Probasesteal All American 10307 Posts user info edit post |
chuck is a clown 11/13/2006 10:01:36 PM |
beergolftile All American 9030 Posts user info edit post |
FIRE TRUCK 11/13/2006 10:03:40 PM |
Probasesteal All American 10307 Posts user info edit post |
CHIRE FUCK 11/13/2006 10:05:22 PM |
capymca All American 1013 Posts user info edit post |
11/13/2006 10:11:08 PM |
quiet guy Suspended 3020 Posts user info edit post |
11/13/2006 10:47:15 PM |
beergolftile All American 9030 Posts user info edit post |
11/13/2006 11:11:11 PM |
statefan24 All American 9157 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "So how many bag heads will be at the Carter for the ECU game?
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seriously, it would be awesome for this to happen.11/13/2006 11:11:34 PM |
Jmhans82 All American 630 Posts user info edit post |
I hate Chuck so much right now that this picture makes me laugh
11/14/2006 12:28:34 AM |
Easy Mac All American 3446 Posts user info edit post |
It was smart putting UNC-CH and ECU at the end of the schedule. No matter how muck you cant stand your coach you cant help but support them during a rival game. 11/14/2006 3:40:06 PM |
capymca All American 1013 Posts user info edit post |
^
actually it didn't work out so well for our coach the last time we finished the season vs unc and ecu 11/14/2006 3:42:18 PM |
Easy Mac All American 3446 Posts user info edit post |
That was only for the game. After the game thats another story. I dont know what will happen this time. Thanksgiving will be over by the ECU game.
[Edited on November 14, 2006 at 3:44 PM. Reason : ] 11/14/2006 3:44:16 PM |
BiggzsIII All American 5016 Posts user info edit post |
We gotta let Chuck Go.....thanks for what you did, and what you provided...but some people are only good for a period...
III & FC 11/14/2006 3:58:03 PM |
JT3bucky All American 23258 Posts user info edit post |
MNLHB
Must Not Let Hit Bottom 11/14/2006 6:10:01 PM |
roddy All American 25834 Posts user info edit post |
Only way he will leave after this season is if he does a Herb, and he will not, because he has a Fat annuity that is coming to him.
and he will not get fired because we will have to pay that for sure. I think the wolfpack club raised 1.5M as a one time payment after so many years.
[Edited on November 14, 2006 at 7:16 PM. Reason : w] 11/14/2006 7:15:11 PM |
pttyndal WINGS!!!!! 35217 Posts user info edit post |
yeah, I don't see him pulling a herb. Our luck, chuckles will can trestman and make a call to jeff bowden. 11/14/2006 7:52:24 PM |
FIVE O All American 1525 Posts user info edit post |
if chuckles goes, please bring in tommy bowden or tom osborne 11/14/2006 7:58:46 PM |
ncsuftw1 BEAP BEAP 15126 Posts user info edit post |
the unc game is kind of a win win situation.
we win, okay we won, we lose, theres no way he isn't fired if we lose 11/14/2006 8:20:32 PM |
capymca All American 1013 Posts user info edit post |
FIRE CHUCK 11/14/2006 8:52:05 PM |
NCSUFETNER Veteran 324 Posts user info edit post |
Has anyone heard anything else about Bill Cowhers? If he continues to have a bad season, he is on his way out. I have heard that the folks up there are not happy with him and were tired of him even when he was doing well. I don't understand why, but that's the word on the street. They should only let Chuck go if he is seriously thinking about coming here. There is no way we'll get someone better. Oh yeah, and don't forget, Chuck has only been a head coach for a short period of time. He'll probably only get better, and we know he can recruit. 11/14/2006 8:52:31 PM |
Probasesteal All American 10307 Posts user info edit post |
This is true, but he can't coach11/14/2006 8:57:13 PM |
NCSUFETNER Veteran 324 Posts user info edit post |
yeah, good gosh he makes some bad calls, but I believe he will continue to improve. If we could get Steve Spurrier or Bill Cowers or somebody like that I'd say go for it. But he's the best we got right now and if we run him off we're going to be in the same situation with the football team that we're in with the basketball team. We have NO IDEA how that is going to turn out. 11/14/2006 9:00:55 PM |
capymca All American 1013 Posts user info edit post |
Why do people say we couldn't get anyone better than Chuck? What evidence do you have? So no other coaches would want to coach at NC State?
D1, ACC, large school, solid recruiting area, amazing facilities, good area to live/raise a family.....yep, sounds like a dead end job to me. 11/14/2006 9:02:41 PM |
hcnguyen Suspended 4297 Posts user info edit post |
^^no basketball is turnign out better than football would. herb was a fundamental guy that could coach discipline but couldnt recruit the top athletes. if we fire chuck we will likely get a no name guy like herb that can't recruit as well but will have the team discipline but keep losing.
chuck and sid can recruit out of their mind and will have the athletes in place to do big things.
^pressure from the fan base.
one unfortunate player like stone and they want you out
[Edited on November 14, 2006 at 9:09 PM. Reason : nobody wants pressure.] 11/14/2006 9:08:40 PM |
capymca All American 1013 Posts user info edit post |
^ Chuck has had time to put the athletes in place...
