Quote :

"Why couldn't Marshall beat out McKillop and Davidson for him?"

Was he recruiting him? If so, tell us the reason.

3/31/2011 11:59:24 PM

Quote :

"so are we really down to Shaka and Marshall as our only options? "

OLIVER PURNELL

[Edited on April 1, 2011 at 12:00 AM. Reason : but it doesn't matter because WE GOTS DA BILLY]

3/31/2011 11:59:59 PM

Quote :

"Sloan would have had to beat out Kentucky and Rupp. Arguably the greatest program of all time and arguably the greatest coach of all time. Marshall can't beat out who exactly?"

Sloan's best SEC finish was 4th. I'm sure the other 3 programs were all-time great coaches as well.

What powerhouse was in Iona, John Hopkins, or Bucknell's conference stopping Valvano?

[Edited on April 1, 2011 at 12:01 AM. Reason : why can't BigEgo at least keep his shit on one site]

4/1/2011 12:00:19 AM

I'd take Dino Gaudio over Purnell. If we're gonna lose in the first round we might as well do it in style.

4/1/2011 12:01:02 AM

Fuck, man

Quote :

" I'm incompetent because of my opinion on one coach versus another."

No

You are incompetent because

1. You are doing an absolute shit job of making any semblance of a rational argument
2. You cannot comprehend that this isn't about differing opinions, despite my explaining this multiple times.

4/1/2011 12:02:15 AM

4/1/2011 12:03:07 AM

Where are the "WE GOT DONOVAN" april fools shenanigans. I am very disappointed.

4/1/2011 12:03:17 AM

hahaha oliver purnell...

dont know if yall got the news flash but he's on paid retirement in chicago

4/1/2011 12:03:53 AM

shit, time to not look at the thread for 23 hours and 56 minutes

4/1/2011 12:04:13 AM

Dude all you're doing is saying all the points of my argument are stupid.

To re-iterate, my points all along:

Marshall has improved programs every years he's been at them.

Multiple NCAA appearances, one win. But he was 14+ seeded at the time. I argue that it's harder to win seeded that low. I argue that you have to take that into context when you judge his tourney appearance.

MUCH longer track record than Shaka.

Shaka has gotten hot, other than that he's done jack shit.

Past performance does not dictate future results.

Marshall's history indicates he could get us back to respectability better than Shaka.

Those are my points, which I've re-iterated over and over again. Some people find them good points, some don't.

Your response is just variations of "OMG THAT'S THE DUMBEST SHIT I'VE EVER HEARD"

4/1/2011 12:05:38 AM

But seriously that is the dumbest shit I've ever heard

4/1/2011 12:06:24 AM

Yes but WHY. That's where you fail...

4/1/2011 12:06:45 AM

I've responded to each of those points already. Most of them I've responded to multiple times.

Get your fucking shinebox.

4/1/2011 12:08:15 AM

Quote :

"OMG THAT'S THE DUMBEST SHIT I'VE EVER HEARD "

4/1/2011 12:09:10 AM

OK, and I disagree with your responses. It is what it is.

ISN'T THE FREE EXCHANGE OF IDEAS GREAT?

I disagree with you but I don't think you're an idiot, wish you had the courtesy the argue the same way. Maybe you can work on that.

4/1/2011 12:09:27 AM

Quote :

"Past performance does not dictate future results. Marshall's history indicates he could get us back to respectability better than Shaka."

.....

4/1/2011 12:09:30 AM

Baboon

4/1/2011 12:10:04 AM

Quote :

"Past performance does not dictate future results. Marshall's history indicates he could get us back to respectability better than Shaka."

I don't follow

[Edited on April 1, 2011 at 12:10 AM. Reason : damn you kodiak]

4/1/2011 12:10:10 AM

Hell yeah, I knew it !!

Quote :

"DaveTelep: Confirmed with coach Donovan. He will leave Florida for NC State. WOW."

[Edited on April 1, 2011 at 12:11 AM. Reason : first bitches now I'm goin to bed]

4/1/2011 12:10:12 AM

^^ Haha true. I meant more in the context of one miracle F4 run.

[Edited on April 1, 2011 at 12:10 AM. Reason : ...]

4/1/2011 12:10:16 AM

fuck SFN...i try to post something off the topic of marshall vs. shaka and they keep deleting my posts even though my posts are about other coaches...they are like the damn media...officially over those overrated pricks. TWW forever!

[Edited on April 1, 2011 at 12:17 AM. Reason : d]

4/1/2011 12:12:30 AM

i told you guys, all we had to do was get 100 pages and billy would realize his mistake.

