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How restrictive can a school be on where a guy transfers? I know a lot of things are rumors but if there were any truth to some of them it would be difficult for me not to make sure he has to transfer to a school he doesnt really want to.

4/2/2013 10:37:18 AM

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A school can be as restrictive as they want, at the risk of looking like douchebags and hurting their status with other recruits.

4/2/2013 10:38:41 AM

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^^ if you restrict to anyone other than schools in your conference or confirmed on your schedule you're an asshole and it will do nothing but hurt you.

Players are all boys and don't give a fuck about fans or rivalries so it'll only make him more likely to not recommend the program/coach.

Thankfully Gott did the right thing.

4/2/2013 10:42:39 AM

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Wait, so now this is Gott's decision and not Purvis'?

Like he encouraged the transfer?

Where are you getting this information?

4/2/2013 10:44:22 AM

Doss2k
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With what has been said about Ollie and UConn tampering I am surprised they didnt add them to the list of schools he cant transfer to at least.

4/2/2013 10:44:34 AM

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I mean if Gottfried wanted him off the team, then why would he care where he transfer to?

I don't buy that theory at all. I think Purvis just wanted to be a star PG and wherever he lands is where he thinks he'll be primed for the NBA. Which is ridiculous, but at least it makes sense.

4/2/2013 10:46:49 AM

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What has been said? I know he followed him which is dumb but not illegal. I don't read Pack Pride but I'm guessing there is a conspiracy involved?

^ this is likely the case

[Edited on April 2, 2013 at 10:48 AM. Reason : X]

4/2/2013 10:47:38 AM

Doss2k
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I am not sure who said Gott wanted him off the team but it certainly wasnt me. It was Purvis's choice to transfer from everything I have heard, but that doesnt mean the school can't be restrictive on where they let the guy go.

4/2/2013 10:48:36 AM

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Oh, so this is just a rumor.

Aside from Purvis detailing why he decided to transfer (unlikely), I don't think we will ever be a 100% sure of the truth. Doesn't really matter anyway.

4/2/2013 10:49:15 AM

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being restrictive where he goes is not the same thing as encouraging a transfer, if thats what you are implying...


I wonder how things would've changed if State didnt work so hard to get Rodney academically cleared at the start of last season, and he was forced to sit out for the season.

4/2/2013 10:52:04 AM

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^^^ but what's the point? All it does being restrictive is make you look like an asshole. See Bo Ryan, who ended up caving anyway after he got killed.

[Edited on April 2, 2013 at 10:52 AM. Reason : X]

4/2/2013 10:52:42 AM

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no, i get that.

Lots of rumors/speculation, so I was trying to see what NYM was saying is all.

4/2/2013 10:53:17 AM

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From what I understand Gott basically told Purvis after the season he needed to have an attitude adjustment and buy into the team concept rather than his role in the offense. We see how Purvis took that. This is just part of the territory now with recruiting these guys who want to be one and done. The good part is you are getting a likely good talented kid. The bad news is a lot of them have big ego's and are looking out for themselves rather than coming to play on a team and if things dont go their way the fingers get pointed at everyone but themselves. I always liked Purvis and hope he does well wherever he ends up, but as others have said once a kid peace's out in his head its better that they are gone anyways before they cause more chemistry issues.

4/2/2013 10:54:11 AM

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So we have Lewis and Warren.

NO WORRIES

4/2/2013 10:54:19 AM

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Oh I see. When I said Gott did the right thing I meant he only restricted Purvis from transferring to ACC (current and new) teams and also Cincy and Mizzou (confirmed opponents).

Wasn't implying Gott told him to leave. My bad..

4/2/2013 10:55:10 AM

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After how this offseason has gone so far I wont feel comfortable in either of them until the date to declare for the draft has passed and the transfer period or whatever is over

Yeah I've known it was common practice to restrict from the same conference and future opponents I just didnt know how restrictive people could be. Like sure you can transfer but not to a BCS conference school or any school east of the mississippi or something like that haha.

[Edited on April 2, 2013 at 10:58 AM. Reason : .]

4/2/2013 10:56:05 AM

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We don't rebuild, we reload.... with 2/3 Star talent.

4/2/2013 10:59:27 AM

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Quote :
"EGO

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Quote :
"PEACE

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4/2/2013 11:01:25 AM

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"We don't rebuild, we reload.... with 2/3 Star talent regroup with JUCO transfers and grad students"
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FTFY

[Edited on April 2, 2013 at 11:05 AM. Reason : .]

4/2/2013 11:04:41 AM

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If Gottfried did in fact tell Rodney that he needs to buy into the team concept or leave, I wonder if you people will give Gottfried the Tom O'Brien treatment when Purvis transfers to Wisconsin and leads them to the Rose Bowl

4/2/2013 11:10:56 AM

UJustWait84
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Did you just compare Purvis to RW?

4/2/2013 11:13:07 AM

Elwood
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we don't reload, we rebuild since 1984

4/2/2013 11:23:23 AM

Doss2k
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It's a slow process just give it time guys!

4/2/2013 11:31:30 AM

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rome was not built in 30 years

4/2/2013 11:32:38 AM

Doss2k
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It took Wichita State 48 years to get back to the final four so I mean really we still have 18 years before we can really complain.

