dweedle All American 77386 Posts user info edit post |
buttsex 12/11/2006 3:02:30 PM |
BEU All American 12512 Posts user info edit post |
horse dick 12/11/2006 3:06:12 PM |
gunzz IS NÚMERO UNO 68205 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I remember seeing that during the game and saying to myself, "I bet every one of those students going up to TOB right now are on Tdub..." Turns out I was right for the most part. " |
me too 12/11/2006 3:16:24 PM |
Brass Monkey All American 13560 Posts user info edit post |
Does anyone know how the players are reacting to the hire? 12/12/2006 3:02:20 AM |
hondaguy All American 6409 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I heard he had a meeting with all players at 4pm on saturday....and at 4:01 all doors were locked and nobody was allowed after that....
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that is def. one way to get the player's attention and let them know that you mean business right from the get go12/12/2006 7:39:17 AM |
pilgrimshoes Suspended 63151 Posts user info edit post |
if that is true, i really like it. 12/12/2006 9:23:36 AM |
ncsuapex SpaceForRent 37776 Posts user info edit post |
yeah.. off to a good start.. I would like to know who, if anyone missed the meeting and what happened to them so far... 12/12/2006 9:24:26 AM |
goalielax All American 11252 Posts user info edit post |
we used to have a saying in the military:
5 minutes early is on time on time is late late is never showing up at all
it bugs the shit out of be being in corporate america when I have a meeting that starts at 9 and people stroll in anywhere from 5-20 mins late
TOB better bring the fucking wood on these guys - I'd rather see half the team transfer because they don't like the discipline than go through another year of flag football. I think I'm gonna like having a fellow academy grad and former marine at the helm 12/12/2006 9:45:13 AM |
ParksNrec All American 8742 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "5 minutes early is on time on time is late late is never showing up at all" |
That was Herb's basketball practice/meeting policy.12/12/2006 9:49:20 AM |
APCrook All American 1453 Posts user info edit post |
^tom coughlin's, too. i think it was last year someone showed up to a meeting on time and was fined for being late. shockey, maybe? 12/12/2006 9:53:22 AM |
Maverick1024 All American 4866 Posts user info edit post |
Strahan 12/12/2006 12:06:55 PM |
rflong All American 11472 Posts user info edit post |
Vince Lombardi used to say a quote that one of my high school coaches always used. I've never forgotten it:
Quote : | "If you're ten minutes early, you're five minutes late" |
12/12/2006 12:41:56 PM |
AndyMac All American 31922 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | " 5 minutes early is on time on time is late late is never showing up at all" |
I have a personal saying kind of like that.
But it's about leaving, instead of showing up.12/12/2006 1:57:24 PM |
BEU All American 12512 Posts user info edit post |
I wonder if anyone was left outside 12/12/2006 2:20:42 PM |
hondaguy All American 6409 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | ""The place is a sleeping giant," O'Brien said. "This is an opportunity to be at a state university and to win at the highest level, and everything is in place here to do that."
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12/12/2006 2:36:01 PM |
Blind Hate Suspended 1878 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "it bugs the shit out of be being in corporate america when I have a meeting that starts at 9 and people stroll in anywhere from 5-20 mins late" |
Are you talking about meetings with external clients or internal, team type meetings? I don't see a problem with folks being a few minutes late, especially when one meeting starts at the time the other one ends, and things of that nature.12/13/2006 5:21:49 AM |
ssclark Black and Proud 14179 Posts user info edit post |
that's not a very blind hate opinion now is it ? 12/13/2006 8:50:19 AM |
Aristotle Suspended 2231 Posts user info edit post |
12/13/2006 3:28:36 PM |
clalias All American 1580 Posts user info edit post |
damn u baalllllliiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiinnnnnnnnnnn now, ain't you. 12/13/2006 3:39:40 PM |
BEU All American 12512 Posts user info edit post |
Someone needs to inform Mr. Obrien about TWW and how he should rate his overall success on the TWW opinion. 12/13/2006 4:05:54 PM |
wlb420 All American 9053 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Why O'Brien Picked Pack, Part One
In some ways, college football coaches are different from most college football fans. The coaches' paychecks are bigger, usually much bigger. They typically have agents and financial analysts and other advisors at their disposal. Their career transitions are made in the public eye and draw lots of headlines.
