it's a weird debate.

On one side, the administration could respond with, "has their been another murder in the 5+ years since the tailgating restrictions were implemented?"

But on the other side it's like, "was their a murder in the previous 100 years of tailgating prior to that one Richmond game when there were no restrictions?"

7/12/2010 9:55:53 AM

its bogus. a 5 hour restriction has absolutely 0 to do with stopping a shooting. it was the knee jerk reaction of the higher ups as a response.

Related topics:
#9/11
#wariniraq

6 years later its time to live in fear no longer!



NOW GIVE US OUR TAILGATE!!!!




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7/12/2010 9:59:31 AM

Its really only matters 2-3 games a year, since while we're a mediocre team, they love to give us noon kickoffs, so this doesn't come in to play

And its really not a big deal for the 3.30 games, since not too many people are going to get out there before 10.30 anyway

It only matters for the night games, when people like to come out before noon, set up the dish, watch a full day of games while drinking and stuffing their face to their hearts content

and their robbing us of that god given liberty

7/12/2010 10:07:10 AM

it totally comes into play. I would be out there before 7 if it was allowed. wasn't the game during which the shooting occured a noon game? or maybe 3:30? i can't remember, time + beer = shitty memory.

7/12/2010 11:10:12 AM

It was a 6:00 game I believe. We usually schedule the early-in-the-season D-2 schools at 6:00.

7/12/2010 11:43:24 AM

yes it was a 6pm game vs richmond. 42-0

7/12/2010 11:51:08 AM

ok, so i have a bad memory.

the one good thing that has come from that shooting is the increased police presence in the fairgrounds lot. at least now if a fight breaks out, they can do their jobs and deal with it.

7/12/2010 1:35:20 PM

oops. missed that in the college football thread.

[Edited on July 12, 2010 at 2:56 PM. Reason : my fault]

7/12/2010 2:54:23 PM

^ (a good way)

Is that Sendek with a sweater over his shoulders. The little i liked him just all disappeared

7/12/2010 4:45:50 PM

looks like a tshirt...was probably giving free ones away

7/12/2010 8:51:52 PM

I saw that too. It really looks a lot like him.

7/13/2010 12:09:12 AM

updated response from Debbie Yow:

Quote :

"Kevin, Thanks for providing the history on this issue. I will need to take the time to carefully listen to the VP for Student Affairs regarding his rationale for the recommendation and also talk to Bobby and David Horning. I promise I'll do that and review the whole thing during the season. I believe the time was extended to 5 hours. Sorry I can't say something more specific right now, but I like to fully review these kinds of concerns. Always bad form to be loud and wrong. Thanks. Debbie "

7/13/2010 8:45:30 AM

Fucking sweet!

and this made me lol

Quote :

"well the cheesy line is to appeal to a 59 year old woman. i thought about ending it with "GET DRUNK, GO STATE!", but i opted for the cheese."

7/13/2010 8:52:12 AM

i just watched last years game against UNC again

please TOB, don't keep Chris Ward suspended for the season. I can't handle another season of Ruiz punting. Good fucking lord. There has got to at least be some walk-on option that would be better than him.

7/13/2010 11:50:57 AM

^I saw on PP that a poster on there claims they've heard good things about Ward being reinstated for the season. Honestly getting caught with an open container in the passenger seat underage shouldn't be something he's suspended long-term for anyway.

7/13/2010 12:21:46 PM

^99.9 was going on and on yesterday about how that UNC linebacker marijuana possession thing was no big deal and at most the guy should be suspended for one series. Kick the persecution complex knob up to 11 and I figure they'd be for yanking 60 scholarships had that been one of ours.

7/13/2010 2:55:19 PM

didn't we have four guys get caught w/ marijuana?

7/13/2010 3:06:49 PM

Oh yeah, forgot about that.

Guess they'll be sitting out a series.

7/13/2010 3:10:41 PM

and our guys had rented a pot den, pretty much an apartment for the sole purpose of smoking weed (hopefully not for distribution). This is one case where we shouldn't be throwing stones UNC's way... even though Sturdivant is a huge doucher.