[Edited on April 1, 2011 at 12:16 AM. Reason : 1983 posts. ]

4/1/2011 12:13:27 AM

April Fools har har

4/1/2011 12:15:14 AM

Packboozie: "Since many great coaches started with mediocre records, that means every mediocre coach is destined for greatness!"

4/1/2011 12:21:28 AM

Quote :

"Sloan's best SEC finish was 4th. I'm sure the other 3 programs were all-time great coaches as well. What powerhouse was in Iona, John Hopkins, or Bucknell's conference stopping Valvano?"

Florida also had never been at all successful in basketball before Sloan's final few years at Florida. Even then, Sloan probably wouldn't have been hired if I had to guess if he didn't have ties to the school (since he played there).

Valvano took Iona to the twice NCAA tourney (first was his 4th year there) and won a game(5th year). Also had players drafted into the NBA.

Quote :

"Was he recruiting him? If so, tell us the reason."

Apparently according to Wiki.

4/1/2011 12:35:23 AM

The kind of people who like Marshall are the kind of people who invest their money in CDs. No risk of losing, but no risk of making any big money with it. They are just complete losers who have an inability to weigh risk and reward. In fact, this is even worse that someone who takes on too much risk because there is zero chance you will just get lucky and hit the jackpot.

If your goal is to win the fucking national championship, you either pay a lot of money and get a low risk A-lister or you can get a high-risk B lister. There are no other options. You either pay in upfront price or pay in risk. If you aren't paying either of those costs, you aren't getting a national championship coach. It's the same as any financial investment.

If a B-lister is low risk, that means he does not have the potential to win a national championship. If he did, he wouldn't be a B-lister. Marshall is a low risk B-lister who gives us zero chance of winning a national championship. He is sendek, hamilton, purnell, etc. All are decent coaches who will improve a team, but they will never ever field a team that has a shot at winning the title.

Making that kind of hire is not the purpose of this search. History shows that at Marshall's point in his career, the vast majority of national championship coaches had already made deep runs in the tourney. That's overachievement on a big scale. Marshall's overachievements happen on a small scale.

Getting excited about Marshall is like getting excited about 2% interest.

4/1/2011 12:38:50 AM

4/1/2011 12:42:42 AM

Quote :

"Florida also had never been at all successful in basketball before Sloan's final few years at Florida. Even then, Sloan probably wouldn't have been hired if I had to guess if he didn't have ties to the school (since he played there)."

huh? he played for case at state.

he coached at UF before he came to state, then he went back when willis casey wouldn't pay him.

4/1/2011 12:47:18 AM

Yeah, he played for State and was hired probably partially thanks to said ties

4/1/2011 12:52:18 AM

my bad i can't read. i thought you meant he played for UF.


anyways. WE GOTS DA BILLY

4/1/2011 1:04:45 AM

Quote :

"If a B-lister is low risk, that means he does not have the potential to win a national championship. If he did, he wouldn't be a B-lister. Marshall is a low risk B-lister who gives us zero chance of winning a national championship. He is sendek, hamilton, purnell, etc. All are decent coaches who will improve a team, but they will never ever field a team that has a shot at winning the title."

That's a really good point. I agree that Marshall probably would do no better than Sendek. But maybe State needs to take the low-risk path to becoming respectable again instead of taking a huge gamble and possibly being 5-11 for the next five years. Just seems to me like with every hire we're basically doubling down to try and cover previous losses.

4/1/2011 1:26:17 AM

you're either gonna take a risk and give yourself a chance to be great, or you're gonna play it safe and just be okay.

you can't be scared to take chances if you're ever going to amount to anything.

4/1/2011 1:40:52 AM

does we halves coach yes?

4/1/2011 2:13:25 AM

the past 4 pages have had some of the most mind numbingly stupid posts of all time

OF ALL TIME

on top of that, I'm pretty sure that xienze dude works at g105, or at least he did at one point

seriously though, I am contemplating drinking a 5th of whiskey just to erase the past 4 pages from my memory

jesus fucking christ

4/1/2011 2:32:20 AM

Quote :

"Bobby Lutz has been named head basketball coach at North Carolina State University"

DY can go fuck herself

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncaa/news/story?id=6276834

4/1/2011 2:35:22 AM

Quote :

"the past 4 pages have had some of the most mind numbingly stupid posts of all time OF ALL TIME on top of that, I'm pretty sure that xienze dude works at g105, or at least he did at one point seriously though, I am contemplating drinking a 5th of whiskey just to erase the past 4 pages from my memory jesus fucking christ"

This is what I love about the Internet. Hyperbole abounds. I hope someday you can recover from reading people argue on a message board.

