acraw All American 9257 Posts user info edit post |
Some people are complaining that tear gas were hitting children in the crowd of protestors. Yeah...real smart to bring any child there. 8/18/2014 12:28:25 AM |
moron All American 34142 Posts user info edit post |
I bet someone has at least a partial recording of the encounter somewhere.
It still wouldn't excuse the police response regardless. At least now since there's national attention though, and there will be a real investigation. 8/18/2014 12:30:18 AM |
The E Man Suspended 15268 Posts user info edit post |
Its not the police fault that the looters are using protesters as shields. They even send out a warning text before teargassing an area.
Where are the community leaders? Michael sam should be speaking out against looting to get these people straight. 8/18/2014 12:52:02 AM |
Str8BacardiL ************ 41753 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Some people are complaining that tear gas were hitting children in the crowd of protestors. Yeah...real smart to bring any child there." |
Yeah especially at night..8/18/2014 12:57:16 AM |
moron All American 34142 Posts user info edit post |
^^ it doesn't appear there are any community leaders really at this point.
The one highway patrol guy seems to be emerging as the voice of the community though. 8/18/2014 1:35:22 AM |
Slickery All American 2031 Posts user info edit post |
I love the angle some are trying to go after, it is a highly populated black town but run by white people. Is the media aware mayor, city council and school board positions which are held by whites are elected. I read there was a 12% turnout for the last election.
Obama was a Community Organizer, maybe he can dust off his organizing skillz. That's why he cut his two week Martha Vinyard trip short.
It appears blacks want to live segregated from whites. This will prevent white officers from killing their youth. Is everyone good for nominating New Jersey as a destination? I think we all know how this would turn out. 8/18/2014 1:49:40 AM |
Bweez All American 10849 Posts user info edit post |
some of you people are truly disgusting 8/18/2014 2:13:49 AM |
moron All American 34142 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "It appears blacks want to live segregated from whites." |
o.O8/18/2014 2:20:54 AM |
nOOb All American 1973 Posts user info edit post |
LOL. who said that?
I have to go back and read the thread for all the white people's knowledge on race. 8/18/2014 2:26:53 AM |
moron All American 34142 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "The organization has been on the ground in Ferguson since Thursday, sending a 13-person human rights delegation to the city in the wake of the Aug. 9 police shooting death of Michael Brown. Jasmine Heiss, a senior campaigner with Amnesty who is a part of the team in Ferguson, said the use of the “cross-functional team” — which she said included community trainers, researchers, and human rights observers — was “unprecedented” within the United States for the group." |
http://www.buzzfeed.com/chrisgeidner/amnesty-international-takes-unprecedented-us-action-in-fergu#2g4vapn8/18/2014 2:54:08 AM |
raiden All American 10505 Posts user info edit post |
that shit sounded like straight up murder. to press the muzzle against the temple of someone handcuffed, have the gun misfire, correct the misfire and shoot again with the muzzle leaving an imprint on the temple. Sounds like murder to me.8/18/2014 8:01:21 AM |
eyewall41 All American 2262 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "It appears blacks want to live segregated from whites." |
LOL historically it has been quite the opposite. Are you familiar with the term "white flight"?8/18/2014 8:11:26 AM |
ctnz71 All American 7207 Posts user info edit post |
Man that officer is a bad shot if his grouping is like that for a guy just standing there with his arms up 8/18/2014 8:48:59 AM |
eleusis All American 24527 Posts user info edit post |
getting out of towns like Oakland and Detroit sounds like a good idea for everyone, not just white people.
[Edited on August 18, 2014 at 8:55 AM. Reason : .] 8/18/2014 8:52:16 AM |
dmspack oh we back 25535 Posts user info edit post |
^^according to eye witness reports, he was shot at prior to surrendering. 8/18/2014 9:17:06 AM |
y0willy0 All American 7863 Posts user info edit post |
resize that shit 8/18/2014 9:20:42 AM |
ctnz71 All American 7207 Posts user info edit post |
This obviously isn't the autopsy from Mike brown...penis too small. 8/18/2014 9:32:08 AM |
HUR All American 17732 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "At one point, employees at a McDonald's restaurant locked themselves in a storage room after the store was overrun, Johnson said." |
Nothing shows disdain for the "establishment" and your outrage for an unjustified police killing like looting the McDonalds down the road!!!
http://www.cnn.com/2014/08/18/us/missouri-teen-shooting/index.html?hpt=hp_t18/18/2014 9:54:27 AM |
Bullet All American 28414 Posts user info edit post |
Hey guise, look! Some people are looting!!!! That negates and/or justifies everything!1 Bunch of thugs.
