beergolftile All American 9030 Posts user info edit post |
12 4/24/2007 9:12:27 AM |
Oeuvre All American 6651 Posts user info edit post |
Yeah that Aybar, et al. trade really was bad.
Although Betemit isn't lighting up the stats this year, he was a good young prospect and will hopefully develop into a good, if not great, player. 4/24/2007 9:28:33 AM |
ncsuapex SpaceForRent 37776 Posts user info edit post |
nice start to tonites game. Andruw and Frenchy both with 2 out RBI. 4/24/2007 7:20:16 PM |
NyM410 J-E-T-S 50085 Posts user info edit post |
Isn't that single A pitcher Vanden Hurk pitching for the Fish? Never threw a game above A before 2 starts ago. The Mets destroyed him but he does have a nasty curve... 4/24/2007 7:22:04 PM |
Oeuvre All American 6651 Posts user info edit post |
i fucking hate redman 4/24/2007 7:26:14 PM |
scooterncst8 Veteran 373 Posts user info edit post |
Although the alternative options are slim, the Braves really need to find a starter to replace Redman. 4/24/2007 7:34:14 PM |
ncsuapex SpaceForRent 37776 Posts user info edit post |
well fuck. so much for that early 4-0 lead 4/24/2007 7:35:04 PM |
tennwa33 All American 920 Posts user info edit post |
That was ridiculous. 4/24/2007 7:36:00 PM |
ncsuapex SpaceForRent 37776 Posts user info edit post |
jesuschrist. He's walked 3 batters in a row to load the bases. We HAVE to make him pay for this. 4/24/2007 7:45:31 PM |
Ernie All American 45943 Posts user info edit post |
so i just turned on the game
moylan's on in the fourth? we're fucked 4/24/2007 8:34:51 PM |
TheOffice Suspended 2343 Posts user info edit post |
11-6
w00t! 4/24/2007 10:04:49 PM |
Ernie All American 45943 Posts user info edit post |
is it too early to say kj doing a better job than giles, both offensively and defensively?
4/24/2007 10:16:33 PM |
maverick31 Veteran 413 Posts user info edit post |
ive been very impressed with kj defensively especially coming from the outfield... he really showed his outfield ability on the last out in the 9th and his patience at the plate has also impressed me and i think has been a big part of his success at the plate. 4/24/2007 10:22:48 PM |
TheOffice Suspended 2343 Posts user info edit post |
Hudson is 3-0 with a 0.62 ERA going into tonights game. That is just NASTY. 4/25/2007 5:50:50 PM |
Buzzing All American 1054 Posts user info edit post |
Kelly Johnson Home Run 4/25/2007 7:07:03 PM |
TheOffice Suspended 2343 Posts user info edit post |
Chipper HR 4/25/2007 7:08:19 PM |
ncsuapex SpaceForRent 37776 Posts user info edit post |
Marcus Giles who?
haha EVERY YEAR! people want to trash Schuerholz for trades made or not made and just about every year it works out in his favor. I liked Giles and I wasn't sure what KJ would bring but if he keeps this up his offensive output will exceed Giles and his defense is SOLID, PLUS! he's about 3 mil a year cheaper at this point. 4/25/2007 7:12:50 PM |
maverick31 Veteran 413 Posts user info edit post |
Diaz HR 4/25/2007 7:23:48 PM |
TheOffice Suspended 2343 Posts user info edit post |
I didn't realize Frenchy was leading the NL in RBI's 4/25/2007 7:34:38 PM |
ncsuapex SpaceForRent 37776 Posts user info edit post |
5 SOs and only 2 hits so far for Huddy!
granted he'll probably struggle in the 5th or 6th...
