Chance Suspended 4725 Posts user info edit post |
Yep. It really is nothing more than a spin of the roulette wheel that this thing at least pulls back a little before another thrust higher. It's usually a terrible idea to go against a strong trend which is why I put such a small amount on this trade. 6/28/2011 5:31:33 PM |
Mr. Joshua Swimfanfan 43948 Posts user info edit post |
With the price where it is I would have just sold a naked call at 16 instead of going out of pocket. On the other hand I never do options on such a short time period unless I'm betting on an earnings report. 6/28/2011 5:34:30 PM |
Chance Suspended 4725 Posts user info edit post |
I'd rather be a seller myself but with buying a put my max loss is defined, I need not bother with setting stops which just don't work well with options because of the wide bid/ask (on everything except the most liquid of stocks). With a call if this thing continues to trend hard then I have to bother with setting some sort of a stop loss and I'm going to eat .05 (at least) on the b/a spread + I'm exposed to a gapped open + the extra commission to transact the trade.
It's such a lame trade profit/loss/capital wise I ordinarily wouldn't put it on but I was a little bored today and figured the only way I keep following this stock is if I make it count in some way. 6/28/2011 5:44:07 PM |
BobbyDigital Thots and Prayers 41777 Posts user info edit post |
Awesome write up on the investigation/prosecution of Raj Rajaratnam, recently convicted of insider trading while heading The Galleon hedge fund.
http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2011/06/27/110627fa_fact_packer?currentPage=all
Long read, but worth it. 6/29/2011 9:17:57 AM |
Chance Suspended 4725 Posts user info edit post |
This has to instill some confidence in the continued short term strength of SOLR stock
http://tinyurl.com/3vyheo7 6/29/2011 7:20:01 PM |
ShawnaC123 2019 Egg Champ 46681 Posts user info edit post |
My Starbucks stock has gone up 50% since I bought it. Winning. Too bad that only makes like a $30 increase. 6/30/2011 9:26:02 AM |
mofopaack Veteran 434 Posts user info edit post |
http://www.indexuniverse.com/sections/news/9465-morgan-stanley-rolls-out-oil-equity-etn.html
This looks interesting. Gives you crude oil exposure and equity exposure of oil companies. 6/30/2011 9:32:20 AM |
statehockey8 All American 947 Posts user info edit post |
^ Not worth it. You could find cheaper ways to produce equity/oil exposure without eating the 85bp mgmt fee. Simplest move - go with SPY for 50% that's going to be sitting in the S&P 500.
For the most part equity linked ETNs are not worth it (we rolled out a few - DOD, SETI, WIDEMOAT, etc - a few years ago and the market never took off) - commodity linked ETNs on the other hand are OK. 6/30/2011 9:44:41 AM |
hockydries All American 589 Posts user info edit post |
You guys think we are going to see some profit taking tomorrow or will the apparent rally continue? Trying to decide what to do with some of my short term holdings. 6/30/2011 12:30:30 PM |
tmmercer All American 2290 Posts user info edit post |
Thinking about taking some profits on SOLR 6/30/2011 12:39:53 PM |
hockydries All American 589 Posts user info edit post |
^When will they announce earnings with their quarter ending 7/2? 6/30/2011 1:19:04 PM |
tmmercer All American 2290 Posts user info edit post |
8/01 6/30/2011 3:53:43 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148439 Posts user info edit post |
finally some bounceback with HTCH 6/30/2011 4:10:24 PM |
mofopaack Veteran 434 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "^ Not worth it. You could find cheaper ways to produce equity/oil exposure without eating the 85bp mgmt fee. Simplest move - go with SPY for 50% that's going to be sitting in the S&P 500.
