ncsubozo All American 541 Posts user info edit post |
I guess I've heard the term strong or weak applied to both the first few picks and the overall depth independently. Either way theres never a year where people think that players 4-14 will be any good, and every year they point to the "strong classes" before and point out successful 4-14 picks. 5/18/2011 11:27:12 AM |
dweedle All American 77386 Posts user info edit post |
i keep half-forgetting that we have 2 first round picks
probably because i have high confidence that the picks will suck 5/18/2011 1:46:09 PM |
Maverick1024 All American 4866 Posts user info edit post |
Yeah, draft seems weak as ever this year. I know nothing about the supposed international talent, but the college crop is weak. Had Sullinger, Barnes, etc came out, it'd be a different story. The only player I'd feel great about taking is Derrick Williams.
The one mock draft I've seen has Texas PF Tristan Thompson to the Bobcats. Mehh 5/18/2011 2:20:53 PM |
dweedle All American 77386 Posts user info edit post |
ive seen 3 mocks
one has them taking leonard from SDSU, another says Jimmer, another says the boogiewoogie guy Biyombo (Congo)] 5/18/2011 2:30:49 PM |
Slave Famous Become Wrath 34079 Posts user info edit post |
If we take Jimmer
This town will revolt
With blood running in the streets 5/18/2011 2:33:10 PM |
dweedle All American 77386 Posts user info edit post |
the jimmer mock draft was from sporting news, so i wouldn't take too much stock in it
but if jordan can take a morrison, and a kwame twice, then i wouldn't put it past him to take another white scoring leader 5/18/2011 2:34:37 PM |
Slave Famous Become Wrath 34079 Posts user info edit post |
Because the Bobcats aren't important enough to warrant their own offseason thread
Hired an AZN as GM today. I like it. Anything is an improvement from Higgins. 6/14/2011 9:04:19 AM |
dweedle All American 77386 Posts user info edit post |
6/14/2011 9:11:08 AM |
Slave Famous Become Wrath 34079 Posts user info edit post |
He wouldn't even harm a fry... 6/14/2011 9:22:02 AM |
dweedle All American 77386 Posts user info edit post |
didnt realize we still had Higgins and just saw he was promoted
makes me think of the guy in "The Fatigues" when the dude was like "you PROMOTED him?? I BUST my hump every day..."
] 6/14/2011 7:41:05 PM |
DalesDeadBug In Pressed Silk 2978 Posts user info edit post |
Higgins should have been fired just because his drafts look so terrible. though i guess some of the blame goes to mr. micro-management Michael Jordan.
i found this to be the oddest part about this hire:
Quote : | "Cho is known for his eclectic background - he has been an engineer and a lawyer - and his experience in quantitative analysis. Higgins said those are strengths the Bobcats need." |
http://www.charlotteobserver.com/2011/06/14/2377417/bobcats-add-analytical-gm.html
how does that translate at all to basketball? time will tell, i suppose.6/14/2011 8:10:43 PM |
StingrayRush All American 14628 Posts user info edit post |
i didn't realize ra's al-ghul was basketball savvy. ain't that some shit 6/14/2011 8:11:11 PM |
dweedle All American 77386 Posts user info edit post |
Workout #8 on Thursday will include Cory Higgins, son Rod Higgins. 6/15/2011 3:15:55 PM |
DalesDeadBug In Pressed Silk 2978 Posts user info edit post |
it's (even more) obvious Rick Bonnell is out of his mind:
Quote : | "I'm certainly not suggesting those are the only three players they like. But in this draft, where it's so challenging to predict an order, might it make sense to go ahead and pick Singleton ninth and Brooks or Vucevic 19th? Those might be "reaches'' according to some draft pundit, but in a murky draft, why not trust your own instincts? " |
http://blogs.charlotte.com/inside_the_nba/2011/06/quick-thoughts-from-the-workout.html
The problem is, the biggest need is for a 3 point shooter and a scoring type guard, or maybe a scoring small forward. He has written multiple articles, all saying as much, directly from Paul Silas' mouth. So then he goes and suggests they take a defensive SF, or a rebounding PF. i'll take his damn job, i could do much better.6/15/2011 4:30:02 PM |
dweedle All American 77386 Posts user info edit post |
first reaction is i wouldnt mind Singleton at 9 since it doesn't look like he'd last to 19 6/16/2011 6:39:12 PM |
DalesDeadBug In Pressed Silk 2978 Posts user info edit post |
yeah i would be ok with that, apparently his offensive game is beginning to catch up to his defensive game.
