Andrea's sister got bit and turned, among others. I don't think you have to get a fatal bite to turn.

Didn't Dale get bit too, then they put a bullet in his head before he turned?

Plus they're always asking people "DID YOU GET BIT?!" because it's important

[Edited on October 20, 2014 at 9:21 PM. Reason : .]

10/20/2014 9:19:04 PM

Yeah any bite will turn you....at least that's what we've been shown so far in the show, right?

Wonder if there's any connection between the priest and the guys that got Beth...with the cross on their car? Probably not, but that cross on the car did make me wonder.

10/20/2014 9:22:19 PM

Getting bit makes you sick and die then turn, unless you can amputate first (if possible). Hershel was bit, but they cut off his leg in time which is why I think it has to do with a viral load. Dr. Jenner from the CDC explained its different for each person. For some it takes many hours while others it is much shorter - here he was referring to how long it takes you to turn after you die form a bite or scratch. Jim is another good example (I think his name is Jim, bro from the camp) - he really didn't have that bad of a bite, but over the next day or so he kept getting sicker and sicker. So it makes sense for Bob to not look well by nightfall if he got bit or scratched, but not to have died yet.

Dale was disemboweled by a zombie, so he's a different story all together.

[Edited on October 20, 2014 at 11:52 PM. Reason : .]

10/20/2014 11:49:48 PM

^Yeah that's right. Good point about the varying time it may take for a bite to turn somebody. I wasn't really thinking about that.

10/21/2014 8:30:16 AM

Bites cause a bacterial infection. That is what kills them. Not the virus/whatever that turns them into zombies. That is why they can survive if they quickly amputate a bitten limb or whatnot.

10/21/2014 9:28:56 AM

^that was my impression. bite from a disgusting zombie mouth crawling with bacteria causes a bad infection, no sterile hospital conditions or antibiotics are available to treat it, bacterial infection causes fever and eventual death, zombie virus kicks in and the dead walks.

[Edited on October 21, 2014 at 9:41 AM. Reason : ]

10/21/2014 9:40:08 AM

So much for my The Walking Bob spin off idea :/

If I saw the previews correctly, it looks like the Hunters return Bob one-legged (dead or alive, idk), in what I assume to be a scare tactic to the rest of the group. I hope Rick flips out again and the Hunters become the Hunted. I like the pacing of this season so far, but I feel that it is going to slow down b/c of Beth's story, and we may not see the Hunter's story end until mid season at the earliest. Maybe the second half of the season, they will begin their journey to D.C. and/or meet up with Morgan.

My revised guess for deaths this season: Bob, Beth, Rosita

10/21/2014 10:16:24 AM

I don't disagree at all with the analysis that eating Bob's flesh wouldn't be an issue, I think everything that's been said is definitely consistent with what's happened in the show so far.

I would still point out though, that they definitely were making something of a deal about Bob acting weird after being pulled underwater, whether he was bitten or not. Now that he's been taken by the Termites and is being eaten, what would it matter if he had been bitten (if that doesn't matter to the people eating him)? They could have easily given him another reason to go outside for a walk other than, "I've been bitten so I'm going outside alone"

10/21/2014 10:19:38 AM

^I am very curious how the writers play this one out, I am also going back and forth trying to decide why Bob was so distraught and what that means for the psycho-cannibels

10/21/2014 11:17:41 AM

this dude for some reason reminded me of Glenn Close in Hook

10/21/2014 11:20:27 AM

^Wow, I never knew that was Glenn Close haha. This is who I thought of initially:

10/21/2014 11:43:02 AM

I disagree about the bites simply causing a bacterial infection. If that were the case, people with readily available antibiotics could've tried to prevent infection. The main reason I don't think it's a bacterial infection has to do with the very similar course for those who are bitten. Some bites were not that bad - if I remember correctly, Jim from the camp had a relatively small bite and yet he still had the same course as all those who had also been bitten where they couldn't amputate. They also specifically say the reaction to getting bit or scratched is different than anything anyone had ever seen, particularly with the fever getting so bad. I believe it was Morgan who described his wife as being insanely hot when she started crashing after her bite. If it were due to an infection, you would expect them to have the symptoms T dawg had when he got the bad scratch off the car mirror. He truly did have a bacterial infection, and the antibiotics saved his life.