7/13/2010 3:16:04 PM

It shouldn't be a big deal.

Quote :

"and our guys had rented a pot den, pretty much an apartment for the sole purpose of smoking weed"

really? nobody lived there?

[Edited on July 13, 2010 at 3:17 PM. Reason : ]

7/13/2010 3:16:25 PM

Quote :

"and our guys had rented a pot den, pretty much an apartment for the sole purpose of smoking weed"

Where are you getting this from? And it makes absolutely no sense to rent a pot den at College Inn of all places.

7/13/2010 4:22:43 PM

^I'm not trying speculate one way or another. I just got that from one of the news articles which detailed the charges...

http://abclocal.go.com/wtvd/story?section=news/local&id=7406536

Quote :

"Sweezy, Vermiglio and Kuhn are charged with possession of marijuana, possession of paraphernalia and maintaining a dwelling for the purpose of using a controlled substance. Bryan faces only one charge -- maintaining a dwelling for the purpose of using a controlled substance"

Perhaps that was just creative charges by the arresting officer(s), I don't know anything about it.

7/13/2010 4:42:24 PM

LOL, the maintaining a dwelling charge in no way means they rented that apartment solely to smoke weed. If you get caught with drugs in a car they can charge you with maintaining a vehicle, if you get caught with drugs in a house they can charge you with maintaining a dwelling.

7/13/2010 4:45:36 PM

^forgive my ignorance of such things. Like I said, I don't know anything about it and I read a bunch of commentary and adjacent articles where this charge was blown out of proportion.

7/13/2010 4:53:03 PM

i bet kuhn was a little miffed.

He probably told the cops: "In Germany this is legal...schiza!"

7/14/2010 11:18:32 AM

Quote :

"Atlantic Coast Conference ACC Atlantic 1. Florida State 2. Clemson 3. Boston College Insider Free 4. NC State 5. Maryland 6. Wake Forest ACC Coastal 1. Georgia Tech 2. Virginia Tech 3. North Carolina Insider Free 4. Miami 5. Duke 6. Virginia All-ACC Team Offense WR: Donovan Varner, Duke WR: Torrey Smith, Maryland OL: Rodney Hudson, Florida State OL: Anthony Castonzo, Boston College OL: Sean Bedford, Georgia Tech OL: Chris Hairston, Clemson OL: Blake DeChristopher, Virginia Tech QB: Joshua Nesbitt, Georgia Tech RB: Montel Harris, Boston College RB: Ryan Williams, Virginia Tech TE: George Bryan, NC State Defense DL: Robert Quinn, North Carolina DL: Marvin Austin, North Carolina DL: Jarvis Jenkins, Clemson DL: Allen Bailey, Miami LB: Quan Sturdivant, North Carolina LB: Luke Kuechly, Boston College LB: Alex Wujciak, Maryland DB: Brandon Harris, Miami DB: Ras-I Dowling, Virginia DB: Deunta Williams, North Carolina DB: Kendric Burney, North Carolina DB: DeAndre McDaniel, Clemson Specialists K: Matt Bosher, Miami KR: T.J. Graham, NC State P: Travis Baltz, Maryland PR: Greg Reid, Florida State Offensive Player of the Year Joshua Nesbitt, QB, Georgia Tech Defensive Player of the Year Robert Quinn, DL, North Carolina Newcomer of the Year Mustafa Greene, RB, NC State "

7/16/2010 11:23:24 AM

Quote :

"Newcomer of the Year Mustafa Greene, RB, NC State ""

now THAT is nice to see

7/16/2010 11:30:34 AM

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"ACC Atlantic 1. Florida State 2. Clemson 3. Boston College Insider Free 4. NC State 5. Maryland 6. Wake Forest ACC Coastal 1. Georgia Tech 2. Virginia Tech 3. North Carolina Insider Free 4. Miami 5. Duke 6. Virginia "

solid predictions...getting to 3 or 4 in the atlantic is satisfactory imo

7/16/2010 11:38:37 AM

Quote :

"please TOB, don't keep Chris Ward suspended for the season. I can't handle another season of Ruiz punting. Good fucking lord. There has got to at least be some walk-on option that would be better than him."

looks like we are stuck with him for another year

http://northcarolinastate.scout.com/2/984343.html

7/16/2010 1:27:05 PM

[Edited on July 16, 2010 at 1:27 PM. Reason : dbl post]

7/16/2010 1:27:26 PM

BUMBACLOT!