my point was that Bonnell writes all these articles about what the 'Cats need (3 point shooting), then he suggests something that is just about the exact opposite (Singleton) 6/16/2011 7:45:41 PM |
dweedle All American 77386 Posts user info edit post |
lol Bonnell is on David Glenn right now 6/20/2011 2:10:38 PM |
tracer All American 13876 Posts user info edit post |
did he rant about how people commenting on his blog didnt know as much as him and were completely wrong? 6/20/2011 2:27:19 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148439 Posts user info edit post |
i liked his one blog where everybody was dropping f bombs and he was cool with it for about 30 minutes 6/20/2011 2:31:14 PM |
Slave Famous Become Wrath 34079 Posts user info edit post |
I've give my left nut to see Bonnell try to hold his own on Around the Horn 6/20/2011 2:43:08 PM |
DalesDeadBug In Pressed Silk 2978 Posts user info edit post |
hell i'd like to see him try to hold his own in this thread
he's such a clown 6/20/2011 5:44:18 PM |
Slave Famous Become Wrath 34079 Posts user info edit post |
I'm disregarding anything you say out of principle until you give us a follow up on your date from last week 6/20/2011 5:46:32 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148439 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Charlotte Bobcats forward Boris Diaw has exercised his player option for next season that will pay him $9 million." |
great 6/21/2011 5:51:50 PM |
DalesDeadBug In Pressed Silk 2978 Posts user info edit post |
well, i can't blame him. that's a pretty sweet deal to only put out effort once every 10 games and collect $9 million. 6/21/2011 7:04:57 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148439 Posts user info edit post |
i dont blame him, i just hope we can find another team dumb enough to trade for him 6/21/2011 7:06:56 PM |
DalesDeadBug In Pressed Silk 2978 Posts user info edit post |
maybe the Raptors. they like foreigners. 6/21/2011 7:12:29 PM |
face All American 8503 Posts user info edit post |
1) I agree with bozo's general sentiments about the draft hype but I will say this year's is particularly weak at the top. I think a lot of that is because of the likely lockout. Everyone who could went pro last year, and many who could this year are sticking around one more year.
2) I love Biyombo because he could be a potential defensive superstar in this league. I'd take him at #9 and kill for him at #19. I also really like Jordan Hamilton he seems like a solid offensive player and a great defender. Also, I like the flexibility he seems to have to play/defend the 2 and 3. Jackson is on his last legs and we have minutes open from the Wallace trade. Chris Singleton I could definitely get behind. Again, he's a two way player. The way to win in the NBA is to get guys who play both ways (G.Wallace, Deron, etc) or are legitimate superstars at one of the ends (Durant, Ibaka, etc).
That being said I think we'll take Marcus Morris even though our best player Tyrus Thomas is a young, quality, PF with a long contract.
3) Of course Diaw took the money. He'd get like 2 years $9 million from most teams and MAYBE 5 yrs, $30 if some dumb team were really desperate.
4) The new GM is a quantitative analysis guy. All the leading NBA minds are now. Look at Dallas for instance who just won the championship. A few years ago it was only Darryl Morey but now it's pretty prevalent throughout the top teams front offices. Surprisingly, basketball is almost as easy to evaluate as baseball with quantative analysis. That's why I talk about it so much.
5) Lastly, I bet Vince Carter ends up as a Bobcat. He probably won't get a huge payday and we have the space to give him like 5 years, $40 million. He's washed up but he's still playable and he'd be slightly marketable for a franchise that has never done a good job marketing itself. In the long run it'd be a terrible move to give him that many years or that much money, but I could see Jordan and co. doing it. Unless the Asian has a say.
[Edited on June 21, 2011 at 7:20 PM. Reason : a] 6/21/2011 7:18:27 PM |
Slave Famous Become Wrath 34079 Posts user info edit post |
The team is going to give Gerald Henderson every opportunity to blossom. No way in hell they sign a fat lazy malcontent like Carter to block his path. Give me two solid rookies this year, a shit record and a top 6 pick next year, and maybe we can finally start to contend in 2013. 6/22/2011 9:12:55 AM |
DalesDeadBug In Pressed Silk 2978 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Part of the reason I'm here is to offer unsolicited advice.
Four times I have recommended that the Bobcats draft a particular player.
In 2005, I wrote they should trade the fifth and 13th picks, move up to No. 3 and take Wake Forest guard Chris Paul. The trade was available. They took North Carolina's Raymond Felton and Scott May.
In 2006, I wrote they should use the third pick on Washington guard Brandon Roy. They took Gonzaga forward Adam Morrison.
In 2008, I wrote they should use the ninth pick on Texas point guard D.J. Augustin. They should have taken Stanford center Brook Lopez. They took Augustin.