Also, I don't understand the logic of arguing that bacterial infections are the cause and that's why amputating helps. Amputating a limb is a huge risk of infection in the environment they're in, which is another argument for it being due to viral load. Or, maybe I'm being trolled.

And if you don't think antibiotics would be readily available, remember that Merle's antibiotics for his chlamydia saved T dawg.

[Edited on October 21, 2014 at 9:38 PM. Reason : My husband keeps reminding me it's just a TV show]

10/21/2014 9:32:37 PM

i assumed that everyone is affected by a small amount of the Z-virus (or whatever) but it's at a level that their bodies can control it and remain asymptomatic... when bitten, it overwhelms the immune system with a high virus load that leads to death/zombification.

[Edited on October 22, 2014 at 8:42 AM. Reason : ]

10/22/2014 8:41:49 AM

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"If it were due to an infection, you would expect them to have the symptoms T dawg had when he got the bad scratch off the car mirror. He truly did have a bacterial infection, and the antibiotics saved his life."

Because all bacterial infections have the same symptoms. Also maybe the zombie mouth bacteria are antibiotic resistant? I mean I don't know, it just seems way more logical than a bite causing a virus you already have to kill you.

It makes no sense that the same virus that everyone is already infected with would only make them get sick and die when they are bitten by a zombie. But I guess that's like real life, where if you have HIV and an AIDS patient bites you, you become Tom Hanks from Philadelphia.

in other zombie universes, sure let's call it a virus, but in the walking dead they've made it clear each person is already infected with the virus that makes them turn, regardless of if they get bit or not. So you people are telling me that a virus that people can live a perfectly normal life while being infected with it will suddenly cause the extreme symptoms seen by bite victims just because the person got bit? No thanks I'll stick to my antibiotic resistant super bacteria causing the burning fevers and death.

10/22/2014 10:00:37 AM

I imagine antibiotics are hard to come by now... and finding a few here or there wouldn't do any good.

10/22/2014 10:05:52 AM

i think it does make sense that the body can keep a low level of the pathogen under control but then when they get a massive influx from a bite their immune system wouldn't be able to keep up.

10/22/2014 11:16:18 AM

What if someone with HPV gets bitten by someone with cervical cancer?

10/22/2014 12:01:16 PM

genital wart zombies.

10/22/2014 1:04:41 PM

Hey guys I'm going to be stuck at work Sunday after next at 9pm but I will have internet access. Is there a way for me to live stream the show?

10/23/2014 7:34:38 AM

yes the internet



you guys realize you are applying real world logic to a horribly written show right?

10/23/2014 9:10:31 AM

yes.

BUT WHAT IF THE ZOMBIES HAD LASERS?

10/23/2014 10:01:38 AM

written much better than most tv shows (at least the ones I can stomach to watch)

[Edited on October 23, 2014 at 10:15 AM. Reason : of course, I've always enjoyed Romero's cheese]

10/23/2014 10:14:41 AM

10/26/2014 9:14:46 PM

lol at the DirecTV description in the guide this week: "A group of nasty people."

10/26/2014 9:14:49 PM

Fucking directv didn't record this ep tonight. Grrrrrr

10/26/2014 9:18:10 PM

Are they really not going to use the nightvision scope again during this episode?

10/26/2014 9:28:59 PM

....


those dudes' plan was to just walk into the church and start demanding? really? that was their plan?

10/26/2014 9:46:09 PM

guess they just thought it was mostly the weak ones

im glad it went down how it did

10/26/2014 9:47:17 PM

yea I like it too. not gonna lie

Rick is turning into Shane. That was a Shane move. Old rick would have talked him out of that

10/26/2014 9:50:09 PM

So for the comic readers...was Father Gabriel's HUGE SECRET that he had locked people out of the church? Seemed pretty obvious based on the fingernail marks and YOU WILL BURN FOR THIS text that Carl pointed out. Is he really just some good person who made the mistake of locking people out of the church? Last week, without wanting to know Gabriel's "dark secret" and therefore not digging too far, I got the gist that Gabriel from the comics was a "fan favorite" so now I wonder why. Just seems like a pussy, added to the show to keep The Wire quota.

