Golovko and El Nachó butt buddies, who woulda thunk?

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"But yet you still come in here trying to "set things straight" like those benefits simply don't exist. Either point out some ways that the PS3 version is better, or concede that it's not. It's that simple."

I never said you should buy the PS3 version if you have both consoles, though. All I did was point out that the PS3 version wasn't lacking in anyway, which is what posters before me had implied with a bunch of false statements. Then the rest of you morons broke in talking about how much better Live is than the PSN, which is the equivalent of arguing why the 360 is better than PS3. It's totally fucking irrelevant and completely stupid.

Now, like Kainen said, if you want to open this up into an all out console war between the 360 and PS3, be my guest. That's not what I came into this thread for though.

Now, here are all the gameplay videos to shut you fucking morons up once and for all.

http://www.dailymotion.com/Yoxux/video/x56hn1_video-in-game-gta-iv-intro-gameplay_tech:
http://www.dailymotion.com/Yoxux/video/x56izc_gta-iv-gameplay-n2_videogames
http://www.dailymotion.com/Yoxux/video/x56j5i_gta-iv-gameplay-n3_tech
http://www.dailymotion.com/Yoxux/video/x56lvh_gta-iv-gameplay-n6_videogames
http://www.dailymotion.com/Yoxux/video/x56kig_gta-iv-gameplay-n5_videogames
http://www.dailymotion.com/Yoxux/video/x56mr4_gta-iv-gameplay-n7_videogames
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x56n5k_gta-4-gameplay_videogames
http://www.dailymotion.com/turkific/video/x56oej_v2304082020_videogames

4/23/2008 4:58:48 PM

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"Golovko and El Nachó butt buddies, who woulda thunk?"

What the fuck? I can't stand that douchebag moron.

But at the moment even his dumb ass is making you look stupid.

You really should cry yourself to sleep over that one.

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"All I did was point out that the PS3 version wasn't lacking in anyway"

And all we did was prove you wrong.

I mean I even explained it to you how the difference in XBL and the PSN affect this game.

You lose. get over it and stop polluting this thread with your further stupidity.

4/23/2008 5:02:26 PM

What the fuck? I can't stand that douchebag moron.

But at the moment even his dumb ass is making you look stupid.

You really should cry yourself to sleep over that one.

4/23/2008 5:04:06 PM

copy
paste
try to look clever
fail

4/23/2008 5:06:07 PM

everyone

can we PLEASE keep all the console war shit in the console war thread and all unite to talk about how awesome GTA4 is in this thread?

we should be hating the LCPD, not each other

[Edited on April 23, 2008 at 5:06 PM. Reason : .]

4/23/2008 5:06:26 PM

Look at that, you're even copying each others posts now. How cute. I can just imagine you giving each other high fives.

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" And all we did was prove you wrong. I mean I even explained it to you how the difference in XBL and the PSN affect this game. "

Right, because you and your bff Golovko (i love how saying this gets a rise out of you every time) are the authority on this subject. You didn't prove shit. Sorry, but I'd rather take the word of the developers and people who have played the game who say otherwise.

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"You lose. get over it and stop polluting this thread with your further stupidity."

I've contributed way more to this thread, you know, on the subject of GTA IV than you and your cum bucket Golovko. All you've done is bitch about me, hahahaha.

[Edited on April 23, 2008 at 5:11 PM. Reason : :]

4/23/2008 5:08:40 PM

I just can't comprehend your stupidity and blind loyalty to sony.

It seriously amazes me.

You're willing to ignore FACTS in order to try and win some stupid internet argument.

Wow.

There's no reasoning with stupidity like that.

You win, man. you can have it.

'grats.

4/23/2008 5:12:41 PM

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"I've contributed way more to this thread, you know, on the subject of GTA IV "

motherfucking lol of the day right there.

4/23/2008 5:13:43 PM

4/23/2008 5:15:49 PM

come on man, don't post big ass pics.