For the most part equity linked ETNs are not worth it (we rolled out a few - DOD, SETI, WIDEMOAT, etc - a few years ago and the market never took off) - commodity linked ETNs on the other hand are OK." |
Its not solely an equity linked ETN, its a hybrid that includes crude futures, ie commodity....which was the point of the article. It provides beta exposure, which is what you suggested with SPY, and provide an inflation hedge through commodity futures. So basically you agree with this investment in a round about way (aside from the mgmt fee)6/30/2011 4:19:22 PM |
tmmercer All American 2290 Posts user info edit post |
where is face 7/1/2011 3:16:10 PM |
Mr. Joshua Swimfanfan 43948 Posts user info edit post |
I'd imagine that he's in a bunker with one of those Waterworld coffee machines that turns pee into drinking water. 7/1/2011 3:19:06 PM |
hockydries All American 589 Posts user info edit post |
Glad I held onto my GT today. Up almost 6% since I bought in on Wed. 7/1/2011 3:36:50 PM |
alexwbush All American 3344 Posts user info edit post |
I've got LINC and I've had it for a couple months. Well it was around $17 and I said no way it'll get beyond $17.50 so I sold a call. Then Friday it went up almost 9% to $18.60. Bad call!!
Oh well, bought in at 15.7, so I guess either way I make some money... but now I've got to wait until end of August. 7/2/2011 12:29:31 PM |
skokiaan All American 26447 Posts user info edit post |
Where/HOW do you guys buy precious metals?
[Edited on July 4, 2011 at 11:27 AM. Reason : .] 7/4/2011 11:26:50 AM |
David0603 All American 12764 Posts user info edit post |
I have a mutual fund with a bunch of natural resources in it. 7/4/2011 1:30:29 PM |
mbrown3 Veteran 453 Posts user info edit post |
What's a good site for a beginner to start trading? 7/4/2011 6:27:05 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148439 Posts user info edit post |
I use eTrade. It's $9.95 per trade though and there are cheaper options, but their mobile app is pretty awesome. 7/4/2011 6:32:43 PM |
alexwbush All American 3344 Posts user info edit post |
I use tradeking $4.95 per trade. I am closing my etrade account as it's the same info for twice the cost per trade. PM me and I can send you an invite and we can both get $50 if you open an account. I learned through their learning center and webinars. 7/4/2011 7:05:44 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148439 Posts user info edit post |
anyone own any SIRI (Sirius XM)? at $2.19 but has had a nice upward trend over the last couple years 7/4/2011 8:39:29 PM |
face All American 8503 Posts user info edit post |
Last week was bizarre I gotta admit. All the economic news was bad and the market went on a tear. I guess short term a lot of people thought it was oversold. Its possible the recession has already begun why are we buying stocks 7/5/2011 8:08:10 AM |
tmmercer All American 2290 Posts user info edit post |
1985, are you still holding SOLR? 7/5/2011 11:51:13 AM |
1985 All American 2175 Posts user info edit post |
My stop limit triggered at ~ 15.50. I wasn't ready to get out yet so i bought back in this morning at ~ 16.15. I knew I should have set my limit for larger volatility but I only missed 4% and my trading fee.
At this point I don't think SOLR is rising on anything other than hype, it seems way overbought. 7/5/2011 1:30:34 PM |
tmmercer All American 2290 Posts user info edit post |
technical wise-yes its overbought, fundamentals wise, I think we are still undervalued 7/5/2011 2:35:34 PM |
Mr. Joshua Swimfanfan 43948 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Impressive run by AAPL on its way to $200" |
7/5/2011 3:56:20 PM |
WolfpackKC Veteran 481 Posts user info edit post |
^this 7/5/2011 5:50:42 PM |
d357r0y3r Jimmies: Unrustled 8198 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Where/HOW do you guys buy precious metals?" |
Kitco is what I've used in the past. You can buy from local vendors, but there is a premium for physical metal. For instance, you're probably not going to be able to find silver rounds for less than 45 an ounce, despite the fact that spot silver is at ~35. Only some of that is profit on the part of the local vendor. Spot silver has been manipulated by various actors, and COMEX doesn't actually have as much silver as most people thought, so you've got two separate prices for readily deliverable PMs and "paper" PMs.7/5/2011 6:05:45 PM |
skokiaan All American 26447 Posts user info edit post |
I don't need to have physical bullion. Anyone use those where they keep it in some vault for you? 7/5/2011 10:41:05 PM |
Mr. Joshua Swimfanfan 43948 Posts user info edit post |