In other ways, those same coaches are just like everyone else. Most will listen to someone who's offering significantly more money, but they probably won't uproot their families for a lateral move or a small raise. They think about their children, and they ask their wives for input. (A favorite saying in the South: "If momma ain't happy, ain't nobody happy.") Like most others, they also take into consideration benefits, timing, work environment, lifestyle, geography, even weather.
New N.C. State football coach Tom O'Brien addressed some of those factors during his press conference Saturday. Here's the beginning of a longer list, including some things that probably would be considered inappropriate for the coach to include in his public comments.
1. Money — The average Division I-A head football coach made about $950,000 last year, excluding bonuses. In the six BCS conferences, that number jumped to $1.4 million. At Boston College, O'Brien reportedly made $733,626, a number far below market value for a coach with eight straight winning seasons. (BC officials claim that the actual compensation number, bolstered by private money, was around $1 million.) At N.C. State, O'Brien landed a seven-year deal worth at least $1.15 million — and, with various incentives, as much as $1.8 million — per year. The bottom line is that the Wolfpack offered O'Brien a raise in the neighborhood of 25-50 percent, and that kind of money will get most people's attention, in any walk of life.
2. Work Environment — Everyone likes to be appreciated, and that was not always the case for O'Brien at Boston College, despite his impressive 10-year track record (75-45, great graduation rates, etc.) with the Eagles. A significant segment of the BC fan base, apparently believing that O'Brien had taken the program as far as he could take it, cheered when he left for N.C. State. More importantly, according to numerous sources, some in the BC administration had upset O'Brien by asking him why he couldn't "win the big game," a reference to the Eagles' crushing, late-season losses over the last three seasons — Syracuse in 2004, North Carolina in 2005, Wake Forest in 2006 — that prevented them from landing a BCS bid (2004), an ACC championship (2005) and an invitation to the league title game (2006). O'Brien believed that his track record, which included an average of almost nine wins over the last five seasons and an NCAA-best six straight bowl victories, deserved more respect.
3. Fan Base — This was one topic O'Brien could safely address at his press conference. As a general rule of thumb, large state universities such as N.C. State have more alumni and thus more populous fan bases than small, private schools such as Boston College. When the Eagles have a home sellout in football, 44,500 people fill Alumni Stadium. Against Buffalo this fall, in a nasty storm, only 14,682 showed up. Even during a 3-9 season, Wolfpack fans mostly filled Carter-Finley Stadium, with crowds ranging from roughly 54,000 to 58,000 at seven home games, whether the opponent was Akron or Florida State. The fans also have made a lot of noise in recent years, sometimes even approaching a level normally the domain of traditional football powers Clemson, Florida State and Virginia Tech.
"Just to walk into (Carter-Finley Stadium), and the enthusiasm in the stadium here, is incredible," O'Brien said. "I've taken teams to State College and beaten Penn State there in front of 100,000 people. I've taken a team to Notre Dame when they were No. 4 in the country and came out in the green jerseys. The excitement that fateful night I was here in September (for the BC-NCSU game) was as good as any place I've ever been."
4. Academic Flexibility — Honest coaches will tell you: Generally speaking, higher academic standards make it harder to win, and lower academic standards make it easier to win. According to research by the ACC Sports Journal and ACCSports.com, Duke, Boston College, Wake Forest and Georgia Tech had by far the most difficult admissions standards for football prospects in recent years among the 12 ACC schools. N.C. State, meanwhile, repeatedly ranked in the bottom third of the conference under Chuck Amato. O'Brien isn't expected to ask the Wolfpack for the same level of academic flexibility, but he certainly will face fewer restrictions than he did at BC. This is only one factor (just look at Wake and Tech this season) in program-building, obviously, but it's an important factor." |
I've taken teams to State College and beaten Penn State there in front of 100,000 people. I've taken a team to Notre Dame when they were No. 4 in the country and came out in the green jerseys. The excitement that fateful night I was here in September (for the BC-NCSU game) was as good as any place I've ever been."