I don't want to have to scroll to read shrikes moronic replies.

4/23/2008 5:17:19 PM

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"copy paste try to look clever fail"

well according to your commented out edit...you failed

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"Sorry, but I'd rather take the word of the developers and people who have played the game who say otherwise."

LOL. because Rockstar disabled the dashboard blade on the 360 version just to level the playing field. LOL LOL LOL.

[Edited on April 23, 2008 at 5:20 PM. Reason : .]

4/23/2008 5:19:19 PM

umm...what?

4/23/2008 5:20:37 PM

you edited your post to include the copy paste of what i said then you used html comment tags to remove the 'edit comment' time stamp.



[Edited on April 23, 2008 at 5:21 PM. Reason : in plain english for you.]

4/23/2008 5:21:46 PM

oh, I get it now. you're lying and trying to make it look like you are the original author of that comment.

wow. that may be a new low for you gloveco.

how sad.

4/23/2008 5:24:48 PM

it would only be a lie if you didn't actually edit out your comment and then try to hide it

you fail. and your buttbudy shreke

4/23/2008 5:26:44 PM

Take your faggot shit elsewhere guys.

4/23/2008 5:30:02 PM

Still kinda pissed all these vids are just of people driving cars or meleeing. Theres like one vid of a gunfight.

I know the first thing i did when i played GTA was melee a few people till a cop showed up. Hop in a car, run over the cop, take his gun then try and see how many stars i could get. Driving around is fun, but not really what i look for in this game.

4/23/2008 5:41:39 PM

i wish this goddamn thread would get locked.

4/23/2008 5:42:58 PM

Wow, the 6th video Shrike posted looks awesome. The water looks incredible. Check out the reflections on it and the way the waves moved.

I think it's cool how they have the entire city open, but you can only go to certain parts if you want to have to run from the cops. It was funny how the guy in the video made it through the first barricade, made it all the way across the bridge, then got totally fucked up at the last barricade. This game is going to be incredible.

4/23/2008 5:43:06 PM

Yeah, I was disappointed that the videos didn't have much action in them. I really wanted to see some explosions, but the game looks great. Is it just me or did the cars seem very "loose?" They look very bouncy and a bit unwieldy, but I guess I'd have to have my hands to on the controller to know for sure. Can't wait.

[Edited on April 23, 2008 at 5:48 PM. Reason : .]

4/23/2008 5:45:41 PM

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"i wish this goddamn thread would get locked."

oh shut the fuck up and stop your damn crying. It's not like we won't start talking about the game more when it actually gets released. So a little faggotry gets spilled. You won't catch AIDS from it. 90% of it was actually talking about the game anyway, if you want to admit it or not.

4/23/2008 5:47:04 PM

^^^I'm honestly pleasantly surprised with how much it doesn't look like shit. The lighting, animation, physics, and shader effects are all top notch. The poly count and texture resolution are about the only thing thats not up to par, but it doesn't really matter, the game looks great in motion.

4/23/2008 5:56:50 PM

It does look really good. There were a couple of instants where cars or objects didn't show up on the screen until they were right in front of you when going at high speeds just like in the old games. But as long as it's not very frequent it won't ruin the game.

I think one of the reasons the cars look really "loose" is the new unique suspensions the developers were talking about for each car. In one of the videos an SUV flips over just because it braked too hard into a turn. In the old games, that never would have happened, but in that video it flipped rather easily. I think they just made the cars more realistic and as a result, they all don't drive as easily as in the old games.

LOL at the guy shitting his pants at the end of the 7th video when someone knocks on the door.

4/23/2008 6:00:42 PM

Shrike I usually just post anti ps3 things to watch you type up novels but in this case I would just like to point how you have no idea what youre talking about.

Xbox live is so much better than PSN that people PAY FOR IT.

Not me of course. I don't play video games.

4/23/2008 6:28:06 PM

let's hope you're right nacho, I mean there has to be a large handful of people with ntsc now, at least one of them might be in the scene.