The problem with physical bullion is that you then have to worry about people like Auric Goldfinger irradiating your stockpile to increase the value of their own. 7/5/2011 11:45:46 PM |
alexwbush All American 3344 Posts user info edit post |
^haha 7/6/2011 2:40:44 AM |
Spontaneous All American 27372 Posts user info edit post |
Today I realized that Auric's name stars with "Au". 7/6/2011 2:31:46 PM |
pryderi Suspended 26647 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | " S&P Would Lower U.S. Credit Rating to D on Failure to Increase Debt Limit
June 30 (Bloomberg) -- Jerome Fons, an executive vice president at Kroll Bond Ratings Inc., discusses the outlook for the U.S. credit rating if the government fails to increase the debt limit, leading to a default. Standard & Poor’s said it would lower the U.S.'s sovereign top-level AAA ranking to D and Moody’s Investors Service said it will probably reduce its rating if the U.S. can't pay its debt. Fons speaks with Erik Schatzker on Bloomberg Television's "InsideTrack." (Source: Bloomberg)
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http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-06-29/moody-s-would-likely-cut-u-s-debt-rating-to-aa-range-in-event-of-default.html
Greece's rating is triple C right now and ours will be worse if the GOP keeps fucking around.7/6/2011 2:35:02 PM |
Mr. Joshua Swimfanfan 43948 Posts user info edit post |
This thread will have a triple F rating if pryderi keeps shitting in it. 7/6/2011 2:43:35 PM |
face All American 8503 Posts user info edit post |
Well fuck Armon Gilliam died. Be careful out there Johnny NNNNNNNNNEEEWWWWWMAN 7/6/2011 3:18:42 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148439 Posts user info edit post |
Good night...sweet prince
7/6/2011 4:19:20 PM |
alexwbush All American 3344 Posts user info edit post |
another day... starting to think I need to sell off some things and get back in on the dip 7/6/2011 7:28:41 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148439 Posts user info edit post |
HTCH had a great day 7/6/2011 7:34:43 PM |
smoothcrim Universal Magnetic! 18966 Posts user info edit post |
bought apple at 320, probly a good time to dump 7/6/2011 9:18:02 PM |
Mr. Joshua Swimfanfan 43948 Posts user info edit post |
trailing stop 7/6/2011 9:44:26 PM |
ssjamind All American 30102 Posts user info edit post |
part of my EDC got trailing stopped out... overall i'm still 'risk on' since my last post.
come late August, September, and October, Greece will rear its ugly head again, and so will Portugal and maybe even Spain. that selloff will likely present another 6 week or more decline leading to buying opportunities that you can then ride into the end of the year.
i'm looking to add TYH soon and/or on down days and am even reluctantly considering FAS. 7/6/2011 11:36:23 PM |
hockydries All American 589 Posts user info edit post |
Closing out half of my GT position today. Looking at picking up either BAC or a consumer disc. like a retail clothing holding. Any thoughts or suggestions? It would likely be a 1-3 month holding (or less if I it pops early). I am thinking that at some point financials have to take off a bit, but not sure if I want to sit around and wait for it. 7/7/2011 10:07:50 AM |
hockydries All American 589 Posts user info edit post |
^Got my limit order in a little late...now going to hang onto the GT until it gets back to 18 which is my target for the position....still looking for the next position though...just gives me a little longer to look for it! 7/7/2011 11:19:40 AM |
Mr. Joshua Swimfanfan 43948 Posts user info edit post |
New Way High-Speed Traders Get Edge on Investors http://www.cnbc.com/id/43674514 7/7/2011 4:01:07 PM |
Chance Suspended 4725 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | ""Firms know that if they send enough quotes, it slows down the tape," said Arnuk. The firms can then fill a retail order based on the slower public quote, while it simultaneously trades on information it gathers essentially milliseconds into the future through its faster direct feeds, said the market infrastructure expert who advised the SEC after last year’s infamous "flash crash."" |
I just don't get how this isn't the definition of front running. It would be great if the SEC would grow a fucking spine and put a stop to this shit.7/7/2011 5:31:57 PM |
face All American 8503 Posts user info edit post |
Oh my fucking god. Shut it down before this baby collapses. 18k hahaha 7/8/2011 8:47:14 AM |
hockydries All American 589 Posts user info edit post |
Wow...what happened? Closing out my gains and going to cash! 7/8/2011 8:51:31 AM |