http://html.wral.com/sh/blogger/wralglenn.html12/14/2006 9:22:01 AM |
simonn best gottfriend 28968 Posts user info edit post |
^ as great as that last quote makes us all feel.. i wonder how much he means it. 12/14/2006 9:50:11 AM |
wlb420 All American 9053 Posts user info edit post |
especially when the staduim was only half full by the end of that game.....but it was quite loud for only being @ half capacity. 12/14/2006 9:52:04 AM |
ncsuapex SpaceForRent 37776 Posts user info edit post |
I imagine he was impressed with how loud it got after the TD catch by Dunlap! 12/14/2006 9:53:48 AM |
Blind Hate Suspended 1878 Posts user info edit post |
And you're both fags for questioning him. 12/14/2006 10:06:33 AM |
simonn best gottfriend 28968 Posts user info edit post |
hey, i've been supporting TOB since the announcement. quiet. 12/14/2006 10:21:09 AM |
ncsuapex SpaceForRent 37776 Posts user info edit post |
^^
who are you referring to?? 12/14/2006 10:22:10 AM |
Blind Hate Suspended 1878 Posts user info edit post |
simonn All American 729 Posts user info edit post
^ as great as that last quote makes us all feel.. i wonder how much he means it.
12/14/2006 9:50:11 AM wlb420 All American 2586 Posts user info edit post
especially when the staduim was only half full by the end of that game.....but it was quite loud for only being @ half capacity. 12/14/2006 10:35:15 AM |
jbtilley All American 12797 Posts user info edit post |
So who is BC going to get as a replacement coach? I wonder if they will be taking a step up considering the sentiment that TOB took them as far as he could. 12/14/2006 10:35:17 AM |
wlb420 All American 9053 Posts user info edit post |
i'll bet Blind Hate was one of the 30,000 or so people to leave early just to lie and say he stayed, while flaming people who actually did stay. 12/14/2006 10:37:29 AM |
Blind Hate Suspended 1878 Posts user info edit post |
Guess the world will never know (except for my girlfriend and my buddy and his date!). 12/14/2006 10:40:50 AM |
jman912 All American 1933 Posts user info edit post |
He may be exaggerating about the BC game, but the FSU game was insane. Loudest I've ever heard C-F by a lot. 12/14/2006 11:02:08 AM |
ncsuapex SpaceForRent 37776 Posts user info edit post |
He's seen this crowd get loud, he knows the passion we have so he knows that if he can win 9 games here a year the crowd would EXPLODE and be amongst the top crowds in college football for every home game. This was a huge move up for him. He knows the fan base travels to bowls and he knows that if he wins 9 games here he is going to get a much better bowl than BC ever could. He may not be as flashy or as exciting as people want but where did flash and personality get Chuck?? 12/14/2006 11:06:42 AM |
vert All American 936 Posts user info edit post |
I also fucked Chuck's wife.
12/14/2006 11:10:18 AM |
rflong All American 11472 Posts user info edit post |
^ ha ha
Quote : | "More importantly, according to numerous sources, some in the BC administration had upset O'Brien by asking him why he couldn't "win the big game," a reference to the Eagles' crushing, late-season losses over the last three seasons — Syracuse in 2004, North Carolina in 2005, Wake Forest in 2006 — that prevented them from landing a BCS bid (2004), an ACC championship (2005) and an invitation to the league title game (2006). " |
The loss in 2005 to UNC did not cost BC an ACC championship. It cost them an invitation to the title game, just like this year's loss to Wake.12/14/2006 12:03:12 PM |
sm_superstar Veteran 278 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Point/Counterpoint : Which football head coaching job is better: North Carolina or N.C. State? December 13,2006 MANDY SCHULZ SUN JOURNAL STAFF Wolfpack fix will be quick and easy for O’Brien
This one’s a no-brainer.
Tom O’Brien has more to work with. Sure, both teams finished at 3-9 overall at 2-6 in the ACC. And, yes, N.C. State lost to UNC, but UNC won that for one reason and one reason only — win won for the Gipper.
The players felt obligated to win one for lame-duck coach John Bunting. N.C. State beat two nationally ranked teams in Boston College and Florida State. The potential is there. They just need more consistency, and O’Brien can bring that. The Eagles went 75-45 in his 10 years, and, after going 4-7 in each of his first two seasons, Boston College is headed to its eighth consecutive bowl game.
