bootstraps

8/7/2009 6:43:53 PM

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"Wow. Just.... wow."

It's called taxes. Maybe we should rely on the goodness of people's hearts instead?

8/7/2009 6:44:15 PM

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"I know. there sure is an amazing lack of charities in this country. Man, there are no homeless shelters. No animal shelters. No one feeds the hungry. it sure sucks, doesn;t it"

8/7/2009 6:45:48 PM

why dont we all make the same salary regardless of occupation, and give he govt complete control over our daily lives since they can run our lives better

8/7/2009 6:46:50 PM

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"how do you explain how millions of european immigrants were able to prosper in America by starting out with little else than the clothes on their backs and without the forced, government charity you speak of? I have yet to see photos of these people dying in the streets during this period."

well, a lot of them joined the mafia, which you seem to have confused with the government.

^yes, because every social reform = communism.

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8/7/2009 6:50:16 PM

^^well now that's just silly

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8/7/2009 6:50:23 PM

^^^^ When your retarded thoughts are debunked, you post the same retarded thought again. Interesting strategy.

And about the immigrants, do you really want to live like they did to satisfy your ideological beliefs? Google image search "industrial revolution" for libertarianism run wild. Maybe you can put your 10 year old children to work in factories so the owners can buy another car.

Think about the poor people in the country. You think they would wake up and start working? Or steal all your shit in the absence of gov't benefits? How do you want to live?


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8/7/2009 6:51:03 PM

i want to live and work without the govt having my paychecks at their disoposal

8/7/2009 6:53:37 PM

Do you also want social order? B/c that paycheck means jack shit in the absence of it.

8/7/2009 6:54:25 PM

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"ARTICLES OF CONFEDERATION"

ftl

8/7/2009 6:55:15 PM

WE'RE LIVING IN A SOCIETY!

8/7/2009 6:55:25 PM

um, social order? are you saying there will be chaos without universal health care?

8/7/2009 6:55:55 PM

5^try working for a dirty contractor. paid under the table, no taxes, no insurance, no social security, no minimum wage. it'll be your dream come true. it'll be a sure upgrade in your life. i'm sure of it.

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8/7/2009 6:56:20 PM

no

but without the government taking your money to pay for things which create a society and social order that money means nothing.

8/7/2009 6:56:54 PM

why do americans have such a strong feeling of entitlement


i wonder if this universal health care covers patients with uncontrollable bleeding hearts

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8/7/2009 6:57:23 PM

we certainly don't need roads, education, police, firefighters, or the military

8/7/2009 6:58:15 PM

^but goddamnit, we need our guns and property.

^^ahhh, that's cute. too bad there's no medical cure for stupid

[Edited on August 7, 2009 at 7:00 PM. Reason : ]

8/7/2009 6:58:49 PM

are you entitled to money and a government that prints money and lets you use that money?

are you entitled to a government that protects your money?

8/7/2009 7:00:03 PM

we eat therefore we hunt

8/7/2009 7:00:16 PM

you seem to have a bleeding heart about your monies and your precious work which earned your monies that your government printed up all nice and neat.

8/7/2009 7:01:18 PM

(lots of ^) You weren't talking about healthcare. You were talking about the evil government in general.

[Edited on August 7, 2009 at 7:02 PM. Reason : .]

8/7/2009 7:01:26 PM

the government is inherently evil.

but you have to learn to love it for what it is and let it work for you.

8/7/2009 7:03:12 PM

8/7/2009 7:03:15 PM

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"why do americans have such a strong feeling of entitlement i wonder if this universal health care covers patients with uncontrollable bleeding hearts"

When backed into a corner, the scrappy conservative tries to evade his attacker with the last thing he heard from Hannity.

8/7/2009 7:05:36 PM

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"you seem to have a bleeding heart about your monies and your precious work which earned your monies that your government printed up all nice and neat."

that makes no sense


i know taxes are necessary, and dont disagree with them, im just against a government who lacks any control or frugality when it comes to taking and spending working people's income.

[Edited on August 7, 2009 at 7:07 PM. Reason : ]

8/7/2009 7:06:22 PM

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/personalities/chain-email/statements/

Lots of pants are on fire regarding health reform.

8/7/2009 7:06:33 PM

have your taxes gone up?

8/7/2009 7:06:55 PM

how many of these protesters are also birthers?

were they all tea-baggers too?

do they all still think obama is a muslim who pals around with terrorists?

how much of this fabricated vitriol at these town meetings is genuine? and how much of it is just outrage from a fringe of people who are just unwilling to accept the fact that a man named Barack is their president

this hate seems to not even be about healthcare. these people are just livid and i don't think they even know why

8/7/2009 7:10:38 PM

8/7/2009 7:12:25 PM

^ thats too funny to be real.

I can see some laugh it up hipster writing that

8/7/2009 7:13:44 PM

8/7/2009 7:17:11 PM

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"how many of these protesters are also birthers?"

that doesnt matter, theyre not running for president


i love how all the silly liberals are getting infuriated that someone else is utilizing the act of protesting. when liberals do it, its a noble action, when the right does it, they want to harness freedom of speech. give me a break.

these are also not just registered republicans, and a minority of them are part of grassroots groups, even though the media wants you to think otherwise.