Wait, so you are saying there is pressure to win in college sports????
You are attempting to link this with the basketball situation. The media labeled the fan base as being delusional. Whether or not they were is up for debate, but regardless, the media backed Herb. That is absolutely NOT the case with Amato. They have labeled him as the worst coach in America, commentators laugh at him, etc. Amato being fired would look like the school was sick of losing and his games, nothing more. 11/14/2006 9:13:14 PM |
hcnguyen Suspended 4297 Posts user info edit post |
you didnt get my message that chuck is not a really good coach but he makes up for his lack in coaching with his amazing recruiting and he's been a qb short of sucess and thats obvious.
football fans are pretty much the same people as the basketball fans and they too, are delusional. why do you think they think they can cowher or ole ball. they spent all this money on stuff now they think they deserve an immediate championship for it. its not that easy. 11/14/2006 9:18:19 PM |
Tradia231 Starting Lineup 68 Posts user info edit post |
you know what is easy? canning chucks useless ass. 11/14/2006 9:18:56 PM |
pttyndal WINGS!!!!! 35217 Posts user info edit post |
Herb was a great coach and fielded a talented group of players. His style of offense just left something more to be desired. Live by the 3, Die by the 3 and we mainly did the latter.
Chuck brings in great recruits but he has proved time and time again that he can't do anything with them. Don't even mention Rivers because he carried chuckles on his back for those 4 years. We have flip flopped from run heavy to pass heavy and back with no success. We've gone through numerous OCs and that hasn't helped.
And I don't think many of us want a championship. Just being able to compete week in and week out and not always come up one step short is good enough for me.
[Edited on November 14, 2006 at 9:23 PM. Reason : ] 11/14/2006 9:21:22 PM |
hcnguyen Suspended 4297 Posts user info edit post |
how many ppg did rivers "carry" chuck with in 2002?
[Edited on November 14, 2006 at 9:23 PM. Reason : im guessing 25-30 which is not what i would call a carry the ball has to rest on the palm of the han] 11/14/2006 9:22:28 PM |
capymca All American 1013 Posts user info edit post |
So we should be content with Chuck's amazing recruiting even if he can't coach worth crap???
WTF?
And I am still not convinced on recruiting. He has increased our team speed...but speed doesn't increase talent. He is getting kids from Florida....but just the leftovers that UM, UF, FSU dont want. We can see by the abundance of penalties and boneheaded plays that perhaps these aren't the most savy players out there either.
If Jim Grobe can go 8-1 at Wake Forest, then the head coach at NC State should be able to AT LEAST do the same. 11/14/2006 9:23:02 PM |
Mr Grace All American 12412 Posts user info edit post |
rivers didnt carry us
norm chow did
rivers just did what chow taught him 11/14/2006 9:23:25 PM |
hcnguyen Suspended 4297 Posts user info edit post |
florida commits the most penalties so fire meyer.
^^that IS THE SHIT THAT MAKES ME SICK
EDITING
you guys act like grobe is just any coach and there are 1 million grobe clones just waiting on the side like "HIRE ME, HIRE ME, HIRE ME, I WANT TO COACH NCSTATE!"
and they will come and do exactly waht grobe is doing this year for the first time right away.
THAT IS DELUSIONAL.
chuck isnt that shitty of a coach. you can't coach arm strength and accuracy. you can't coach qb. some guys are born to play d1 qb but lee weatherford stone davis and evans obviously are not
if he was such a terrible coach we wouldnt be in every game and wouldnt do so well on d and woulndt have done so well in 02. he may be bad at discipline but thats the players he brings in. he chooses to go for the best athlete even if they have no character.how do you know he isnt taking strait thugs and turning them into occasional late hitters or celebrators?
because thats what hes doing. so if you look at it like that hes not bad at discipline.
true he makes some shitty calls but o well. we can't have a coach that does everything great. not many pete carrols on their couches
we are ncstate.
[Edited on November 14, 2006 at 9:24 PM. Reason : DIDNT FINISH]
[Edited on November 14, 2006 at 9:27 PM. Reason : you can't blame the coach for that.]
[Edited on November 14, 2006 at 9:27 PM. Reason : somebody slid in ^]
[Edited on November 14, 2006 at 9:31 PM. Reason : chuck will take us where we want to be] 11/14/2006 9:24:23 PM |
capymca All American 1013 Posts user info edit post |
2002 - BEST YEAR IN NC STATE FOOTBALL EVER
MYTH - DEBUNKED
14 Total Games (2 more than a normal season)
2 wins vs D1AA (East Tennessee State and UMASS
1 Extra Game in BCA Classic (home game vs New Mexico
= 3 EASY Wins
Conference Record - (5-3), 4th Place Finish = Mediocre or SLIGHTLY Above Average
We snuck into the Gater Bowl because we could bring tons of fans (bad fans mind you who don't support the team ). We snuck in because Maryland and perhaps Clemson?? were ranked ahead of us and finished higher in conference standings but the bowl picked us. The ACC changed the rules after this to make sure it never happened again. We got to play a VERY over-rated Notre Dame team.
