bringing the bf or is he now old news? lol!" |
Ummm he is staying behind That's been kinda tough... but hopefully while i find some happiness, he will too whatever he decides to do...2/12/2010 4:15:30 PM |
zxappeal All American 26824 Posts user info edit post |
The endings are the toughest thing in the world I think...even when you know logically it's the best thing. 2/12/2010 4:16:26 PM |
arog20012001 All American 10023 Posts user info edit post |
^^wow. The big O, huh? Good luck. Check out PR's Taco Palace and Johnny's Fillin' Station for some good eats. I lived there for almost 2 years. You're in for an experience, that's for sure. I'm happy that you followed your dreams.
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ambrosia1231 eeeeeeeeeevil 76471 Posts user info edit post |
7 pm simply cannot come fast enough
omg 2/12/2010 4:23:37 PM |
Squirt All American 5656 Posts user info edit post |
chya... But honestly I am actually looking forward to finding new friends, although I'll terribly miss my friends I have now...
But I get to work on a career path that I have been wanting for a long time... 2/12/2010 4:26:06 PM |
saps852 New Recruit 80068 Posts user info edit post |
wooooooo snowing here! 2/12/2010 4:28:25 PM |
elkaybie All American 39626 Posts user info edit post |
sweet...Mandy and Travis won't be here til 7/7:30 so I got more time that I thought to get this house in order.
good lunch w/ mom...good visit with the parents
and I got a dozen roses 2/12/2010 4:32:25 PM |
saps852 New Recruit 80068 Posts user info edit post |
snow + wine + olympics + a pizza maybe = fun
i feel like i want something else for the evening, hmmmmmmmm 2/12/2010 4:50:10 PM |
saps852 New Recruit 80068 Posts user info edit post |
3" tonight!
if only my droid came today this would be the best night evar!!!!! 2/12/2010 5:05:44 PM |
saps852 New Recruit 80068 Posts user info edit post |
the snow thread sucks because of all the imbeds, so ima just post it here
coming down like crazy here, already sticking 2/12/2010 5:22:41 PM |
EMCE balls deep 89740 Posts user info edit post |
hey saps 2/12/2010 5:23:24 PM |
saps852 New Recruit 80068 Posts user info edit post |
heeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeey 2/12/2010 5:24:34 PM |
sawahash All American 35321 Posts user info edit post |
someone sent flowers here...on the card is has the right address but the person they sent them to doesn't live here...I wonder if I should keep them or if I should call the florist and tell them about the mix up 2/12/2010 5:24:37 PM |