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4/14/2009 9:53:55 PM

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The defense is the most important thing. If the defense plays well next year, we will be just fine with Jake as our quarterback.

4/14/2009 9:54:20 PM

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^thank you, captain obvious

4/14/2009 9:57:11 PM

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if peppers is here next season i'm already calling it a wash

4/15/2009 1:24:32 AM

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"Thanks to our friends over at ESPN Stats & Information for providing a few more NFC South nuggets to follow up on Tuesday's release of the regular-season schedule.

The Falcons have as difficult of an opening to the season as anyone. Their first four games come against opponents who had a .641 winning percentage last season. The Cowboys and Jaguars are tied with the Falcons for the most difficult first four games.

The Panthers have the most difficult final eight games, facing teams with a .632 winning percentage. The Panthers and Saints are tied for the most difficult final four games as they each face teams with a .641 winning percentage."


given this....you're damn right the defense better be back to top form...

4/15/2009 3:03:01 PM

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i really doubt peppers will be back next year


as we get closer to the draft, someone will get desperate.

[Edited on April 15, 2009 at 3:58 PM. Reason : .]

4/15/2009 3:57:54 PM

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Interesting stat from Packman earlier today:

Last season, at this point in April when the 2008-09 schedules were released, the Indianapolis Colts had the 2nd toughest schedule...just like the Panthers this year, the strength of schedule is based on the cumulative record the year before of all the teams on their schedule...similar to the Panthers, the Colts' opponents had roughly a 45-50 games over .500 record

How did the Colts' opponents actually finish last season? well below .500

The morale of the story is that freaking out about SOS in April is ridiculous

4/15/2009 4:41:50 PM

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you can find one example to back up anything....I'd be curious to see a list of past playoff teams SOS from the year before.

Taking the numbers/winning percentages out of the equation, our division is one of the toughest in football...that combined with playing the AFC and NFC east would make for a tough schedule almost any year.

then theres that pesky up one year down the next thing....which, to be honest, worries me more than anything.

4/15/2009 4:54:21 PM

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Here's another example:

Do you know who had the #1 toughest schedule last year? The Pittsburgh Steelers. IIRC they had a pretty good season.

Another thing though, while everybody is freaking out about playing the NFC East and AFC East which are very good conferences...I guarantee you not one of our 16 opponents (ok 13 with division home/home) is looking forward to play us...we might not have the Chiefs or Raiders or Lions on our schedule, but we're not exactly a bad team either

People will get injured, a couple teams that are supposed to be shitty will be good, a couple teams that are supposed to be great will underperform, etc

Plus, we haven't even had the draft yet

[Edited on April 15, 2009 at 5:35 PM. Reason : .]

4/15/2009 5:33:22 PM

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they did have a QB that has now won 2 super bowls though

4/15/2009 5:34:36 PM

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Trade peppers for boldin and a 2nd or 3rd round pick

SMith and Boldin would be

4/17/2009 9:37:06 AM

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^where are you getting this from? imagination?

4/17/2009 12:28:55 PM

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yes sir

they said on espn that arizona wanted a 1st and a 3rd

the Panthers want 2 1st or a 1st and a 2nd

seems like it could work

4/17/2009 1:24:45 PM

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You're right, we are one of many listed as showing interest via ESPNi....


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Anquan Boldin | Cardinals | Interested: Eagles? Jets? Giants? Dolphins? Jaguars? Cowboys? Ravens? Panthers?
While the Cleveland Browns have been surreptitiously marketing Braylon Edwards without publicly declaring his availability on the trading block this offseason, it appears that another high-end wide receiver is now also on the market. Ken Whisenhunt recently told Darren Urban of the Arizona Republic that "it would be foolish from our standpoint not to listen to those opportunities and see what actually exists. But I want to make the point: our goal is to re-sign him to a long-term deal. That hasn't changed." Cardinals general manager Rod Graves also chimed in, saying, "we just think it is prudent for us to evaluate all our options."
Both Whisenhunt and Graves chose not to divulge which teams were already in the mix, which is more fun for the average NFL fan anyway. The New York Giants are expected to get involved, if they haven't already, owing to the fact that they are clearly in need of a new No. 1 wide receiver. While Tom Rock of Newsday has been told by a source that the Giants have not yet inquired about Boldin, Mike Garafolo of the Newark Star-Ledger describes a scenario where the Giants might actually be closer to landing Boldin than Edwards. The Browns seem to be uninterested in budging off their high asking price for Edwards, while the Cards could potentially accept a lighter offer. On the other hand, Boldin's asking price is probably pretty steep too. Agent Drew Rosenhaus made remarks in February indicating that the Cards would need a deal similar to what the Detroit Lions got for Roy Williams; namely, a deal centered around a first-, third- and sixth-round pick in this year's draft. Of course, as we learn in Economics 101, the more competition that exists in a market, the lower the price of goods will go, so perhaps with this other player now available, one of the teams will soften its compensatory expectations.