10/26/2014 10:34:23 PM

^^ He did what was necessary. Never mind the justice of it all.

[Edited on October 26, 2014 at 10:43 PM. Reason : Rick, that is. Not the preacher.]

10/26/2014 10:34:53 PM

the teaser for next week looks good

10/26/2014 10:35:03 PM

^^^ Since it was asked, this is comic talk but no spoilers really.


Yes, that's all Father Gabriel did. It wasn't as innocent as his story portrayed, but that's the general gist of it. He saw the news and freaked out. He locked himself in the church with all of the supplies. It wasn't just that he woke up late or anything like that. The people came, he wouldn't let them in, they got massacred and he listened to it while he sat safely inside. In the comics it specifically says they started coming slow at first and then more each day arrived wanting help or shelter and he sent them away. He clearly states that he was scared if he let them in he'd starve so he was choosing his survival over helping people. I NEVER considered him a fan-favorite while reading the comics, most of his story-arc he's been a coward and judges everyone else for doing "things" and "stuff" to survive.

10/27/2014 8:36:41 AM

Doesn't look like the "tainted meat" had any effect.

10/27/2014 9:22:41 AM

^^^^I think what he was referring to is that Rick hacked that guy into a million pieces with the machete, when really 3-4 swings at most was needed. You could tell by the look on everyone else's faces that he's kinda 'not alright" at the moment.

^From that situation I don't think you can make a decision. Bob took a while to die from the bite, so I'd imagine that it could take a while to die from tainted meat, if at all.

10/27/2014 10:39:25 AM

is there anyone left alive who ate the taint?

10/27/2014 10:54:49 AM

nah they killed all of them.

10/27/2014 11:05:09 AM

they should have had some fun with the female termite first

but, I guess that's why rick and the gang are "good people"

10/27/2014 11:28:13 AM

They should have? Creepy, dude.

10/27/2014 12:05:10 PM

May be a dumb question, but what's the significance of the Termites putting an "A" on the church?

10/27/2014 12:28:16 PM

Not sure if we're supposed to know yet? But "A" was the name of last season's finale.

10/27/2014 12:45:29 PM

"A" was written on the train car that Rick and Co. were stuck in at the end of last season in Terminus. That's why the season finale was called "A", and I believe Gareth did that to kinda say they were stuck in the train car before and now they're stuck in the church.

10/27/2014 12:49:44 PM

A

10/27/2014 12:55:17 PM

Grade "A" meat?

10/27/2014 12:56:06 PM

the bible versus up on the board during the planning scene were all related to the dead and undead. kind of cool.

10/27/2014 1:31:20 PM

do you have a screen shot of that?

10/27/2014 1:34:37 PM

no, but it was when Sasha came out of the backroom to say that she was going with Rick to find the hunters. here were the scriptures:

Ezekiel 37:7

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"So I prophesied as I was commanded. And as I was prophesying, there was a noise, a rattling sound, and the bones came together, bone to bone."

Matthew 27:52

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"and the tombs broke open. The bodies of many holy people who had died were raised to life."

Revelation 9:6

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"During those days people will seek death but will not find it; they will long to die, but death will elude them."

Luke 24:5

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"In their fright the women bowed down with their faces to the ground, but the men said to them, "Why do you look for the living among the dead?"

10/27/2014 2:05:13 PM

damn that's really cool. thanks for posting that.

10/27/2014 2:18:31 PM

Opening scene (or at least the first minute) is up on AMC

Lots of questions

10/27/2014 3:15:19 PM

I want to know who Daryl was with in the woods. You know he would never speak that way to his main bitch Carol, unless a prisoner was with them.

10/27/2014 6:39:51 PM