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GrayFox33
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12/17/2012 3:31:51 PM

se7entythree
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i'm not super fond of any politician but that pic makes me

12/17/2012 3:40:34 PM

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propaganda will have that effect

12/17/2012 3:50:16 PM

Bullet
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you think he's being genuine? then you've just been propagandizized!!!

12/17/2012 4:11:33 PM

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obama luv da kids

12/17/2012 4:24:29 PM

se7entythree
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so what if i think it's a cute picture? that doesn't mean i like or agree with him (or replace him with any other politician, same applies).

12/17/2012 4:38:31 PM

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i was only playing. i think it's pretty cute too.

12/17/2012 4:39:49 PM

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thats an ugly kid

you all know which one im talkin about

12/17/2012 4:56:05 PM

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I bet those kids go to town on those drums.

12/17/2012 5:02:27 PM

ncsuapex
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^^ the one in the middle wearing the suit coat?

12/17/2012 5:54:06 PM

Bullet
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you meant "the black one"

12/17/2012 5:56:00 PM

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I am really excited about this new meme


12/18/2012 2:34:34 AM

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why isnt Obama playing those drums? must be suppressing his black half

[Edited on December 18, 2012 at 2:48 AM. Reason : he's got a fucking timpani there for petes sake]

12/18/2012 2:48:10 AM

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Lol <3

12/18/2012 3:10:54 AM

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Lettuce pray

12/18/2012 7:20:51 AM

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So I'm guessing no one is talking about the 20-something odd people that got stabbed during a knifing attack at a school in China?

Maybe we should ban all knives.

12/18/2012 8:34:57 AM

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I believe that has been covered. You also left out one key difference between those 22 and the Newtown 26.

12/18/2012 8:36:04 AM

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Everyone knows that General Tso is chicken.

12/18/2012 9:02:09 AM

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When are people just gonna STFU and stop talking about this?

12/18/2012 9:05:40 AM

dyne
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never. people live for this kind of controversy.

12/18/2012 9:07:46 AM

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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/12/17/nancy-lanza-peter-lanza-divorce_n_2316461.html

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"Nancy Lanza, Peter Lanza Divorce Documents Reveal Details About Adam Lanza's Parents

STAMFORD, Conn. — The mother of Connecticut school shooter Adam Lanza told a divorce mediator in 2009 that she didn't like to leave him alone and that she would care for him as long as he needed it.

When Lanza's parents divorced in 2009, the settlement left his mother with a comfortable income and the comfort of knowing that the then-17-year-old boy would have his education paid for and his medical insurance covered.

If there was bitterness and anger between Nancy and Peter Lanza, it is not described in court papers. And there was no mention of any lingering mental health or medical issues for Adam Lanza, nothing that could even hint at the horror he would unleash three years later.

In working through the terms of their divorce, the couple spent considerable time talking about how to provide for Adam Lanza's well-being, said Paula Levy, a mediator who worked with the couple.

During their meetings, the couple mentioned that Adam Lanza had been diagnosed with Asperger's syndrome, an autism-like disorder, Levy said. But the Lanzas were in complete agreement on how to address Adam's needs and said little about the details of his condition, Levy said.

"The only two things I remember them saying is that she really didn't like to leave him alone and I know they went out of their way to accommodate him," said Levy, who recalled Nancy and Peter Lanza as very respectful of each other and equally concerned about their son's needs.

"They worked together about it," Levy said. "The mom, Nancy, pretty much said she was going to take care of him (Adam) and be there as much as he needed her, even long-term."

While she would not disclose details of their discussions, Levy wanted to make clear that the Lanzas were loving parents who wanted the best for their son.

"These people are soft-spoken, gentle, both of them saying, `What can we do to help him?'" Levy said.

The lawyer who represented Nancy Lanza in the divorce also spoke positively of her, calling her courteous and polite.

"She was an intelligent woman who we were pleased to represent," said the firm of Piazza, Simmons & Grant in Stamford.

Adam Lanza shot his mother in the head with a rifle Friday, then headed to Sandy Hook Elementary School armed with her high-power rifle, two handguns and enough ammunition to kill nearly every child in the building, authorities said. He killed 20 students and six adults before police arrived and he shot himself.

The Lanzas married in June 1981 in Kingston, N.H. Nancy Lanza filed for divorce in 2009, by then living with her son in the home where she was found dead in her pajamas, on her bed.

The documents suggest little argument. The couple agreed to split up their jewelry, clothes and family photos. Adam would live with his mother, the couple agreed, and they agreed to talk about the important decisions.