The Philadelphia Eagles are another likely suitor for both Edwards and Boldin. At the league meetings in March, coach Andy Reid told the Philadelphia Daily News that, "I'll always look at something if there is a great player out there, and it doesn't matter what position. I'm always looking to better our football team." The Eagles have so far stood by their claim that they are happy with their current slate of receivers, but with such a large cache of draft picks, it'd be a little silly not to at least make an offer. Adding to that sentiment is the idea that Boldin could potentially end up with their archrivals, and one can easily argue that the Eagles need to be involved.

Another NFC East team, the Dallas Cowboys, has 11 total picks in the draft, and a Williams-Boldin tandem would make defensive backfields shudder. At first, it might seem crazy for the Cowboys to shell out another package of draft picks for another wide receiver; but, with the uncertain production of rookie players being weighed against the near-certain dominance that would be on display with Williams and Boldin on the same team, the move could make sense. The Jacksonville Jaguars might not have the complete wealth of draft picks that the Cowboys, Eagles and Giants possess, but they are playing with the eighth overall selection, which could be an attractive trading chip in the eyes of the Cardinals, who won't pick until No. 31.

For the other receiver-needy teams, the offers might have to be a little more creative than just draft picks. Luckily, the Cardinals are in need of a running back to complement Tim Hightower, and no one is sure what's going to happen with Edgerrin James, who has asked for his release. One team that comes to mind is the New York Jets, who have only six picks in the draft, but could involve offseason workout-skipping Thomas Jones as part of a larger deal. The team might have a Brian Westbrook-type player in Leon Washington, and with Jones on the wrong side of 30, the time for a big change could be now. The Miami Dolphins could be in the mix as well. Earlier in April during an appearance on ESPN Radio 760, Boldin was asked if he'd be up for playing in Miami, and he responded, "I would love to. You know, I'm a Florida guy, always will be a Florida guy at heart. If it happens, I'll definitely be grateful." The Dolphins also have a lower pick in the first round, and nine picks total, but could dangle Ricky Williams. Williams, like Jones, is also on the wrong side of 30, but had a resurgent performance as the complement to Ronnie Brown in 2008, rushing 160 times for 659 yards and four touchdowns in addition to his 29 receptions for 219 yards and another touchdown. Likewise, the Baltimore Ravens, who have just six picks but could survive on offense with Ray Rice and Le'Ron McClain, could come calling with an offer that includes Willis McGahee. Using similar logic to the above situations, the Carolina Panthers, who have just five picks in the draft, might also come calling to Graves with a mix of picks and a player or two.

Whether or not a deal for Boldin actually takes place, it's bad news for the Browns, who now have competition in trying to sell off Edwards. Moreover, the potential for one landscape-changing deal in the NFC East has now been pushed aside, as it appears that multiple teams from the division will be vying for the same players. With just over two weeks left before the draft begins on April 25, there may be much more to come on the Boldin and Edwards sweepstakes in the next few days."

4/17/2009 1:28:28 PM

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the likelyhood of that happening is slim to none.




and slim just left town.

4/17/2009 1:36:28 PM

TreeTwista10
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I just want this thing to get some closure

4/17/2009 2:36:29 PM

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On the Clock: Carolina Panthers
Team needs: Defensive line, cornerback, wide receiver

The Panthers are going to be looking for help at defensive end and might tab Paul Kruger with their first pick.

Dream scenario: At the moment, the Panthers don't have a pick until the second round (No. 59 overall). They traded away their first-round pick to get tackle Jeff Otah in last year's draft. There's no doubting that move because it worked out well. The Panthers could still possibly end up back in the first round depending on how the Julius Peppers situation plays out. In a perfect world, the Panthers would trade Peppers for two first-round picks. But they probably would take a first-round choice combined with another pick. That would allow them to have a shot at a replacement for Peppers or a quality defensive tackle. Much would depend on where they landed in the first round, but defensive end Michael Johnson and defensive tackle Peria Jerry could be possibilities if the Panthers can move somewhere into the top 32.

Plan B: Even if they stay at No. 59, the needs don't change, but the talent pool does. The Panthers need to find a replacement for Peppers, even if he stays because he won't stay for long. Utah defensive end Paul Kruger could be the pick. He's athletic and could become an every-down player if he adds some bulk. The Panthers have had very good luck with Utah players, hitting big when they drafted Steve Smith and Jordan Gross. Another possibility could be Ohio State wide receiver Brian Robiskie. Although he might not have great measurable skills, he's a very polished receiver and could contribute right away behind Smith and Muhsin Muhammad and be an eventual replacement for Muhammad.

Who has the final say: General manager Marty Hurney and coach John Fox pride themselves on saying neither truly has final say because they're able to reach an agreement on every decision. That's true and Hurney and Fox are very good and methodical at working through the tough choices and reaching a consensus that includes input from their scouts and coaches."

4/19/2009 11:11:11 PM

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omfg this is killing me...

i wanted peppers gone 2 months ago and hes STILL here!!