7/16/2010 1:43:11 PM

GODDAMMIT

7/16/2010 1:58:41 PM

Quick, let's get some soccer players in there to punt like someone with some sense

7/16/2010 2:38:12 PM

7/16/2010 3:01:21 PM

Can that #2 recruit kicker we picked up punt?

7/16/2010 3:18:18 PM

49

7/17/2010 8:57:39 AM

Who would have suspected underage drinking at a catholic school with a leprechaun for a mascot and a man named Kelly coaching the football team

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=5388648

7/17/2010 6:25:38 PM

I can't wait! I just got a letter in the mail today that said my brick has been installed on the Dail Plaza.

7/18/2010 2:25:28 AM

Fucking hell @ Ruiz

7/18/2010 3:44:36 AM

Quote :

"Quote : "please TOB, don't keep Chris Ward suspended for the season. I can't handle another season of Ruiz punting. Good fucking lord. There has got to at least be some walk-on option that would be better than him." looks like we are stuck with him for another year"

Ward wasn't better than Ruiz last year. Why do you think he would have beat him out for the starting position this year?

Quote :

"Can that #2 recruit kicker we picked up punt?"

We don't have a kicker committed.
Wil Baumann is the #2 ranked punter.

7/18/2010 10:43:33 AM

ok, then maybe I'm confused. What is the problem? We just signed the #2 punter in the nation, who cares if we have Ward or Ruiz?

7/19/2010 1:15:15 PM

We haven't signed the #2 punter, he's committed to come in 2011. He won't be there this fall.

7/19/2010 1:17:29 PM

http://www.citizen-times.com/article/20100718/SPORTS0203/307180013

Quote :

"Walgenbach will soon begin his life as a college student at N.C. State and hasn't ruled out trying to walk-on the Wolfpack football team as a punter or quarterback in 2011."

He also separated a shoulder, tore his MCL, and got swine flu. So he'll fit in great here.

7/19/2010 1:27:51 PM

if Ward couldn't have beaten out Ruiz, then there is a magnificent problem with that kid who was touted as a phenomenal punter

either way, he's gone now

SIX YARD PUNT

7/19/2010 2:02:36 PM

ooooooooooooooooooooo, I see

7/19/2010 2:43:44 PM

God you know our football team sucks when we spend 2 pages of a thread arguing about the punter and wondering what our options are. WTF?

7/19/2010 3:19:16 PM

http://www.gopack.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=9200&ATCLID=204969077

People recognizing Wilson's skills

7/19/2010 4:00:57 PM

If Wilson were to win an award like the Manning or Davey O'Brien Award then he would solidify him getting his name on the side of the West upper deck and having his number retired. I doubt it goes to him though because it'll probably go to some QB at a football powerhouse that is a media darling, even if his numbers aren't better than Wilson's.

7/19/2010 5:29:44 PM

Quote :

"I doubt it goes to him though because it'll probably go to some QB at a football powerhouse that is a media darling, even if his numbers aren't better than Wilson's."

Jason White comes to mind reading that sentence...

7/19/2010 5:31:17 PM

Quote :

"Quote : "Can that #2 recruit kicker we picked up punt?""

Quote :

"We don't have a kicker committed. Wil Baumann is the #2 ranked punter."

I might've crapped up the quote tags there, but we did sign the #2 kicker for the 2010 season, Billy Bennett. He went to BC, then to a Juco in CA, and now he's coming here. I don't know if he can punt.

[Edited on July 19, 2010 at 6:00 PM. Reason : tryna fix the quotes]

7/19/2010 5:59:34 PM