(how many times does it have to be said that some people will take advantage of a situation?) 8/18/2014 10:01:28 AM |
afripino All American 11425 Posts user info edit post |
wow...got him at the very tippy top of his dome
^nobody is saying it negates or justifies everything. it definitely doesn't do anything to help matters.
[Edited on August 18, 2014 at 10:08 AM. Reason : ] 8/18/2014 10:07:18 AM |
Bullet All American 28414 Posts user info edit post |
^uh, yeah, some people are trying to dismiss everything because some people are LOOOTING!!
[Edited on August 18, 2014 at 10:13 AM. Reason : of course it doesn't help] 8/18/2014 10:13:03 AM |
BigMan157 no u 103354 Posts user info edit post |
it's almost like there's more than one facet of the story of Ferguson happening at one time! omfg! 8/18/2014 10:15:13 AM |
BlackSheep Suspended 1575 Posts user info edit post |
This is worth a second post. I imagine this sort of BS happens everyday. I'm glad its finally going to get more attention.
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/08/15/the-day-ferguson-cops-were-caught-in-a-bloody-lie.html 8/18/2014 10:21:06 AM |
Doss2k All American 18474 Posts user info edit post |
I have heard several eye witnesses claim the cop shot him in the back while running away and at that point is when he turned around and put his arms up and said he was unarmed and to stop shooting. This is why eyewitness testimony is one of the weakest forms of evidence because people will almost never be able to tell you exactly what happened and things like that matter. 8/18/2014 10:21:06 AM |
y0willy0 All American 7863 Posts user info edit post |
He's having three autopsies done.
Conspiracy. 8/18/2014 10:24:43 AM |
smc All American 9221 Posts user info edit post |
The National Guard is being brought in today.
"Tin soldiers and Nixon coming....We're finally on our own."
You'd think it would be impossible for a guy named Nixon to get elected in this day and age, but I said the same thing about the name Hussein. 8/18/2014 10:31:45 AM |
afripino All American 11425 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "^uh, yeah, some people are trying to dismiss everything because some people are LOOOTING!!" |
sources?8/18/2014 10:32:30 AM |
Bullet All American 28414 Posts user info edit post |
ok, some people are dismissing or negating all the protesting because some people are LOOTING!!
here's one of many, many sources available online: message_topic.aspx?topic=642859&page=1 (foxnews is another that has many instances of this phenomenon)
[Edited on August 18, 2014 at 10:35 AM. Reason : ] 8/18/2014 10:35:18 AM |
y0willy0 All American 7863 Posts user info edit post |
Who gives a shit about looting?
Terrorizing employees however is another matter.
You're just mad you're not seeing exactly the narrative you would like. Yes the original crime is a bigger deal, yes the ridiculous police response is a bigger deal, yes these other crimes are largely unrelated...
That doesn't mean ignore them.
[Edited on August 18, 2014 at 10:54 AM. Reason : -] 8/18/2014 10:52:26 AM |
afripino All American 11425 Posts user info edit post |
I actually re-read page 1 and didn't see any instances of that. Perhaps you aren't actually reading the comments? 8/18/2014 10:53:39 AM |
smc All American 9221 Posts user info edit post |
More reporters threatened and arrested inside tiny free speech zone.
"Turn off that fucking camera or you're getting shot!"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6lOuMQ-apd0 http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/08/17/police-threaten-reporters-ferguson_n_5686674.html
[Edited on August 18, 2014 at 10:56 AM. Reason : .] 8/18/2014 10:54:44 AM |
dtownral Suspended 26632 Posts user info edit post |
^^^
8/18/2014 10:55:12 AM |
y0willy0 All American 7863 Posts user info edit post |
Have you noticed nobody has directly addressed you since you were exposed as JesusHChrist's phone alias?
You lose. 8/18/2014 10:57:19 AM |
dtownral Suspended 26632 Posts user info edit post |
you literally just did in that post 8/18/2014 11:02:15 AM |
eleusis All American 24527 Posts user info edit post |
the two shots in his arms with no exit wounds combined with the severe angle of the shots to the head are confusing. One shot entered through his eye socket, exited through his jaw, and then entered again through his collarbone. Another shot was to the top of the head with no exit wound, meaning the bullet traveled down through his body. Either he was flying like superman, or the cop shot him twice as he was falling to the ground.
The two shots in the bicep with no exit wound are even more confusing. He was a big boy, but I still don't see his arm being big enough to stop a bullet completely. Three of the arm wounds could be graze wounds, but the top one looks like it's in the center of his arm. The report doesn't show any exit wounds through the back of the arm though. 8/18/2014 11:02:18 AM |
acraw All American 9257 Posts user info edit post |
Day 9 8/18/2014 11:03:07 AM |
Bullet All American 28414 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I actually re-read page 1 and didn't see any instances of that. Perhaps you aren't actually reading the comments?" |
it's pretty silly that you're trying to deny that some posters in this thread and all over the internet are obviously pointing to the looting and other bad behavior from some individuals to negate the protesters' concerns and justify the cops' actions. i'm saying some, and it's a fact, and you're ignoring reality.8/18/2014 11:09:10 AM |
NyM410 J-E-T-S 50085 Posts user info edit post |
How does the autopsy confirm witness statements? I swear the witnesses said he was shot in back running awa but maybe I'm misremembering.
