10/8/2010 7:44:14 AM

For the lazy onlookers

10/8/2010 7:50:05 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yHTdlxDnEEk&feature=player_embedded

10/8/2010 8:22:48 AM

lol, since it was brought up in here... nice headline on ESPN's front page about Graves

Quote :

"Tar Heels 3-point wizard Graves kicked off team"

37% makes him a wizard?

10/8/2010 8:31:02 AM

10/8/2010 8:38:06 AM

N&O Editorial today, titled Beyond 'taint'

http://www.newsobserver.com/2010/10/08/727603/beyond-taint.html

10/8/2010 8:57:40 AM

^^^, ^^ Hold on you guys, don't let the red glasses shield your vision from common sense. A 37% career 3 point FG average is pretty fucking good. He's no JJ Redick, but hitting a three at least once out of every 3 shots is something most players can't do.





And Royboy's pointing out that this has nothing to do with the football investigation? Priceless.

[Edited on October 8, 2010 at 9:01 AM. Reason : .]

10/8/2010 9:00:32 AM

it's not bad, but it's not like he was anywhere close to 3pt leaders in the country. I think you'd have to be in the top 100 before you were a wizard

[Edited on October 8, 2010 at 9:14 AM. Reason : esp college 3pt]

10/8/2010 9:09:35 AM

its relative to the rest of the team

10/8/2010 9:15:48 AM

was Graves the one who was like the only person on team last year who could actually shoot? If he was dismissed that is actually a big deal because he was really clutch for them, they would have lost a lot more than they did if it weren't for him.

10/8/2010 9:27:01 AM

Quote :

"Graves was let go because of Grades. He was borderline after the spring and summer. And with what he's done so far this semester and with all the academic investigations going on, they said, bye bye. "

You really believe that a senior was kicked off the team his last year because his grades??? College kids don't get dumber. Out of all the dumbass athletes that struggle maintaining grades they pick this guy on UNCs most beloved sport???

Sounds to me like they are trying to make UNC basketball a sport at UNC that "cares more about the grade than the sport." Please.

Quote :

"Majoring in sociology."

This is damage control at its finest.

[Edited on October 8, 2010 at 9:34 AM. Reason : -s]

[Edited on October 8, 2010 at 9:39 AM. Reason : please]

10/8/2010 9:33:32 AM

Quote :

"Sounds to me like they are trying to make UNC basketball a sport at UNC that "cares more about the grade than the sport." Please. "

i don't have a problem with them claiming to have high standards and upholding them

i do have a problem with them claiming to have high standards and cheating

[Edited on October 8, 2010 at 9:38 AM. Reason : -]

10/8/2010 9:37:12 AM

fuck...should have found a damn verified source before I started talking shit. didnt realize the source saying it was grades was fucking killpups. UNC fans seem to think it was for pot, which hes been suspended for previously

10/8/2010 9:55:11 AM

This got buried at the bottom of page 100 ... it's a poll asking if Butch should be fired on the Triangle Biz Journal website. I'm voting yes (again)


http://www.bizjournals.com/triangle/poll/index.html?poll_id=36651&ana=e_du_pap

10/8/2010 9:58:35 AM

Roy is resigning after this coming season.

I think I wanna open a popcorn booth on hillsborough st. hehehehe


Oh and ya'll can let go of that "they don't have any shooters" theory.

Bullock has that role on lock down. But with only 10 scholly players, they'll hit the wall sooner than later.

The NC State/ UNC basketball rivalry will heat back up this year. State is looking damn good.

[Edited on October 8, 2010 at 10:05 AM. Reason : .]

10/8/2010 10:02:44 AM

killpups stop. just stop.

10/8/2010 10:06:22 AM

I'd rather have BEU make a million unfunny videos than entertain killpups' nonsense

go. away.

