theres a whole lotta green in premarket trading

5/23/2006 9:05:42 AM

there better be. there's been a whole lot of red over the last week.

i've been using the red days to set up shop. must buy low and sell high -- or so they say.

5/23/2006 9:52:41 AM

buy into GOOG now that it's back down to $375?

5/23/2006 9:57:34 AM

I personally don't like GOOG due to their refusal to provide any sort of guidance. The stock will probably do well, but I'm probably not going to ever own any common stock in GOOG.

5/23/2006 10:02:58 AM

hard to say; but if you're not risk averse, then yes pick up some GOOG. i've unloaded most of mine over time (above 400), and am seriously down to 2 shares. i've had my run with it and don't expect to get back in.

5/23/2006 10:05:41 AM

yeah, i'm just thinking about buying 1-2 shares of GOOG

and some HLT

5/23/2006 10:09:09 AM

anf is where its at

5/23/2006 10:20:24 AM

http://tinyurl.com/lxq7x

5/23/2006 10:43:16 AM

look at the run on PEIX this morning!~

5/23/2006 10:57:48 AM

It would be great if RMBS would get to ~45 where it was a short while ago. I got in around 35 but didn't sell, hoping that it would go up a little more...whoops.

5/23/2006 12:09:11 PM

Why buy goog shares instead of the options?

5/23/2006 12:28:33 PM

hard to time options properly if you're new at this

5/23/2006 2:05:14 PM

TIE and ACI are making a com eback.

I need to get my hands on more SHLD whenever it dips...

5/23/2006 3:05:13 PM

goddammn what a fucking n00b

http://tinyurl.com/fhfpe

5/23/2006 5:17:44 PM

5/23/2006 5:26:08 PM

MasterCard is about to IPO--any thoughts?

5/23/2006 8:23:41 PM

Quote :

" Bernanke's reminder via Bartiromo that a pause was not the same as the finish of the rate cycle hit financial markets unprepared and led to a brief sharp increase in interest rates. Many economists believe the Fed suffered some loss of credibility over the episode. Bernanke had not commented publicly about the incident before and Fed officials have maintained a stony silence about the Bartiromo report. Bernanke was pressed about the episode by Sen. Jim Bunning, R-Kentucky, who voted against Bernanke's nomination. Bunning said he had warned Bernanke to be cautious in his public comments. "

Man, fuck that shit. Oh noes. The Fed cheif can't speak freely because an entire nation that plays in this highly speculative system might lose a little money. It's only fair if they can make money speculating.

I really hate the stock markets, with a passion. The whole concept of a public owned company via issuing of stock is a sham, but I'll get off the soapbox now because I don't have enough well founded arguments to battle the onslaught a comment like this will surely get.

5/24/2006 8:46:15 AM

yeah, well you're bald

5/24/2006 8:57:36 AM

Rather, the idea of issuing stock to help a company grow is a great invention. But being able to trade this stock back and forth in real time, and consolidating massive amounts of capital and power into the hands of just a few people sitting there on the floor playing their power games and making themselves rich is stupid.

5/24/2006 9:53:10 AM

trillions of dollars say its not stupid

there is a market for capital markets that is so massive, that it doesn't matter what you think

5/24/2006 9:56:58 AM

So much for the Vonage IPO. Opened up at $17 as an IPO today, now has traded down to $15.12

http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=vg

I hope none of you bought into it.

The amusing part is that the Wall Street firms that backed the IPO are not even backing the stock in the market. Usually, the lead under-writing firms will step in and start buying the stock if if starts to sink on the opening day. The Vonage stock continues to sink, it is now down to a hair above $15 and not a single underwriting firm has stepped in to buy the stock and provide support.

Guess it will leave all the Vonage users who subscribed to the IPO holding the bag...

5/24/2006 11:07:08 AM

Now at $14.91 (down over 12%) and falling.... No support in the market
seen..

Too many people unwisely thought this was the next GOOG, but Vonage is nothing like Google.

5/24/2006 12:27:04 PM

its no BIDU either

5/24/2006 1:17:22 PM

ouch! my holdings are really shitting the bed today, even more than they have for the last week.

5/24/2006 1:46:08 PM

Its all over the place today.

5/24/2006 1:51:35 PM

If you're a LTBH investor, and your positions have strong fundamentals, don't let market fluctuations freak you out. If you're more of a short term investor, trailing stops are your friend.