[Edited on April 25, 2007 at 7:56 PM. Reason : .] 4/25/2007 7:55:49 PM |
StingrayRush All American 14628 Posts user info edit post |
holy hell hudson, 12K's and no runs through 8 4/25/2007 9:04:37 PM |
TheOffice Suspended 2343 Posts user info edit post |
FUCK
3-2 no out, runners on 2nd and 3rd 4/25/2007 9:19:17 PM |
ncsuapex SpaceForRent 37776 Posts user info edit post |
4/25/2007 9:22:24 PM |
BrickTop All American 4508 Posts user info edit post |
^^^jinx if i ever saw one 4/25/2007 9:23:26 PM |
TheOffice Suspended 2343 Posts user info edit post |
GG Chipper
Jesus Christ this is a flashback to the first part of last season
Game over on a wild fucking pitch.
GOD DAMNIT
[Edited on April 25, 2007 at 9:28 PM. Reason : .] 4/25/2007 9:26:21 PM |
Senez All American 8112 Posts user info edit post |
god hudson put wick in a bad spot
i can't put any blame on wickman there really...things happen.
[Edited on April 25, 2007 at 9:30 PM. Reason : ] 4/25/2007 9:28:04 PM |
erice85 All American 4549 Posts user info edit post |
good work fellas 4/25/2007 9:33:44 PM |
TheOffice Suspended 2343 Posts user info edit post |
Bobby should have pulled Hudson after he gave up the 2nd staight single. 4/25/2007 9:57:13 PM |
wolfpack2105 All American 12428 Posts user info edit post |
fuuuuuuuuck 4/25/2007 9:58:19 PM |
StingrayRush All American 14628 Posts user info edit post |
oh give me a fucking break. horseshit if i ever saw it 4/25/2007 10:25:44 PM |
JNewtHIII Veteran 240 Posts user info edit post |
tim hudson is amazing 4/26/2007 1:03:59 AM |
wolfpack2105 All American 12428 Posts user info edit post |
until that 9th inning 4/26/2007 1:07:08 AM |
akaseinfeld All American 1608 Posts user info edit post |
According to Rotoworld, we just signed Smoltz to an extension.
http://www.rotoworld.com/content/HeadLines.aspx?sport=MLB 4/26/2007 7:13:58 PM |
ncsuapex SpaceForRent 37776 Posts user info edit post |
I think Smoltz and Bobby Cox are trying to see who can last the longest. lol 4/26/2007 7:24:00 PM |
TheOffice Suspended 2343 Posts user info edit post |
Jesus, $14mil for next year. I love Smoltz and all, but this is another classic case of the Braves overpaying one of their veteran players. We could get a lot more, and a lot better for $14mil. 4/26/2007 8:09:18 PM |
akaseinfeld All American 1608 Posts user info edit post |
ESPN is reporting that the extension, Smoltz will get $14 Million for 2008, a 2009 option that automatically kicks in if he pitches over 200 IP in 2008, and a club option for 2010. 4/26/2007 8:09:34 PM |
StingrayRush All American 14628 Posts user info edit post |
well, aside from chipper he's pretty much the face of the braves. he's still pretty effective, so i don't have a problem forking out some dough. i just wish they would put some money into the rest of the team as well 4/26/2007 9:47:24 PM |
TheOffice Suspended 2343 Posts user info edit post |
$14mil is WAY too much to be paying Smoltz next year. Like I said, I love the guy to death, and he is one of the faces of the Braves, but eventually you either gotta give them a big pay cut, or just not sign them. $14mil could go along way to helping the Braves in the next few years. A lot more help than Smoltz can provide. 4/26/2007 9:57:32 PM |
maverick31 Veteran 413 Posts user info edit post |
^^ i completely agree... aside from smoltzie still being one of the most dominant righthanders in all of baseball he is still the face of the braves and one of the classiest guys in all of baseball. its also gonna be good for the younger guys like james and davies to soak knowledge from over the next few years while they develop. and lets not forget the man's record in the postseason... 15-4 with about a 2.65 era and is unbeaten in game 7's i believe... lets see if we can get a few more of those kind of wins the next few years out of him.
