TerdFerguson All American 6600 Posts user info edit post |
I can see Clarence Thomas's dissent now: Scribbled in purple crayon, "THE DEMOCRATS ARE HIPOCRITS, THEY DID THIS ONCE TOOOOOOOOO."
[Edited on January 22, 2018 at 5:51 AM. Reason : Have you googled gerrymandering algorithms yet aaronburro? ] 1/22/2018 5:48:56 AM |
aaronburro Sup, B 53065 Posts user info edit post |
Hell, we're still shocked that Thomas said something in court last year. Crayons would be asking a lot of him 1/22/2018 10:52:28 PM |
A Tanzarian drip drip boom 10995 Posts user info edit post |
Looks like Pennsylvania will get new maps for midterms. 2/5/2018 2:23:52 PM |
TerdFerguson All American 6600 Posts user info edit post |
http://www.scotusblog.com/2018/04/opinion-analysis-court-bars-lawsuits-against-foreign-corporations-under-alien-tort-statute/
Nothing to see here, just Scotus carrying water for corporations again. 4/25/2018 2:35:05 PM |
NyM410 J-E-T-S 50085 Posts user info edit post |
McConnell is so civil. It would be really uncivil to call him a shitstain on the human race so I won’t do it.
Also, Earl told me Trump wouldn’t nominate conservative judges. 6/26/2018 10:37:40 AM |
rwoody Save TWW 37695 Posts user info edit post |
This shit is infuriating 6/26/2018 10:45:25 AM |
dtownral Suspended 26632 Posts user info edit post |
does the planned parenthood decision also mean that abortion clinics can no longer be required to disclose other options or have required statements? 6/26/2018 11:11:52 AM |
Exiled Eyes up here ^^ 5918 Posts user info edit post |
SCOTUS 2 for 2 today apparently. Travel Ban upheld. 6/26/2018 11:21:25 AM |
dtownral Suspended 26632 Posts user info edit post |
most expected the travel ban being upheld 6/26/2018 11:39:03 AM |
dtownral Suspended 26632 Posts user info edit post |
RIP labor unions 6/27/2018 10:08:17 AM |
NCSUALUM Veteran 438 Posts user info edit post |
About damn time we get rid of unions. Great day 6/27/2018 1:11:39 PM |
Bullet All American 28417 Posts user info edit post |
Why? 6/27/2018 1:41:29 PM |
NyM410 J-E-T-S 50085 Posts user info edit post |
Kennedy retiring.
Trump is going to make the court solid conservative with no swing for the rest of our lives. Donald fucking Trump.
[Edited on June 27, 2018 at 2:05 PM. Reason : X] 6/27/2018 2:05:09 PM |
HCH All American 3895 Posts user info edit post |
What if I told you, Gorsuch had a more liberal voting record than Kennedy? 6/27/2018 2:12:04 PM |
NyM410 J-E-T-S 50085 Posts user info edit post |
Maybe in sum but Roe v Wade is gone as we know it almost assuredly. 6/27/2018 2:14:55 PM |
Bullet All American 28417 Posts user info edit post |
lol, did you just google this article? https://reason.com/blog/2018/06/27/neil-gorsuch-was-more-liberal-than-antho 6/27/2018 2:16:05 PM |
JesusHChrist All American 4458 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Kennedy retiring." |
and RBG honestly may not make it to the end of the term(s).6/27/2018 2:22:23 PM |
thegoodlife3 All American 39304 Posts user info edit post |
welp 6/27/2018 2:25:54 PM |
dtownral Suspended 26632 Posts user info edit post |
fuck every one of the god damn spineless democrats who decided acting civil was more important than losing their god damn shit when their nomination was stolen 6/27/2018 2:28:10 PM |
NyM410 J-E-T-S 50085 Posts user info edit post |
Lol there are going to be 3 liberals on the court soon after Dems winning the popular vote in 6 or the last 7 presidential elections. Cool system we got here..
[Edited on June 27, 2018 at 2:36 PM. Reason : Praying RBG holds on] 6/27/2018 2:35:36 PM |
JesusHChrist All American 4458 Posts user info edit post |
^^not only that, an act of defiance early on during the Trump presidency would have played well to their constituency.