5/24/2006 1:52:27 PM

^ what he said

btw, LTBH = Long Term Buy and Hold

5/24/2006 3:09:04 PM

yeah, i know the answer is to hang on and ride it out...it's just demotivating to watch things slide a little more each day...

5/24/2006 3:36:07 PM

good time to get in on PEIX not that its back near 30?

5/24/2006 3:59:31 PM

obviously this thread is for the more knowledgeable stockholders, but where are some of the places online that you guys learned the basics of the market?

5/24/2006 4:25:48 PM

fool.com is a good place to start

5/24/2006 4:41:26 PM

not sure about PEIX...hanging on to what i picked up in the high 30s

5/24/2006 4:42:01 PM

http://money.cnn.com/2006/05/25/news/newsmakers/enron_verdict/index.htm?cnn=yes
Skilling was found guilty on 20 counts of conspiracy, fraud, false statements and insider trading. He was found not guilty on eight counts of insider trading.

Lay was found guilty on all six counts of conspiracy and fraud.

5/25/2006 12:30:40 PM

Good

scumbags, both of them

5/25/2006 12:33:52 PM

tryin to catch me ridin dirty...

5/25/2006 12:39:08 PM

holy market rebound batman

5/26/2006 1:29:18 PM

Quote :

"The whole concept of a public owned company via issuing of stock is a sham"

it's a free country

nobody is forcing you to buy the stuff

5/26/2006 2:00:27 PM

More Fun with Vonage.... Users get allocated shares after the stock
tanks....

http://techdirt.com/articles/20060526/0917258.shtml

5/26/2006 2:02:29 PM

Well, I hope that any of you have been following some of my pink sheet picks didnt get too nervous and dump them all. They have rebounded back as much of the rest of the market.

5/26/2006 2:29:51 PM

Quote :

"The whole concept of a public owned company via issuing of stock is a sham"

What in the hell?

Are venture capitalist organizations a sham?

what about banks who loan money for people to start businesses? are they a sham?

5/26/2006 2:37:02 PM

What about Merck?

I read a couple of weeks ago about how they've developed a highly effective vaccine against cervical cancer, and then just saw on the news about how they just got FDA approval for a vaccine against shingles.

the recommendations of market analysts aren't all that enthusiastic, though.

5/26/2006 4:24:21 PM

^ unless you get that kind of news before the street you've already missed the momentum swing.

If you start trading on news like that you become reactionary when really you should be investing in good fundamentals. Seriously check out Motley Fool for ahwile.

5/26/2006 5:41:57 PM

fundamentals are for old ladies and pussies... buy on hunches and whispers, i say

5/26/2006 5:45:03 PM

scuba... i saw it as a buy opportunity, and boy did that ever do nicely for me...

5/26/2006 6:06:50 PM

i don't like big pharma stocks

(1) they carry too lmuch liability and downside risk on potential for disapprovals of new drugs

(2) if they're safe from the above, they move way too slow


your best best bet for playing the life sciences is ETFs that are in the space. the ETFs avoid company specific risk, but capture the robust macroeconomic for healthcare & therapeutic needs

5/27/2006 4:03:35 AM

you gotta diversify yo bonds, ni**a

5/27/2006 4:11:15 AM

anyone ever use tradeking? Should I be wary of execution times/quality with a cheap trading site such as this?

5/28/2006 3:07:20 AM

Quote :

"What in the hell? Are venture capitalist organizations a sham? what about banks who loan money for people to start businesses? are they a sham?"

I qualified that comment here:

Quote :

"Rather, the idea of issuing stock to help a company grow is a great invention. But being able to trade this stock back and forth in real time, and consolidating massive amounts of capital and power into the hands of just a few people sitting there on the floor playing their power games and making themselves rich is stupid."

And situations like Enron help me make my point, as well as inside trading. I mean, I'll play the game right along with people, but I think the speculation and psychology built into the market is bullshit. Good companies, and the lives of thousands of people are at the mercy of forces that they should never be under. If the system were truely purely free market then it would be great, but you're a fool if you think it works like it should.

5/28/2006 8:14:54 AM

^enron was mostly accounting fraud, not insider trading so what are you talking about?

anyone that can answer my question ^^^?

5/28/2006 3:18:27 PM

invest in corn

5/28/2006 11:42:43 PM