10/8/2010 10:29:02 AM

MODS: CAN WE SUSPEND ANY SPORTS TALK USER THAT USES "HEHEHEHEHE" IN THEIR POST? (exception: people quoting other people)

10/8/2010 10:32:52 AM

I say extend it to "hehe", "haha", "lol", "lulz", "lmao", or "rotfl" as well

10/8/2010 10:35:12 AM

Quote :

"however many ^^^ "some sooners allege" he destroyed recruiting records? that's pretty weak, but not necessarily false. still, he was never convicted of it (i say convicted because i don't know what word the ncaa uses). he called aikman racist and gay. ok, not very smart, but that doesn't make him dirty. he worked for programs that had recruiting violations. obviously the big one, but again, if the ncaa did due diligence and didn't find him guilty of anything, what's the problem? i'm not trying to say he's definitely innocent of past transgressions because in light of the current situation he's probably not, but when he was hired there was only a lot of smoke and no fire. as i said, i wish butch would've exercised more judgment with him, but if he was basing it on ncaa violations, there were none. "

Before his UNC stint one of the first things that would pop up when you googled John Blake was an article describing him bringing wichard into his locker room and on his sidelines and the NCAA investigation which resulted from that. IF I CAN FIND THE INFORMATION WTF ARE THEY TRYING TO SAY! No one in the entire athletic department know how to use a computer? So what if the NCAA found no actual violations the first time. The fact that the NCAA was concerned enough to make a visit is certainly a "red flag". The fact that Blake is still doing the same thing is absolutely laughable.

10/8/2010 10:57:09 AM

for the love of mike, please keep the unc mascot keeper's death outta here

10/8/2010 11:34:25 AM

^ he knew too much about the investigation. He had to be silenced.

10/8/2010 12:02:34 PM

didn't he literally fall off his tractor? i thought tractors were reserved for NCSU people?

10/8/2010 12:28:53 PM

Well, he did graduate from State

10/8/2010 12:34:16 PM

Quote :

"As the NCAA investigates and as more information rolls out, or is demanded under public records laws by The News & Observer and The Charlotte Observer Yahoo! Sports, that's looking like something of an understatement."

Fixed that for you, N&O editorial staff

10/8/2010 1:33:15 PM

So the big PackPride insider who has been hitting bullseye with all his information says that Butch is gone after the Duke. Apparently this was decided at the BOG meeting yesterday.

Apparently there is also a 2 page thread on IC Premium that says the same thing and it hasn't been deleted yet.

I don't see why they would wait honestly. And if it leaks, hopefully they'll just go ahead and pull the trigger.

10/8/2010 1:50:53 PM

indeed. get the popcorn ready.

Quote :

"Holden Thorp has been told "Fire Butch Davis or you will be Fired with him.""

10/8/2010 2:14:30 PM

by who? source?

10/8/2010 2:34:21 PM

WafflemotherfuckingIron.

10/8/2010 2:38:06 PM

Quote :

"Holden Thorp has been told "Fire Butch Davis or you will be Fired with him."

...but we'll give you until after the Duke game.

Not seeing it.

10/8/2010 2:39:01 PM

I don't want to be Debbie Downer, but that's not exactly a bold prediction. I mean, the writing on the wall says that Davis is gone. The logical time to do so is at the end of the season to try and prevent the exponential increase of stress, confusion, discontinuity, and bad press around your program.

I know that WaffleIron has been spot on in a few instances, but he was also one of the ones that was claiming "biblical" punishment coming down several weeks ago, and we've yet to see anything come to fruition. If Davis is fired at the end of the season, then he looks like a true "insider," if not, then there's enough time between now and than that "things can change."

I get the feeling he's Miss Cleo'ing everybody.

10/8/2010 2:42:51 PM

Quote :

"...but we'll give you until after the Duke game. Not seeing it."

they gave Blake until after the LSU game

10/8/2010 2:49:53 PM

^The insiders have been claiming biblical punishment...but they never say when. The one time recently that one of them predicted something was the week before the Tutor got outed...and they were just a few days off. Same thing happened with the Yahoo! article on the Wichard and Blake payments. They said a national media outlet was about to come up with something big and kept saying "follow the money."

This one seems valid because there was BIG Board of Governor's meeting yesterday, and after that meeting there were no more "rah rah rahs" from Thorpe and Baddour. After this meeting, they mentioned that the investigation would take much longer, that bad news would be coming of it, and the general tone was just completely different than what it had been.

The only thing I'm questioning is...if you've already made the decision, why not just go ahead and fire him?? And if you want to wait...now that shit is leaking, you might as well go ahead and do it now. This should be an interesting couple of weeks.

10/8/2010 2:51:22 PM

You guys are too hasty. They have ALL the reason in the world to take their time with firing him.