Hiring O’Brien sets up a positive chain of events for the Wolfpack. When the former Boston College coach guided the Eagles to a 9-3 overall record and 5-3 ACC mark, they were passed over for bigger bowls. Maryland and Clemson got to go to the Champs Sports Bowl and Gaylord Hotels Music City Bowl, respectively, even though Boston College beat them in head-to-head action in 2005 and 2006.
The reason for the snub? Fan support.
That won’t be a problem at N.C. State. The Wolfpack faithful averaged 56,540 fans per game; Carter-Finely seats 57,082. The Eagles’ had the third-lowest home attendance in the ACC at 38,843.
Here’s where the ball gets rolling. More fans entice the money-hungry bowl executives that hand out invitations. The better the bowl, the better the exposure. And, the better the exposure, the more likely N.C. State will recruit top-notch talent.
A former military man, O’Brien won’t have a problem boosting the esteem of his players — and their grade point average. Boston College regularly boasted one of the top graduation rates in the country, even posting a 100 percent mark in 2004.
Sure, Butch Davis resurrected a Miami program. It’s likely that he’ll do the same at UNC. He just won’t do it as quickly as O’Brien. " |
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"Good read for the school and O'Brien, like the UNC diss in there as well...."12/15/2006 12:23:38 AM |
Førte All American 23525 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "win won for the Gipper" |
12/15/2006 12:46:09 AM |
timswar All American 41050 Posts user info edit post |
wow... you had to go all the way out to the Scum Journal to find something comparing us positively to unc...
that's sad... that's really sad... i think i might weep... 12/15/2006 9:09:41 AM |
BobbyDigital Thots and Prayers 41777 Posts user info edit post |
Scum Journal > News & Disturber. 12/15/2006 9:16:41 AM |
pwrstrkdf250 Suspended 60006 Posts user info edit post |
the more I think about it the better I like it
butch davis was a good hire for UNC-CH
but, we have things already in place for our hire to do more right from the beginning than Butch does at unc-ch
I think we made the better hire also, but time will tell 12/15/2006 10:16:12 AM |
BEU All American 12512 Posts user info edit post |
correct me if i am wrong but, did we just expand our stadium to the ruff size of UNC's, and now UNC plans on expanding their stadium again? 12/15/2006 10:17:58 AM |
Drovkin All American 8438 Posts user info edit post |
So how many years until it's a guaranteed loss to UNC like it is in bball now? 12/15/2006 10:18:08 AM |
sober46an3 All American 47925 Posts user info edit post |
um, its already that way.
[Edited on December 15, 2006 at 10:19 AM. Reason : d] 12/15/2006 10:19:10 AM |
Drovkin All American 8438 Posts user info edit post |
well no, we always go into the game saying we should win, and we lose
When till we are the ones that are making the upset? 12/15/2006 10:20:33 AM |
JayMCnasty All American 14180 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "correct me if i am wrong but, did we just expand our stadium to the ruff size of UNC's, and now UNC plans on expanding their stadium again?" |
a stadium is only as big as the fanbase. the fanbase for carolina football will increase, but i still think that it will be a long time before it is as solid as ours.12/15/2006 10:30:42 AM |
jbrick83 All American 23447 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "well no, we always go into the game saying we should win, and we lose" |
Only the dumb ones say that (aka, the majority of the people on this board).12/15/2006 10:30:51 AM |
JayMCnasty All American 14180 Posts user info edit post |
i want to go into the game knowing we should win, then actually win the game. ill be dissapointed if a win over carolina for us is an upset. 12/15/2006 10:31:50 AM |
1234chs All American 2574 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I've taken teams to State College and beaten Penn State there in front of 100,000 people. I've taken a team to Notre Dame when they were No. 4 in the country and came out in the green jerseys. The excitement that fateful night I was here in September (for the BC-NCSU game) was as good as any place I've ever been."
" |
He smelled the urine.12/15/2006 11:14:42 AM |
spydyrwyr All American 3021 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "So how many years until it's a guaranteed loss to UNC like it is in bball now?" |
Attitudes like these are the reason why people say our fan base is a bunch of fickle assholes. That's some NC State Fan Shit right there.12/15/2006 11:17:59 AM |
Crazywade All American 4918 Posts user info edit post |
any word on whether or not we change the gay-ass white endzone? 12/15/2006 2:07:42 PM |