In 2009, I wrote that they should use the 12th pick on Pittsburgh big man DeJuan Blair. Because of concerns about his knees, Blair didn't go until - let's check - 37. The Bobcats took Duke guard Gerald Henderson. Blair has the superior career, but Henderson probably has the superior potential.
My credibility is good." |
http://www.charlotteobserver.com/2011/06/23/2399575/listen-this-time-take-biyombo.html#storylink=omni_popular
only Bonnell could have written this piece of fine journalism, bragging about how smart he is in hindsight (no author is listed in the article).
you guys remember Scott May? he was the next great PF.6/23/2011 2:48:24 AM |
face All American 8503 Posts user info edit post |
Literally everyone wanted us to take Paul, Roy, and lopez
Holy shit I still like biyombo but I think you have to take kahwi his stats are ridiculous
25% dreb and 12% oreb from a sf???? He's the next Marion or Wallace, you can't pass up a sure thing 6/23/2011 9:03:42 AM |
Slave Famous Become Wrath 34079 Posts user info edit post |
Sorensen wrote that 6/23/2011 9:53:35 AM |
Slave Famous Become Wrath 34079 Posts user info edit post |
I keep seeing Iman Shumpert to us in mocks
Isn't he basically a clone of Gerald Henderson?
Also, lol
[Edited on June 23, 2011 at 11:08 AM. Reason : x] 6/23/2011 11:04:43 AM |
dweedle All American 77386 Posts user info edit post |
i was just about to post
BERnie BICKerstaff HEAd COach MINNesota TIMberwolves
then have rubio spinning a ball on his finger bobbing his head 6/23/2011 11:12:54 AM |
Slave Famous Become Wrath 34079 Posts user info edit post |
How can you only emphasize part of a one syllable word? 6/23/2011 11:13:48 AM |
dweedle All American 77386 Posts user info edit post |
i dunno but he does it 6/23/2011 11:18:10 AM |
dweedle All American 77386 Posts user info edit post |
6/23/2011 11:22:18 AM |
Slave Famous Become Wrath 34079 Posts user info edit post |
6/23/2011 2:00:14 PM |
hey now Indianapolis Jones 14975 Posts user info edit post |
Tonight is the night I become a Bobcats fan. I've got to get my mojo back that was lost when Yinka Dare retired. 6/23/2011 2:03:27 PM |
DalesDeadBug In Pressed Silk 2978 Posts user info edit post |
They don't got any. I writes good. 6/23/2011 2:16:18 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148439 Posts user info edit post |
Kilgo just interviewed Dell Curry on Bustin Loose
you'd think somebody that old, who announced all of Steph's games at Davidson, would be able to call the motherfucker Dell Curry, instead of DALE CURRY 6/23/2011 2:49:07 PM |
face All American 8503 Posts user info edit post |
Biyombo might be out he is rumored to have a buyout.
If we don't end up with faried or Hamilton at 19 ill be mad 6/23/2011 3:07:42 PM |
DalesDeadBug In Pressed Silk 2978 Posts user info edit post |
getting Hamilton at 19 would be awesome
but i doubt he lasts that long 6/23/2011 3:48:55 PM |
kevmcd86 All American 5832 Posts user info edit post |
i remember sitting in my house in college w. jeffshelton a few years ago and said to him after a discussion about the Charlotte Tarholes "if the bobcats draft Brandon Wright i will officially never root for them again , ever"
2 seconds later, the Bobcats draft Brandon Wright. 6/23/2011 3:58:40 PM |
Slave Famous Become Wrath 34079 Posts user info edit post |
Yeah he had a great 45 minute career with us 6/23/2011 3:59:24 PM |
kevmcd86 All American 5832 Posts user info edit post |
IT'S THE PRINCIPLE. STUPID TARHOLE TEAM 6/23/2011 4:01:36 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148439 Posts user info edit post |
Im on the Kemba bandwagon 6/23/2011 4:02:44 PM |
kevmcd86 All American 5832 Posts user info edit post |
I hope MJ drafts Javi Gonzalez 6/23/2011 4:04:01 PM |
DalesDeadBug In Pressed Silk 2978 Posts user info edit post |
Burks
or Kemba
no Morris twins 6/23/2011 4:05:02 PM |
dweedle All American 77386 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "@WojYahooNBA Adrian Wojnarowski Milwaukee has a three-way deal with Charlotte and Sacramento, sources say." |
[Edited on June 23, 2011 at 4:22 PM. Reason : it's not gay, if it's in a three-way]6/23/2011 4:22:17 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148439 Posts user info edit post |
yeah heard about that, sounds like an ultra complicated deal that doesnt excite me at all 6/23/2011 4:23:22 PM |