We had a good season. Nothing more, nothing less.
2 wins vs D1AA, 3 wins vs Duke, New Mexico, and Navy, who at the time were three of the WORST teams in football. 11/14/2006 9:29:30 PM |
hcnguyen Suspended 4297 Posts user info edit post |
sounds like wake forest this year
MYTH DUBUNKED 11/14/2006 9:32:11 PM |
capymca All American 1013 Posts user info edit post |
^
Fair enough....doesn't change the fact that Chuck is no miracle worker and isn't a good coach and should be fired. 11/14/2006 9:33:23 PM |
hcnguyen Suspended 4297 Posts user info edit post |
so we need to hire a miracle worker? 11/14/2006 9:38:16 PM |
SPUD Veteran 237 Posts user info edit post |
i'm not saying they were a great team or anything, but i'm pretty sure new mexico went to a bowl game that year 11/14/2006 9:40:44 PM |
pttyndal WINGS!!!!! 35217 Posts user info edit post |
11/14/2006 11:38:54 PM |
jbrick83 All American 23447 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "2002 - BEST YEAR IN NC STATE FOOTBALL EVER
MYTH - DEBUNKED
14 Total Games (2 more than a normal season)
2 wins vs D1AA (East Tennessee State and UMASS
1 Extra Game in BCA Classic (home game vs New Mexico
= 3 EASY Wins
Conference Record - (5-3), 4th Place Finish = Mediocre or SLIGHTLY Above Average
We snuck into the Gater Bowl because we could bring tons of fans (bad fans mind you who don't support the team ). We snuck in because Maryland and perhaps Clemson?? were ranked ahead of us and finished higher in conference standings but the bowl picked us. The ACC changed the rules after this to make sure it never happened again. We got to play a VERY over-rated Notre Dame team.
We had a good season. Nothing more, nothing less.
2 wins vs D1AA, 3 wins vs Duke, New Mexico, and Navy, who at the time were three of the WORST teams in football." |
THANK YOU....I've been trying to say this forever.
Quote : | "Only way he will leave after this season is if he does a Herb, and he will not, because he has a Fat annuity that is coming to him." |
And you're wrong. If the big boys at the top (and I don't mean Lee Fowler) want him gone...then he's gone. Simple as that.11/15/2006 12:23:49 AM |
shields27 All American 1806 Posts user info edit post |
Lee Fowler will not "want him gone" b/c hes such a pussy and will not fire anyone..
-ie the volleyball coach 11/15/2006 12:28:29 AM |
swedish All American 891 Posts user info edit post |
^we just got a new volleyball coach..this is her first year here. 11/15/2006 12:40:44 AM |
jbrick83 All American 23447 Posts user info edit post |
PWNT 11/15/2006 12:41:56 AM |
erice85 All American 4549 Posts user info edit post |
i think he was saying that it took long enough for fowler to fire her ass
even though his smoking ass daughter is no longer on the team now 11/15/2006 12:52:08 AM |
swedish All American 891 Posts user info edit post |
got it 11/15/2006 12:53:21 AM |
packboozie All American 17452 Posts user info edit post |
Damn I love this block feature.
I am finally done with hcnguyen's posts.
And I think it is funny how Earl has dissapeared and hcnguyen is posting more. 11/15/2006 12:59:36 AM |
dubcaps All American 4765 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "^we just got a new volleyball coach..this is her first year here." |
fowler didnt really "fire" her though, he just waited until her contract was up and decided not to renew it
[Edited on November 15, 2006 at 1:19 AM. Reason : ]11/15/2006 1:19:08 AM |
kirbs71 Veteran 323 Posts user info edit post |
does anyone else think its just a matter of time before one of our players fall and get injured as they go down those concrete steps with cleats on? 11/15/2006 1:21:15 AM |
hcnguyen Suspended 4297 Posts user info edit post |
posting more? im actually posting less. FACT. my most postful days come when earl is active. we raleigh well together 11/15/2006 4:57:34 AM |
BrickTop All American 4508 Posts user info edit post |
11/15/2006 5:46:09 AM |
mls09 All American 1515 Posts user info edit post |
i really don´t understand why people use the volleyball coach thing as a slight against lee fowler. it´s volleyball. it´s not a revenue sport, so why fire a coach, have to pay out her contract, and sign another contract on top of that? can you even name a player on the volleyball team? or the new coach, or the old coach for that matter? is volleyball really the sport you want to demand excellence from? christ. it´s volleyball. i don´t think i can say it enough. volleyball.
chuck isn´t going to be fired this season whether you like it or not. there is no way fowler is going to stick his head out AGAIN looking for a new coach, after all the trouble he went through before finding sidney. you can boast about our facilities, our location, our conference all you want, but so can many of the other schools within our conference, and unlike the other schools that may be looking for head coaches, we don´t have the history they do. 11/15/2006 8:47:56 AM |
gunzz IS NÚMERO UNO 68205 Posts user info edit post |
hey idiot we want to be able to compete in all sports not just revenue sports
are you that dumb? MA Fox didnt take any shit from any of our coaches. Fowler seems to bend over backwards for everyone 11/15/2006 9:34:05 AM |