4/2/2013 11:41:24 AM

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"From what I understand Gott basically told Purvis after the season he needed to have an attitude adjustment and buy into the team concept rather than his role in the offense. We see how Purvis took that."


what are your sources for this? This all sounds like unnecessary speculation. I'm glad we had him this year, we would have been extremely thin without him. He's gone now. Good luck to him. Moving on....

4/2/2013 11:51:48 AM

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where's fabalus when you need him?

4/2/2013 11:53:47 AM

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^^Essentially that is what I have heard as well. Wasn't happy about his playing time and Gottifried explained it as a team thing. It just made him pissy with Gott and lead to a transfer.

4/2/2013 12:41:20 PM

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that's so absurd, warren should've been starting over purvis all season. he got way more time than he deserved.

either way, terrible season ahead, i hope to every god there is that lewis doesn't transfer. but, i'm excited to see what warren will do as basically the only scoring threat on the team.

4/2/2013 12:45:34 PM

UJustWait84
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assuming Warren doesn't head to the NBA like rumors have been suggesting...

4/2/2013 12:47:58 PM

NyM410
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Warren will either go this year or in two. Next year is LOADED.

4/2/2013 12:49:10 PM

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"Essentially that is what I have heard as well. Wasn't happy about his playing time and Gottifried explained it as a team thing. It just made him pissy with Gott and lead to a transfer."


once again, where have you heard this? Needless speculation.

4/2/2013 12:49:34 PM

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"assuming Warren doesn't head to the NBA like rumors have been suggesting..."

yes i'm assuming that.

that'd be so fucking absurd i can't even fathom it. so i'm assuming it won't happen.

4/2/2013 12:50:24 PM

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The more plausible and highly reported by local media is his style is not conducive to the high post offense and he wants to play PG.

^ I suspect hell be a three year guy but its far from absurd

[Edited on April 2, 2013 at 12:51 PM. Reason : X]

4/2/2013 12:51:11 PM

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Warren is more like to declare than Lewis is to transfer, but I don't really see either leaving.

Then again, BOTH of them leaving seems likelier than just one of them leaving.

Man, this is nuts

4/2/2013 12:51:16 PM

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Cardiac Pack is BACK. Will they have a team or won't they? Stay tuned folks...

4/2/2013 12:53:54 PM

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Do people not understand that even if they transfer to another program they still will have to prove themselves there to start and get significant minutes all while wasting an entire year?

Transferring has just never made sense to me except in certain rare situations.

4/2/2013 12:55:42 PM

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Don't worry guys, things can still get worse.

4/2/2013 12:56:49 PM

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The 50 year rebuilding plan is right on schedule. The Pittsburgh Pirates are feverishly copying our plan.

Seriously though next year is going to suck. 7 maybe 8 guys in the rotation again including Vandy. Only one player with significant ACC playing time and only two with significant college experience period (Warren and Turner). Good lord Vandy is going to see 15 minutes per game

4/2/2013 1:14:49 PM

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"If Gottfried did in fact tell Rodney that he needs to buy into the team concept or leave, I wonder if you people will give Gottfried the Tom O'Brien treatment when Purvis transfers to Wisconsin and leads them to the Rose Bowl

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just like i said with TOB and wilson, he can step the hell on then. The coach aint gotta kowtow to some goddamn kid

4/2/2013 1:20:36 PM

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Well, I'm afraid I have some bad news...

4/2/2013 1:25:24 PM

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^^If you said any of the same things about the Wilson transfer as the Purvis transfer you're off your rocker. One is selfish and hadn't done anything for the program. The other WAS the program for 3 years and my thoughts of what he could have done in a senior year remain reserved.

4/2/2013 1:27:36 PM

HOOPS MALONE
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I supported TOB on Wilson.

His problem is that his DC was shit and he can't recruit.

4/2/2013 1:28:10 PM

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wilson didnt dedicate himself to the team year round when everyone else was

so if he didnt like being taken off scholarship then there was a door he could walk out of, and he did

[Edited on April 2, 2013 at 1:29 PM. Reason : d]

4/2/2013 1:29:23 PM

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Yeah, said it before but of all the things you can blame TOB for, the RW decision isn't something I'm sweating too much.

4/2/2013 1:30:31 PM

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*John Starks voice*

Screw the haters, lets play ball man, lets just play ball.

4/2/2013 2:17:29 PM

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The difference between Wilson and Purvis is so fucking massive I can't believe someone would be so dumb to make that comparison even if they were trolling.

Wilson's coach already established that he was ok with him playing baseball. He only stopped being ok with it once he wanted to run him off so he could play his shitty QB recruit instead.

Also, Wilson is a top QB in the NFL and Purvis sucks.

The more accurate comparison would be if Gott had run Zo off so he could play Purvis at PG this year.

4/2/2013 2:23:38 PM

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Shitty QB recruit? Please, not this stupid shit again.

4/2/2013 2:28:01 PM

HOOPS MALONE
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Glennon was basically Jay Davis and Marcus Stone...if they threw for 3000+ yards and weren't awful.

4/2/2013 2:38:09 PM

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^^^maybe i'm confusing you with someone else, but i thought you were a reasonable poster. there's so much stupid in that post.

4/2/2013 2:39:59 PM

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