[Edited on April 27, 2007 at 1:57 AM. Reason : .] 4/27/2007 1:56:36 AM |
Ernie All American 45943 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "this is another classic case of the Braves overpaying one of their veteran players" |
tom glavine, greg maddux, and gary sheffield probably don't agree with this statement
and while $14m is probably too much, what the fuck else are we gonna do?4/27/2007 6:00:50 AM |
wolfpack2105 All American 12428 Posts user info edit post |
^don't include sheffield in that. He was here for what, 3 years at the most? 4/27/2007 9:53:09 AM |
NyM410 J-E-T-S 50085 Posts user info edit post |
Quit bitching about this. It was good signing. In a day and age when fucking Ted Lilly and Gil Meche get longterm deals over $11M per signing John Smoltz to a shortterm deal for a few mil more is a GREAT move... just like the Mets giving Glavine and Duque $18M per combined was great.. 4/27/2007 11:11:02 AM |
Ernie All American 45943 Posts user info edit post |
sheffield was in atlanta for two years, i think
but he should have been here for several more
i think signing smoltz to an extension is a good move
it's not like there's an over abundance of solid starting pitchers on the market
[Edited on April 27, 2007 at 11:43 AM. Reason : unfortunately, this means we now have zero chance at re-signing andruw ] 4/27/2007 11:39:41 AM |
NyM410 J-E-T-S 50085 Posts user info edit post |
The best way to build a rotation, in my opinion, is a few high priced top end guys and a bunch of homegrown (or system) young kids with upside. There is NO point to throwing $$$$$$$ at mediocre mid level guys like Gil Meche or Ted Lilly when you can get their production from kids in your system for relatively free. I think both the Mets and Braves have done a great job doing that and it will show as them being the best two teams in the division over the next decade. 4/27/2007 11:46:01 AM |
Ernie All American 45943 Posts user info edit post |
exactly
you have to overpay a bit to hold on to pitchers that you can actually depend on (i.e. smoltz, glavine, pedro, etc.) or you'll end up signing free agents like gil meche (whose contract with the royals is identical to the extension johan santana signed a year or two ago -- which is fucking ridiculous)
with one or two of those types anchoring the rotation, you can bring in a veteran journeyman for relatively cheap (more like el duque, less like mark redman) and fill the rest with young guys who are going to have ups and downs (davies, james, pelfrey, etc.)
starting pitching is the most important part of any club and the most sure fire way to build a contender
[Edited on April 27, 2007 at 11:51 AM. Reason : ] 4/27/2007 11:50:11 AM |
TheOffice Suspended 2343 Posts user info edit post |
OMG the fucking bullpen is about to blow it again.
Quote : | "unfortunately, this means we now have zero chance at re-signing andruw " |
Exactly my point. They should be using that money to re sign Andruw.
What an awesome fucking catch by Frenchy
[Edited on April 28, 2007 at 12:16 AM. Reason : .]4/28/2007 12:13:03 AM |
Ernie All American 45943 Posts user info edit post |
it might have been two bad outings in a row from the bullpen but you have to remember they're in colorado
and big bob looked hurt last night 4/28/2007 8:22:51 AM |
Oeuvre All American 6651 Posts user info edit post |
Anything wrong with Wickman? Walk-off passed ball and then they had to put in moylan (FUCKING MOYLAN) to finish his job in the 9th last night.
No closer controversy yet... and I sure as hell hope Wickman comes out and restores confidence. 4/28/2007 8:45:34 AM |
Ernie All American 45943 Posts user info edit post |
wickman was uncomfortable for some reason last night
it looked like he was trying to stretch his back out -- and he definitely told the bobby to take him out 4/28/2007 9:33:27 AM |
wolfpack2105 All American 12428 Posts user info edit post |
Braves win 6-2 tonight
Frenchy and Edgar with a solo shot a piece. Chipper with a 2 RBI single and Kelly Johnson with a rbi triple.
Smoltzy pitched 7 strong innings with 8 strikeouts for the W.
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