4/23/2008 8:04:39 PM

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"Shrike I usually just post anti ps3 things to watch you type up novels but in this case I would just like to point how you have no idea what youre talking about. Xbox live is so much better than PSN that people PAY FOR IT. Not me of course. I don't play video games."

Or own a 360.

Or a PS3.

Or get the point.

Thanks for chiming in though, your unique insight on the subject is invaluable.

4/23/2008 8:17:42 PM

since you brought it back up...you don't own a 360.

Myself, and many others in this thread own both.

4/23/2008 9:23:01 PM

That's awesome, how do you like it? Direct answer to the following thread,

message_topic.aspx?topic=364524.

4/23/2008 9:32:02 PM

lol you are a douche

4/23/2008 9:32:55 PM

^^thats an awesome thread too! but since this is about GTAIV and which platform (if you own both) would be a better buy..i think i'll just post here. kthx.

4/23/2008 9:43:54 PM

http://www.justin.tv/sculay

Another live feed, god Rockstar must be pulling their hair out taking down videos.

4/23/2008 10:10:29 PM

i dont know why but the physics of this is really impressive. Actually I do know why - LOOK AT THAT. I hope that's real.

4/24/2008 12:14:36 AM

Punch black window. Window turns white.

Even then I'm not seeing much "physics". There's like collision detection, I guess.

4/24/2008 12:17:29 AM

^^ the physics are powered by they RAGE engine that was used in rockstar presents table tennis.

^ you should appreciate that we as humans have figured out how to make such things instead of complain about the trivialities.

[Edited on April 24, 2008 at 7:11 AM. Reason : xfg]

4/24/2008 7:10:04 AM

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"Even then I'm not seeing much "physics". There's like collision detection, I guess."

Haha, dude - collision detection is 1 of 2 primary standards of a physics engine. That is what I'm talking about.

The window actually clips that black dude correctly and it looks like he's pushed off of it in a really realist ic way, and then when he tries to come back he punches through the windshield.

It's impressive, in any other game that shit would never look that fluid.

He's like FUCK YOUZ NIGGA!

[Edited on April 24, 2008 at 7:54 AM. Reason : -]

4/24/2008 7:52:38 AM

damn sleep and work. Dunno how long it's been out but it is.

Grand Theft Auto IV NTSC XBOX360-101

4/24/2008 8:04:37 AM

It uses that same Euphoria engine that was hyped a while back for The Force Unleashed. Basically, instead of just ragdolls bouncing off each other, they are supposed to react realistically to their environments and whats going on around them.

4/24/2008 8:59:15 AM

I wish I would have thought of this.

4/24/2008 9:31:03 AM

I'll be uh, "working from home" next week

4/24/2008 9:42:41 AM

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"It uses that same Euphoria engine that was hyped a while back for The Force Unleashed. Basically, instead of just ragdolls bouncing off each other, they are supposed to react realistically to their environments and whats going on around them."

flat out wrong

Quote :

"Grand Theft Auto IV powered by Table Tennis engine? Source: [UPDATE] A Total Video Games piece that referenced, but did not link to, this MTV interview... The official story: Grand Theft Auto publisher Rockstar Games had not responded to requests for comment as of press time. What we heard: When Electronic Arts bought Criterion Games in July 2004, it did more than add the Burnout extreme-racing franchise to its game garage. The Guildford, UK-based developer is also the creator of the RenderWare engine, which powers many games published by EA rivals--games such as Grand Theft Auto III, Grand Theft Auto: Vice City, and Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas. Take-Two Interactive, owner of Rockstar, must have been less than thrilled when EA bought Criterion, as the purchase meant it would have to pay royalties to its archrival for each GTA game sold. Given the royalty conundrum and the desire for cutting-edge graphics, many assumed that the next GTA would be based on an all-new engine. So when word began to spread that MTV was saying GTA IV would be based on RAGE, industry watchers nodded approvingly. After all, the technology--which stands for Rockstar Advanced Game Engine--was developed in-house at Rockstar, meaning no royalty payments to third parties would be necessary. Furthermore, Rockstar Games presents Table Tennis shows that RAGE is capable of both impressive graphics and physics, two areas that drew fire from GTA detractors. But as logical as the TVG story sounded, it could not be verified as of press time. Neither of the game sections on the US or UK MTV Web sites had any visible stories about GTA IV, and inquiries to Rockstar reps had gone unanswered as of press time. [UPDATE] GameSpot News got in contact with MTV, and the article is still up--it's just slightly over a month old. Rockstar voluntarily admitted that the RAGE engine would be used in all upcoming Rockstar Games, including the next GTA. Bogus or not bogus?: Given the positive feedback on Table Tennis and the huge potential savings, this smells legit. "