If it turned out they couldn't agree on something related to Adam's upbringing, Nancy Lanza "shall make the final decision," according to the Sept. 24, 2009, settlement approved by Judge Stanley Novak.

There is nothing in the divorce court file that discusses the relationship's underlying problems. The file simply says the marriage "has broken down irretrievably and there is no possibility of getting back together."

Nancy Lanza, received $289,800 in alimony this year. It was to continue until December 2023, with slight increases each year for cost of living.

As part of the divorce, both Nancy and Peter Lanza were ordered to attend a parenting education program, standard practice in Connecticut. The provider, Family Centers Inc., certified that both completed the required sessions.

Authorities pored over computer, cellphone and credit card records trying to piece together the Lanza family's days leading up to the shooting. Peter Lanza, in a statement this weekend, said that like everyone else, he could not comprehend what had unfolded.

"We too are asking why," he said. "We have cooperated fully with law enforcement and will continue to do so. Like so many of you, we are saddened, but struggling to make sense of what has transpired."

Asperger's is a mild form of autism often characterized by social awkwardness. While people with the disorder can become frustrated more easily, there is no evidence of a link between Asperger's and violent behavior, experts say."


plus I read somewhere that the divorce settlement ensured that Peter Lanza would pay for Adam's car and education and would provide him with medical insurance.

this really opens the debate on whether there was a failing in mental health care for this person. It looks like he had 100% support from his mother (caring for him whenever he needed) and financial support from his father.

I'd like to eventually see a more comprehensive review of his support.

12/18/2012 9:10:43 AM

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"this really opens the debate on whether there was a failing in mental health care for this person"


or if it was a failing on his parents not to pursue the proper mental health care. sounds like she pulled him out of school and kept him secluded in their house.

12/18/2012 9:15:39 AM

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From TMZ...

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"Ke$ha's new hit "Die Young" has fallen on deaf ears ... after radio stations around the country yanked the song from their rotation after the Newtown tragedy ... TMZ has learned. "


LOL

[Edited on December 18, 2012 at 11:33 AM. Reason : ..]

12/18/2012 11:32:51 AM

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12/18/2012 11:49:38 AM

Bullet
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I remember Steve Miller's song "Jet Airliner" was removed from many playlists after 9/11, among many other songs.

[Edited on December 18, 2012 at 12:16 PM. Reason : ]

12/18/2012 12:04:04 PM

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12/18/2012 12:08:48 PM

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"I'd like to eventually see a more comprehensive review of his support."


Why the fuck are you so nosy?

Also, just because you are extremely financially supported doesn't mean it can help your mental illness, even with access to the best doctors and medications. The best thing to do is just to arm everybody and hope for the best.

12/18/2012 12:14:31 PM

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Anyone who is still looking into the killer and his mother is a despicable human, you and the media frenzy are terrible. You are the problem.

12/18/2012 12:15:58 PM

Bullet
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dude, you need to come down off your highhorse and chill with the insults, you're coming across as a looney.

12/18/2012 12:17:28 PM

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^ Haha, you can't be serious .. right?

12/18/2012 12:19:40 PM

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Never let any crisis go unused. Obammer will seize this opportunity to send the national guard door to door seizing all firearms.

12/18/2012 12:19:52 PM

EMCE
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That will never happen.

12/18/2012 12:21:25 PM

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"Anyone who is still looking into the killer and his mother is a despicable human, you and the media frenzy are terrible. You are the problem."


How is trying to understand why this happened "terrible" or "the problem"? You can't work to prevent things like this from happening again until you understand how and why it happened in the first place.

12/18/2012 12:26:57 PM

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the only thing relevant is how and why the dumbass mother let her wacko son get ahold of her firearms.

12/18/2012 12:28:03 PM

Bullet
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nah, there's more to it than that.

12/18/2012 12:33:17 PM

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because its not trying to understand how this happened, its feeding our hunger for violence and tragedy, its a terrible 24/7 reality tv show, its a media race to see who can scoop the latest evidence no matter how related. its fucking disgusting.