And no, never worked at G105, not even close to the industry I work in.

4/1/2011 2:56:59 AM

there was nothing hyperbolic about my post. you are one of the main reasons why they were 4 of the worst pages ever

I will, however, apologize for thinking you worked for g105

that was a big time low blow

[Edited on April 1, 2011 at 3:06 AM. Reason : stupid autocorrect]

4/1/2011 3:06:04 AM

I think State should hire this xienze guy as head coach. He can induce headaches in the opposing coach/team with his mind-numbing irrationality.

4/1/2011 7:08:28 AM

Lol. I remember Lutz was brought up 5 years ago. This thread will be unbearable today. I hope there are some juicy moments in the missing runner thread today.

4/1/2011 7:16:42 AM

Espn 2 is reporting sean miller will have a press conference 1pm est 0.o

4/1/2011 7:32:50 AM

possible coaches on the list now (5 years ago) message_topic.aspx?topic=400739

Quote :

"Lol. I remember Lutz was brought up 5 years ago"

lulz message_topic.aspx?topic=401125

4/1/2011 7:40:51 AM

Quote :

""Should NOT be Discussed The following are names we don’t believe deserve the merit of discussion either because of their legitimacy of the search or because of they absurdity of a potential candidacy. (Any comments about any of these coaches will be deleted from the comments section) Bobby Lutz, Charlotte Sidney Lowe, Detroit Pistons Monte Towe, New Orleans Dereck Whittenburg, Fordham""

4/1/2011 7:51:14 AM

Quote :

"NC State has never hired a "big name" in either sport as coach. Offer 500k a year to Sean Miller."

roddy ftw in that thread ^^

4/1/2011 8:15:50 AM

lolz



[Edited on April 1, 2011 at 8:24 AM. Reason : lkj]

4/1/2011 8:24:21 AM

http://www.newsobserver.com/2011/04/01/1096160/pack-clarifies-coach-search.html

Quote :

"RALEIGH -- With a new rumor surfacing each day about the latest coach to turn down the N.C. State job, an N.C. State official made the first public comments about the search for the Wolfpack's next basketball coach Thursday. Associate athletic director Chris Kingston sent an email to The News & Observer, The Charlotte Observer and other media outlets Thursday which clarified the progress of the search. Kingston, who is on athletic director Debbie Yow's four-person search committee, wrote that there has been "strong interest" in the job and "conversations" about filling the vacancy. "As those conversations have occurred, coaches have naturally inquired about the potential compensation commitment of State, as would occur in any type of job search," Kingston wrote. Earlier Thursday, Seth Davis of Sports Illustrated and CBS reported that Memphis coach Josh Pastner had turned down an offer from N.C. State. In a brief interview Thursday, Kingston said he wasn't responding to any specific report. On Monday, Jeff Goodman of Fox Sports reported that the N.C. State athletic director had been "given the Heisman" by several candidates. In his email, Kingston said there was a difference between an official job offer from N.C. State and preliminary conversations. "Responding to those compensation questions is not the equivalent of 'offering the job' to anyone," Kingston wrote. "Instead, it is simply sharing information that reflects the commitment of State to the men's basketball program." Yow is in Houston for the Final Four. Virginia Commonwealth coach Shaka Smart, Wichita State coach Gregg Marshall and Cincinnati's Mick Cronin are believed to be among Yow's top targets. When Sidney Lowe resigned on March 15, Yow said she wanted an experienced college coach who has taken a program to the NCAA tournament. Smart's team plays Butler in the Final Four on Saturday, and Marshall took Winthrop to the NCAA tournament seven times in nine years before jumping to Wichita State in 2007. Cronin took Cincinnati to the NCAA tournament this season, his fifth with the Bearcats, and Murray State twice in a three-year span in his previous coaching stop."

4/1/2011 8:39:06 AM

I don't know much about Cronin but I get the feeling he'd just be working us for a raise at UC

4/1/2011 8:44:29 AM

carry on.

4/1/2011 8:46:43 AM

You know that joke you guys are about to post where you pretend Donovan or Miller or some other absurd candidate is getting the job and then you link to a fake espn or wral article?


Don't..... just don't.

4/1/2011 8:47:36 AM

Quote :

"Yow is in Houston for the Final Four. Virginia Commonwealth coach Shaka Smart, Wichita State coach Gregg Marshall and Cincinnati's Mick Cronin are believed to be among Yow's top targets."

Not only is she on vacation watching some great basketball she is also looking for a coach.

4/1/2011 8:49:46 AM

^that quoted statement belongs in the credibility thread

4/1/2011 8:56:05 AM