4/24/2008 9:53:01 AM

Rage = graphics engine, Euphoria = animation engine. I hate to quote Wikipedia, but I'm too lazy to find a better source.

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"The game uses Rockstar's own RAGE game engine in combination with the Euphoria game animation engine.[19] Instead of pre-written animations, Euphoria controls the way the player moves, enabling character movements to be more realistic.[20] The Euphoria engine also enables NPCs to react in a realistic way to the player's actions. In one preview, a player knocked an NPC out a window and the character grabbed onto a ledge to stop himself from falling.[21] The game also uses middleware from Image Metrics to facilitate intricate facial expressions and ease the process of incorporating lip-synching.[22]"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grand_Theft_Auto_IV

Fuck it, Wikipedia did that for me.

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"Following earlier news that Rockstar had chosen NaturalMotion's procedural animation package Euphoria for use in several next gen products, the company has confirmed that the software is being used for Grand Theft Auto IV, as showcased in its latest trailer. "

http://www.gamasutra.com/php-bin/news_index.php?story=14526

[Edited on April 24, 2008 at 9:59 AM. Reason : :]

4/24/2008 9:56:19 AM

oh word, i guess i got pwnt!

4/24/2008 10:01:00 AM

Yes, shrike pwnted you. A minor pwnt.

Take heart, it happens to us all.

Regardless, from what I've seen so far - this shit looks extremely awesome. I just wish I could see a more clear view of what gameplay looks like. And for god's sake please I hope they control more like an Uncharted than any other of the GTA games. Please. It's my huge bitch about GTA.

4/24/2008 10:07:31 AM

haha its actually funny to me, because the whole time it seemed like rage was a physics engine (or an engine that encompassed physics).

4/24/2008 10:10:17 AM

is it the 29th yet?

4/24/2008 10:12:45 AM

^^^Well, the live feed I posted is broadcasting again, that's pretty much as a clear of a view of the gameplay as you can get lol. I think he's doing missions now though, so watch out for spoilers.

http://www.justin.tv/sculay

[Edited on April 24, 2008 at 10:13 AM. Reason : :]

4/24/2008 10:12:54 AM

yeah im not interested in seeing too much so i don't want to watch it and kill alot of the surprise. i just want an innocuous loop or something. Perhaps I just need to read a good review for reassurance.

I've really only seen pics and some gif loops. I bet you lots of people are watching every bit of that but it just seems like it ruins alot of that shiny 'new' and 'suprise' factor of a good next gen or big entry in a franchise. Those moments are why i still like gaming. Not sure if that makes sense but there's always a sense of hoping a game feels like some new level of environment and fun.

I'm actually starting to drink the koolaid, admittedly. Getting excited.

4/24/2008 10:17:38 AM

i have never wanted a game more than this game ever. the only game that i think i can taste just the same as this game is re5.

4/24/2008 10:19:59 AM

no longer have a composite/svideo input for capturing

4/24/2008 10:35:31 AM

http://www.justin.tv/swiftor is a MUCH better quality stream.

Too bad you have to listen to some 15 year old moron give his personal commentary about everything in the game though.

4/24/2008 10:54:39 AM