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"Let me tell you a story. The day after Columbine, I was interviewed for the Tom Brokaw news program. The reporter had been assigned a theory and was seeking sound bites to support it. "Wouldn't you say," she asked, "that killings like this are influenced by violent movies?" No, I said, I wouldn't say that. "But what about 'Basketball Diaries'?" she asked. "Doesn't that have a scene of a boy walking into a school with a machine gun?" The obscure 1995 Leonardo Di Caprio movie did indeed have a brief fantasy scene of that nature, I said, but the movie failed at the box office (it grossed only $2.5 million), and it's unlikely the Columbine killers saw it.
The reporter looked disappointed, so I offered her my theory. "Events like this," I said, "if they are influenced by anything, are influenced by news programs like your own. When an unbalanced kid walks into a school and starts shooting, it becomes a major media event. Cable news drops ordinary programming and goes around the clock with it. The story is assigned a logo and a theme song; these two kids were packaged as the Trench Coat Mafia. The message is clear to other disturbed kids around the country: If I shoot up my school, I can be famous. The TV will talk about nothing else but me. Experts will try to figure out what I was thinking. The kids and teachers at school will see they shouldn't have messed with me. I'll go out in a blaze of glory."

In short, I said, events like Columbine are influenced far less by violent movies than by CNN, the NBC Nightly News and all the other news media, who glorify the killers in the guise of "explaining" them. I commended the policy at the Sun-Times, where our editor said the paper would no longer feature school killings on Page 1. The reporter thanked me and turned off the camera. Of course the interview was never used. They found plenty of talking heads to condemn violent movies, and everybody was happy."

-Roger Ebert

12/18/2012 12:44:36 PM

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Me wanting to know more about this kid, his mental illness, and his family has nothing to do with the media. i haven't turned the tv on to watch anything on this since the day it happened, and i haven't read a story about it on any of the MSM websites. I mean, I understand that america's love of shit reality shows is fueling on the terrible reporting on this and driving outlets to get the latest "news", however inaccurate it may be, but that doesn't mean anyone who wants to know more about the kid is "the problem". There's sometimes some gray. Again, chill with the arrogance.

I have mental illness in my family, my girlfriend works with young kids with autism, aspergers, and other mental disabilities.

[Edited on December 18, 2012 at 12:50 PM. Reason : ]

12/18/2012 12:49:13 PM

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suuuure

12/18/2012 1:09:06 PM

Bullet
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dude, why are you being an asshole? i just don't get it man.

12/18/2012 1:25:33 PM

dtownral
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because this is the same type of shit that nancy grace feeds on, its fucking disgusting

12/18/2012 1:30:41 PM

Bullet
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hahaha, and you think the ranting and raving you've been going on and on about in here and the soap box aren't disgusting to some people? i think you've got some issues man.

12/18/2012 1:33:02 PM

dtownral
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tot mom, tot mom, tot mom

12/18/2012 1:35:57 PM

Bullet
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i had to google that to even know what it means, and i still really don't. why did you know that? do you watch nancy grace? i find her disgusting.

12/18/2012 1:39:40 PM

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I find her annoying. She will be talking about this shooting for the next 3 years.

12/18/2012 1:41:07 PM

dtownral
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here is one brief example of why it matters:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/radley-balko/the-police-state-comes-to_b_2321878.html
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"The fear of crime is ever-present, even when crime isn't. For example, despite the fact that the crime rate has been dropping dramatically for nearly 20 years*--to historic lows--70 percent of Americans still think crime is getting worse.

I'm sure the cable news obsession with sensational crime stories and the emergence of tragedy vultures like Nancy Grace have a lot to do with it. Long-developing trends like the crime drop by definition aren't daily news. Crime is, even when it's down. I've seen it stated over and over in the Newtown coverage that mass shootings are on the rise. As I pointed out in the morning links, there is no evidence for that, and in fact the numbers suggest they're on the wane. They happen so infrequently that there simply aren't enough data points to say for certain.

Unfortunately, empirical data aren't nearly as compelling as images of victims and mug shots of scary-looking criminals. And like Nixon, today's politicians and law enforcement officials know that you don't pass new laws and give the police new powers by assuaging public fear. You get these things by stoking it."


[Edited on December 18, 2012 at 1:48 PM. Reason : just saw this posted in soap box]

12/18/2012 1:48:38 PM

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and that applies directly to me? stop generalizing. i'm rational, i cannot stand reality tv and msm in general, i'm not reactionary, and i'm pretty keen on recognizing propaganda.

12/18/2012 1:58:13 PM

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As a side note, I keep seeing Newtown as Newton.

12/18/2012 1:58:18 PM

dtownral
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^^not everything is about you

12/18/2012 2:00:19 PM

nOOb
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^ A distinction not made by a statement that begins with "Anyone who...".

[Edited on December 18, 2012 at 2:05 PM. Reason : ]

12/18/2012 2:04:03 PM

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jeez man, you're about as bad as aaron burro sometimes.

12/18/2012 2:07:44 PM

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