1. The media circus is picking up a bit, but its still small potatoes for those not involved with the ACC. Fire your coach and you bring more attention to yourselves. The NCAA investigation will take a year, so methinks there will be a slow trickle of info until then, which will keep this on the low.

2. They can still do decently this season if the stars align for them. Fire your coach and you lose any chance you have. Correct me if I am wrong, but as long as they don't play ineligible players, they can "keep" this season and any bowls associated with it, correct?

3. OK, say they hear about all this alleged corruption in the program and they immediately fired Butch. What would happen if they then found similar corruption with another sport, say Basketball. You immediately fired your last coach they found with that problem. You would look pretty hypocritical if you did not immediately fire Williams as well. Williams is the coach they want in the sport they want. They are just being cautious. Their players are dumb, not their administration.

10/8/2010 3:17:26 PM

About time to break this baby out again

10/8/2010 3:50:49 PM

10/8/2010 4:00:15 PM

Ya'll seriously need to learn how to celebrate. Stop worrying about what people think of state fans enjoying the downfall of unc.

-Lack of institutional control - imminent

-Best defensive player gone - done

-Best offensive player gone - done

-Other very good players missing games - done

- Butch to be run out of town - the fat lady is about to sing

- Baddour run out of town - imminent

- unc academic prestige permanently scarred - done

- general failure of cultivation of a football culture in chapel hill - done

- investigations spilling over into basketball - see graves dissmisal/ imminent

- daily parades in the streets of raleigh - crickets

Let loose people. They are done. Its ok to feel good about this, I promise.

10/8/2010 4:00:53 PM

^I agree with most of that, although I'm pretty sure Graves liked to smoke weed more than he liked to cheat on term papers, and I've heard the other sport the investigation is spilling into is baseball, not basketball

10/8/2010 4:06:57 PM

i would say that you're right

and so am i

its all good

the hill will soon be the filthy valley of despair

can you truely invision how good its going to feel to see all those douchebags hang their heads when the gavel drops on that ass. lol Im thinking about starting a facebook page about organizing an actual parade

Pushing a quarter-million views on one thread from a single website. Yeah, its on. But Im thinkin late night for the parade. lol Im thinkin Dixie Lane. We can all gather in the parking lot of Crowley's and march over wade all the way down to east village and hillsborough st. lol


[Edited on October 8, 2010 at 4:33 PM. Reason : .]

10/8/2010 4:09:22 PM

I'd be fine if this investigation uprooted the UNC baseball program and left the basketball program intact. NCAA sanctions wouldn't really hurt UNC basketball long-term, but it could tear apart the improvements they've made in baseball.

10/8/2010 6:32:32 PM

Quote :

"Junior fullback Devon Ramsay will be held out of today's game against Clemson for his involvement in the academic prong of the ongoing NCAA investigation, according to sources close to the situation."

MORE PLAYERS SUSPENDED

10/9/2010 1:29:05 PM

id buy a shirt that emphasized the prongs lol

10/9/2010 1:29:55 PM

Got to love it when there is an archive on WRAL for this:
http://www.wralsportsfan.com/unc/page/7989989/

10/9/2010 3:16:55 PM

did ramsey play any other games?

you have to think that UNC is gonna have to forfeit their wins from this season if he did.

10/9/2010 4:03:41 PM

^ Yep, he sure did.




They're going to have to forfeit wins anyway



http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=5665855

Quote :

"Ramsay had played in all of the Tar Heels' previous four games, catching two passes for 15 yards. Baddour said he hopes the NCAA will not consider forcing North Carolina to forfeit its two victories because Ramsay played in them."

[Edited on October 9, 2010 at 4:17 PM. Reason : hahahahahahaha]

10/9/2010 4:05:43 PM

If they are going to vacate wins for Ramsay, they should just play everyone. Fuck it,

10/9/2010 4:10:48 PM

some UNC alum friends of mine tell me how all these people piss in the Old Well and stuff, yet dumb ass Tar Heels continue to drink out of it

10/9/2010 4:15:56 PM

ive pissed in it a many a time.

10/9/2010 4:24:02 PM

So UNC is 0-17 right now, over the past 2 seasons?



ahahahahaha

10/9/2010 4:34:59 PM

page lol

10/9/2010 4:37:24 PM