Not only was it spineless, it would have cost them NOTHING. And still they chose not to do it. 6/27/2018 2:37:10 PM |
HCH All American 3895 Posts user info edit post |
Kennedy will not be welcome at the Red Hen. 6/27/2018 2:41:30 PM |
thegoodlife3 All American 39304 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Christian Finnegan (@ChristFinnegan):
Dem senators, repeat after me:
“The President of the United States is under investigation for collusion with a foreign adversary and obstruction of justice. There can be no SCOTUS replacement until he’s been cleared.”" |
6/27/2018 3:17:36 PM |
synapse play so hard 60939 Posts user info edit post |
Hopefully having the previous nomination stolen from them will motivate the Democrats to quit laying down and pursue something like that, but I'm not holding my breath.
Their prospects in the House look pretty favorable at the moment, but unfortunately for them, as it relates to this development, that's not the case in the Senate.
[Edited on June 27, 2018 at 7:38 PM. Reason : GOP is much better at politics] 6/27/2018 7:36:46 PM |
bubster5041 All American 1164 Posts user info edit post |
It probably secures the Senate for Republicans. The prospect of getting one nomination got Trump elected. Surely another will turn out the r voters to keep some pasty old white guys in office. 6/27/2018 8:53:31 PM |
synapse play so hard 60939 Posts user info edit post |
I argue it was already secured for the Republicans before today. 6/27/2018 8:55:12 PM |
bubster5041 All American 1164 Posts user info edit post |
Yea I guess cemented might be a better word. 6/27/2018 10:33:12 PM |
TerdFerguson All American 6600 Posts user info edit post |
I really want to see Dems go down swinging on this, but I do think it'll result in a loss ultimately. The GOP will go nuclear on the filibuster and Newt Gingrich will be our next justice. The history books will point to this as the event that finally killed the "world's greatest deliberative body" (which is joke in itself).
Conservatives will challenge every law and policy in our lifetimes to the Supreme Court. Which basically makes it impossible for me to believe that government will be able to address any of the existential problems that plague our country. The future is dim.
[Edited on June 28, 2018 at 8:00 AM. Reason : if it hurts Dems chances of taking the Senate, I'm still ok with punching hard on this. ] 6/28/2018 7:59:36 AM |
HUR All American 17732 Posts user info edit post |
Time for the #CalExit and #Cascadia succession to begin 6/28/2018 5:07:38 PM |
rwoody Save TWW 37695 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "The GOP will go nuclear on the filibuster and Newt Gingrich will be our next justice" |
Uhhhh who wants to tell him?6/28/2018 5:31:57 PM |
TerdFerguson All American 6600 Posts user info edit post |
derp, for some reason I thought the filibuster was still in effect for supreme court nominees (but not for other judges or presidential appointees).
6/28/2018 5:42:19 PM |
rwoody Save TWW 37695 Posts user info edit post |
Yea they dumped that shit for gorsuch. If they can't get a republican or 2 to defect its basically done until there is a new democratic president. 6/28/2018 6:10:38 PM |
TerdFerguson All American 6600 Posts user info edit post |
(This line of questioning in the hearings is the only thing that can stop Justice Gingrich.)
6/28/2018 6:58:03 PM |
bubster5041 All American 1164 Posts user info edit post |
Unfortunately, he can nominate someone much less polarizing that Newt and accomplish every bit of what you describe. 6/28/2018 11:47:39 PM |
moron All American 34142 Posts user info edit post |
re the Travel Ban...
Imagine if Obama had gone around for a year saying he would ban Christians from coming here, enacted a policy that looked like a Christian ban, defended the policy after it was put in place at a campaign rally as a Christian ban-- can anyone see the court ruling the same way?
It seems like we have enough precedent and laws about separation of church and state and religious discrimination, that they would have found some way to make those things apply, without this specific statute having to specify "btw you can't use travel bans as part of a bigoted agenda". 6/29/2018 1:06:17 AM |
synapse play so hard 60939 Posts user info edit post |
Except Christians make up like 80% of the US population and Muslims are closer to 1%, and there's the whole jihad against the US thing.