8/7/2009 7:20:26 PM

i love the protesters. they're hilarious.

i also enjoy when far-left protesters get beaten by police. so there.

8/7/2009 7:22:01 PM

protesting is pretty much useless and most the time hilarious

8/7/2009 7:29:23 PM

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"i love how all the silly liberals are getting infuriated that someone else is utilizing the act of protesting. when liberals do it, its a noble action, when the right does it, they want to harness freedom of speech. give me a break."

nobody mentioned limiting free speech. but a town hall meeting is supposed to be an opportunity for civil discourse. that's not the case here. if you want to protest, that's fine, but its just stupid to ruin an opportunity to discuss and voice your opinion to your local politician when given the chance.

nobody is up in arms about this. nobody is saying that these people need to be muted. i just think it's stupid, and it's artificially raising the temperature of a hot topic. you and i both know that the goal here isn't to raise concern about healthcare, but rather to publicly denounce the president.

again, this is fine, but these eruptions aren't about healthcare, and its of my own opinion that these people are just mad for the sake of being mad. they're shouting things like "tyranny." when was the last time a tyrant offered healthcare for the entire populace? it just seems irrational at best.

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"that doesnt matter, theyre not running for president"

i'm not even sure what you mean with this comment. the point i'm making is that there is probably a high overlap of tea-baggers/birthers/town hall protesters.

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8/7/2009 7:30:08 PM

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"nobody mentioned limiting free speech."

many from the left have recently


these town hall meetings arnt even protests. they were organized by the representative, and they were attended by constituents. this is a heated issue and of course there will be heated responses. not all of the people there are that rowdy and not all the town hall meetings have taken this course, thats all played by the news.

8/7/2009 7:36:11 PM

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"many from the left have recently"

link?

oh SHIT, Obama To Create "Death Panel". Will off old people and Down Syndrome Kids!

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"The America I know and love is not one in which my parents or my baby with Down Syndrome will have to stand in front of Obama's "death panel" so his bureaucrats can decide, based on a subjective judgment of their "level of productivity in society," whether they are worthy of health care. Such a system is downright evil."

Sarah Palin, bringin' the TRUTH

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8/7/2009 7:38:05 PM

^ insurance companies already do this.

8/7/2009 7:41:26 PM

i could only imagine that a retarded baby would benefit the most from a public health option.

8/7/2009 7:43:13 PM

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"When your retarded thoughts are debunked, you post the same retarded thought again. Interesting strategy."

You didn't debunk shit. You just said the same fucking thing that I FUCKING DEBUNKED. So, I just debunked it again, troll.

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"are you entitled to money and a government that prints money and lets you use that money?"

You don't need a government to have money, you know.

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"are you entitled to a government that protects your money?"

And you think this government is protecting it? Have you ever heard of this thing called "inflation?" What do you think the government printing money like there is no tomorrow does to the value of your money? Is that really "protection?" Give me a fucking break.

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"when was the last time a tyrant offered healthcare for the entire populace?"

I believe a man named "Adolf Hitler" did a lot of things pertaining to health. Your point?

8/7/2009 7:43:32 PM

healthcare =/= extermination.

comparing something to adolf hitler or nazism has to be the lowest form of debate.



v what the hell does that even mean?

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8/7/2009 7:44:33 PM

no, but anti-tobacco research sure as hell is. Removing lead from the water sure as hell is. Pull your head out of your ass, dipshit

8/7/2009 7:45:04 PM

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"You don't need a government to have money, you know."

till trade you 5 big stones for your 15 little stones!

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"And you think this government is protecting it? Have you ever heard of this thing called "inflation?" What do you think the government printing money like there is no tomorrow does to the value of your money? Is that really "protection?" Give me a fucking break."

its more protection than having roaming bands of crust punks taking it from you and having their way with your wife.

8/7/2009 7:49:34 PM

I WANT MYYYY AMERICA BACK!

8/7/2009 7:50:04 PM

^^ That's just about what happens now, but feel free to think that it is any different.

^ I'm just curious. Do you hate people who want the government not to assrape them for votes?

8/7/2009 7:51:02 PM

ok and Clinton is the anti-Christ right?

8/7/2009 7:52:08 PM

nah, clinton was cool, g. He got blowjobs and shit

but, seriously. Gas in the 70s cost 25cents a gallon. If you took a 1974 quarter and melted it down and sold that metal, guess how much gas you could get? At least a gallon. How, then, do you think the government is "protecting your money." They've made it worthless, and you somehow think this is protection? How bout I jizz in your mouth and tell you that I am "protecting your teeth?"

8/7/2009 7:52:41 PM

haha, Chris Matthews just did all but fuck Jim Dean (Howard's brother) in the mouth on Hardball.

8/7/2009 7:55:37 PM

Oh, and as for other tyrants that offered universal healthcare, what about a man named "Joseph Stalin?"

8/7/2009 7:59:14 PM

also Gas in 1979 was 90 cents

8/7/2009 8:00:13 PM