[Edited on August 18, 2014 at 11:25 AM. Reason : v crump, the lawyer] 8/18/2014 11:15:58 AM |
synapse play so hard 60939 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "How does the autopsy confirm witness statements?" |
Who is claiming that it is?
[Edited on August 18, 2014 at 11:25 AM. Reason : Also witness statements are not a singular entity]8/18/2014 11:20:35 AM |
eleusis All American 24527 Posts user info edit post |
every witness said something different. the bullet wounds match a witness statement that was posted in here earlier from a cell phone recording on site, with the person saying Brown ran away, doubled back on the officer, and the officer started shooting everywhere. There's still a lot of details we don't have that will tie all this together once it goes to court and forensic experts piece it all together. The lack of GSR on the head shots does seem to confirm the cop being a good distance away from Brown, so the close range execution stories seem to be bogus. I'm not sold on the cop being in imminent danger if he was shooting the guy from thirty feet away though.
Most people ran with the witness statement of the friend that was with him, but it's hard to believe he saw what happened when he even admitted during his interview that he was hiding behind a car. If I heard a cop say he'll shoot, I'd be in a ball tucked up by the front wheel of whatever was parked close by. 8/18/2014 11:25:50 AM |
dtownral Suspended 26632 Posts user info edit post |
what are your credentials for interpreting autopsy reports? i need to know how many seasons of CSI you have watched. 8/18/2014 11:28:24 AM |
Doss2k All American 18474 Posts user info edit post |
Yes the shot to the top of the head is a bit strange but I mean a guy could be running towards you with his head ducked down trying to avoid fire or as someone else said if the cop unloaded several rounds at the guy maybe he was simply falling forward from the other shots when the final one struck him.
Obviously we are gonna have to wait for the CSI guys to figure out what happened as best they can but seems like already the evidence and the eye witness reports dont really add up all that well. 8/18/2014 11:30:03 AM |
afripino All American 11425 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "it's pretty silly that you're trying to deny that some posters in this thread and all over the internet are obviously pointing to the looting and other bad behavior from some individuals to negate the protesters' concerns and justify the cops' actions. i'm saying some, and it's a fact, and you're ignoring reality." |
OMG! Let's talk about some people saying some outlandish things at some website! /s
I'm just saying that your statement wasn't relevant at the time it was posted and your source (page 1) didn't prove your counterpoint. I'm sure there are some people talking about how this is Obama's fault...shall we sensationalize those few as well?8/18/2014 11:47:06 AM |
Str8BacardiL ************ 41753 Posts user info edit post |
http://aattp.org/tea-partiers-join-kkk-in-raising-blood-money-for-michael-browns-killer/ 8/18/2014 11:49:02 AM |
afripino All American 11425 Posts user info edit post |
^mission accomplished! thx brah 8/18/2014 11:51:45 AM |
Restricted All American 15537 Posts user info edit post |
The autopsy won't do much to explain everything. Bullets do funny thing inside of the body and shootng a moving human flesh outside of a controlled environment. This isn't a YouTube video shootng poor quality gel in my garage. 8/18/2014 11:58:55 AM |
eleusis All American 24527 Posts user info edit post |
the autopsy does help explain some things, such as why did the officer shoot him 6 times - 4 of the wounds were superficial and wouldn't stop an attacker.
[Edited on August 18, 2014 at 12:30 PM. Reason : it also rules out all the "shot in the back running away" stories.] 8/18/2014 12:29:38 PM |
dtownral Suspended 26632 Posts user info edit post |
it looks like at least 3 of those could have been from behind (i'm an autopsy expert too)
and it doesn't mean that he turned back and ran at the cop, it doesn't conflict with the other eyewitnesses
[Edited on August 18, 2014 at 12:35 PM. Reason : tl;dr doesn't really provide much info from what i can see] 8/18/2014 12:34:30 PM |
eleusis All American 24527 Posts user info edit post |
the expert who performed the autopsy stated that the bullet wounds in the arms came from the front.
[Edited on August 18, 2014 at 12:37 PM. Reason : several witness say he was shot in the back before he turned around to surrender.] 8/18/2014 12:36:39 PM |
dtownral Suspended 26632 Posts user info edit post |
The forensic pathologist said that the gunshot wounds on the arm could have happened in several way, including with his back facing the officer 8/18/2014 12:38:48 PM |