The Buddists would be a better example...if their most extreme factions declared war on us that is. 6/29/2018 2:27:32 AM |
dtownral Suspended 26632 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Trump to Justice Kennedy: "That's very nice coming from you. And say hello to your boy, special guy." Kennedy: "Your kids have been very nice to him." Trump: "They love him, and they love him in New York. He's a great guy."" |
https://twitter.com/ScottMStedman/status/1012580567349489666
Kennedy's son worked closely with Trump while loaning him over $1B while rising to the head of real estate capital markets with deutsche bank6/29/2018 11:13:13 AM |
synapse play so hard 60939 Posts user info edit post |
^ not bad. Most posts I see on the issue say that Kennedy's son personally loaned the billion.
[Edited on June 30, 2018 at 12:51 PM. Reason : You buried the employment, but at least you mentioned it.]] 6/30/2018 12:50:59 PM |
dtownral Suspended 26632 Posts user info edit post |
Should I make another post about how Deutsche bank launder Russian money? 6/30/2018 4:32:25 PM |
synapse play so hard 60939 Posts user info edit post |
If you want?
I think that's how it works around here... 6/30/2018 6:26:54 PM |
TerdFerguson All American 6600 Posts user info edit post |
It should raise the eyebrows of any reasonable person. Any sane person, much less a savvy banker, wouldn’t loan Trump $1,000 and expect to be paid back.
A $BILLION$ fucking dollars? 6/30/2018 7:37:27 PM |
dtownral Suspended 26632 Posts user info edit post |
They were giving Trump money during the bottom of the last recession 6/30/2018 8:15:17 PM |
rjrumfel All American 23027 Posts user info edit post |
What do you guys think about Barrett? I don't know much about her, but it looks like she's in Trump's crosshairs to be the next SCOTUS member. She's conservative, Christian, and had quite a few Dem votes when she was confirmed. 7/3/2018 9:12:01 AM |
dtownral Suspended 26632 Posts user info edit post |
no way
[Edited on July 3, 2018 at 9:21 AM. Reason : also, no chance] 7/3/2018 9:20:04 AM |
rjrumfel All American 23027 Posts user info edit post |
No way as in you don't like her? Or no way Trump picks her? 7/3/2018 9:20:43 AM |
dtownral Suspended 26632 Posts user info edit post |
yes 7/3/2018 9:21:33 AM |
aaronburro Sup, B 53065 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "re the Travel Ban...
Imagine if Obama had gone around for a year saying he would ban Christians from coming here, enacted a policy that looked like a Christian ban, defended the policy after it was put in place at a campaign rally as a Christian ban-- can anyone see the court ruling the same way?
It seems like we have enough precedent and laws about separation of church and state and religious discrimination, that they would have found some way to make those things apply, without this specific statute having to specify "btw you can't use travel bans as part of a bigoted agenda"" |
It depends. Did Obama say this as only a candidate, or did he say it while holding the elected office for which he was making the policy? The Court has been extremely hesitant to hold candidates' words against them, because candidates tend to go off on less-than-calculated tangents to rile up crowds. They are also hesitant to guess at an elected official's motives without hard evidence to support it. Had Darth Cheeto said those things as President, there's absolutely no doubt that it gets struck down, similar to how NC's voter ID law got struck down largely on the basis of the email exchanges about race.
There's no doubt in my mind that Trump wanted to ban Muslims, but he did a damn good job hiding that intent while President. That's what mattered when it came to a facially neutral policy which was well within his statutory and Constitutional authority. The Court didn't want to set a precedent that candidates need to parse every single word they say on the campaign trail with an eye to future Constitutional challenges. It also probably didn't hurt that he softened the travel ban's restrictions7/4/2018 11:50:27 PM |
BJCaudill21 Not an alcoholic 8015 Posts user info edit post |
Well...?? 7/9/2018 9:41:16 PM |
moron All American 34142 Posts user info edit post |
^^ He called it a Muslim ban during his campaign rallies he held after being elected office.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2017/06/11/what-president-trump-has-said-about-muslims-travel-ban/102565166/
Trump doesn’t do anything carefully btw— literally the only thing he’s careful about is doing anything to upset Russia. 7/9/2018 9:51:42 PM |
Exiled Eyes up here ^^ 5918 Posts user info edit post |
Picks a judge that doesn't believe a President should be prosecuted or have to deal with legal matters while in office.
Nothing to see here folks. 7/10/2018 7:26:00 AM |