4/21/2009 1:44:59 AM

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If Peppers ends up staying a Panther he should give half his $16 million salary to charity. He does that I might rethink holding a grudge against him all season.

4/21/2009 8:42:10 AM

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nate salley and james anderson signed their RFA contracts yesterday, which is good.

4/21/2009 8:50:09 AM

dweedle
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^^ because you getting rid of your grudge will make him sleep better at night

4/21/2009 9:43:05 AM

hgtran
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i'm not getting my hopes up on Peppers getting traded before the draft

4/21/2009 10:45:12 AM

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McShay has the Panthers picking up Anthony Hill at TE in the 5th, I'd be all for that addition.

4/21/2009 4:10:09 PM

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ok what if the panthers told NE who to draft and then AFTER the draft we worked out a trade?

4/21/2009 10:58:40 PM

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mcshay is an idiot and must not realize that we have drafted a shitton of TE's and are loaded at that position right now. i'd be very very dissapointed if for some reason we took Hill.

4/22/2009 9:23:37 AM

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^ i agree. There are much greater needs. What we have now is fine at TE.

^^^^you never know what will happen before a draft, people start going crazy. That being said, I dont see a situation where it gets better for us. If people havent given up the picks by now, they arnt likely to do so now.

4/22/2009 10:51:51 AM

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^ of course they are. jared allen was traded on draft day. tons of stuff goes on the day of the draft. i wont be surprised either way if Peppers is here or gone come saturday night.

4/22/2009 11:08:48 AM

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I hope we trade Peppers to Philadelphia

If he is too much of a pussy to handle criticism from Panthers fans...

4/22/2009 11:52:52 AM

kevmcd86
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unfortunately we are in talks with the Bills for awful QB JP Losman

4/23/2009 2:08:58 PM

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^from what I read it was basically a passing inquiry...although I have no idea why they would even inquire about him....We have solid backups, with one or both more than capable of picking up for Jake....especially with our run game.

imo, we should be focused solely on depth @ both lines and @ CB.

4/23/2009 2:14:13 PM

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Aaaaaaand...... Delhomme just signed a 5yr/$42.5mil extension

4/23/2009 2:45:39 PM

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YES WE ARE SO LUCKY!

4/23/2009 2:46:46 PM

GenghisJohn
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i just don't know what to say here

4/23/2009 2:53:50 PM

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meh...haven't looked into it, but I can almost guarantee it shifts a good chunk of the money that was to go on this year's cap over the next few...just because its a 5 year deal, doesn't mean he'll be here 5 more....infact, I'd bet a large sum that he won't play it out.

What this may be an indicator of, however, is their intent/belief that pepps will be here next season.

4/23/2009 2:54:36 PM

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Oh the comments on the charlotte.com article will be priceless

So much Jake hate, how will they be able to concisely express it in a post confined by a 1000-character limit

4/23/2009 3:10:21 PM

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people chill out...this was expected as all it does is give us room on the cap.

4/23/2009 3:11:09 PM

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i guess this is technically offseason news...


but my mom pulled lauren delhomme's tooth out today at recess. woooo! (that smiley actually applies)

4/23/2009 3:19:06 PM

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jake

4/23/2009 3:29:58 PM

TreeTwista10
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should've just cut him and been content with going 5-11 with McCown or Moore at the helm

FUCK JAKE!!1

4/23/2009 3:33:21 PM

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^with our run game, I actually think we would compete if any of the 3 were at the helm.

we have one of the best ground games in the league, and the best we've ever had as a team.

[Edited on April 23, 2009 at 3:36 PM. Reason : .]

4/23/2009 3:35:52 PM

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Panthers pwnt through 2014.

Stay home.

4/23/2009 3:37:25 PM

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Panthers Super Bowl L Champs

4/23/2009 4:02:07 PM

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Jake is not a good QB. I'd take Moore any day, at least he hasn't proven that he sucks yet.

4/23/2009 6:06:22 PM

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Panthers + Super Bowl = L

4/23/2009 8:28:22 PM

TreeTwista10
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Ernie how old was Favre when he left Green Bay? I'm guessing a good number of years older than Jake currently is

4/23/2009 8:32:13 PM

Ernie
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37 or 38

But it doesn't really matter, he's an immortal superhero

4/23/2009 8:34:34 PM

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^^i'm gonna guess 2 or 3

but everyone knows delhomme is far superior to favre anyhow
Quote :
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Stay home.

"


TRUTH

[Edited on April 23, 2009 at 8:35 PM. Reason : .]

4/23/2009 8:34:45 PM

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we sure did have a shitty record last year with jake

4/23/2009 8:39:11 PM

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"Panthers + Super Bowl = L"


Whoops

I meant Panthers + Home Playoff Game + Bye Week = Humiliation

[Edited on April 23, 2009 at 8:42 PM. Reason : How'd Jake do that game? ]

4/23/2009 8:41:43 PM

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I was in the upper deck of the stadium and he didn't look too great

Aaron Rodgers probably had a better view though, from his couch

4/23/2009 8:43:25 PM

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