synapse play so hard 60939 Posts user info edit post |
You got kdogg'd 12/1/2017 7:01:05 PM |
bdmazur ?? ????? ?? 14957 Posts user info edit post |
Cory Booker's live stream is on point
https://www.facebook.com/corybooker/videos/10157467061267228/?hc_ref=ARShWTRNCmXgW5kIHz8EhWJkPZsGkd2R1pFcVWYOoXn5UDvr4AjKkWK0pEwPk8MEnQE 12/1/2017 9:45:08 PM |
tulsigabbard Suspended 2953 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "revealing they only care about keeping illegal aliens in the country, are soft on crime, and want to raise taxes and shut down the government." |
Quote : | "^^How does that reveal anything other than they won't put up with his antics?
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That was the exchange12/1/2017 10:01:20 PM |
Bullet All American 28417 Posts user info edit post |
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/12/04/ex-florida-democratic-rep-corrine-brown-sentenced-for-mail-wire-and-tax-fraud-involving-sham-charity.html 12/5/2017 11:16:27 AM |
Cherokee All American 8264 Posts user info edit post |
Gradulate!
[Edited on December 5, 2017 at 11:49 AM. Reason : a] 12/5/2017 11:49:21 AM |
ncsusoccer06 Veteran 197 Posts user info edit post |
Conyers stepping down today now.
Still -1 credibility for the harassment issues alone. 12/5/2017 12:43:18 PM |
NyM410 J-E-T-S 50085 Posts user info edit post |
Four female Dem Senators called on Franken to resign this morning. They are right. 12/6/2017 11:41:21 AM |
dtownral Suspended 26632 Posts user info edit post |
let's see if the democratic machine can find a video of her dancing 12/6/2017 11:45:17 AM |
Bullet All American 28417 Posts user info edit post |
...or grabbing a guy's ass
I didn't think the picture was a big deal, but yeah, supposedly there are seven other accusers, and if they're legit, he needs to step down. 12/6/2017 11:49:37 AM |
dtownral Suspended 26632 Posts user info edit post |
yeah, maybe there is a video of her dancing with someone who then grabs her ass and she grabs his back 12/6/2017 11:50:43 AM |
Bullet All American 28417 Posts user info edit post |
but, but, but what if the guy didn't grab her ass back because he felt violated instead??? That would be assault. But if he grabs her back, then everything is cool. 12/6/2017 11:54:20 AM |
dtownral Suspended 26632 Posts user info edit post |
that's a good idea, maybe the democratic machine can find men to accuse the 7 women of assaulting them first 12/6/2017 11:58:18 AM |
HCH All American 3895 Posts user info edit post |
Really looking forward to Franken's presidential candidacy announcement during tomorrow's press conference. 12/6/2017 1:27:23 PM |
dtownral Suspended 26632 Posts user info edit post |
if franken resigns will you make a public post about how the democratic party is more credible than the GOP? 12/6/2017 1:34:38 PM |
Exiled Eyes up here ^^ 5918 Posts user info edit post |
The fact that the GOP already elected a President embroiled in several sexual misconduct accusations really already put the Dems on plus credibility in comparison. Though really, both parties are trash. 12/6/2017 1:46:14 PM |
thegoodlife3 All American 39304 Posts user info edit post |
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2017/12/i-believe-frankens-accusers-because-he-groped-me-too/547691/?utm_source=atltw 12/6/2017 3:48:06 PM |
UJustWait84 All American 25821 Posts user info edit post |
He should have resigned nearly 3 weeks ago when all of this came out. It pisses me off some of you people were defending him, but now you're trying to jump on the bandwagon to say "well at least we will have the credibility upper hand" 12/6/2017 3:50:41 PM |
tulsigabbard Suspended 2953 Posts user info edit post |
They are only trying to strategically time it to have the greatest impact on next week's election 12/6/2017 3:55:36 PM |
dtownral Suspended 26632 Posts user info edit post |
^^^ i was the one who made the credibility post and i never defended franken
[Edited on December 6, 2017 at 4:09 PM. Reason : .] 12/6/2017 4:09:31 PM |
thegoodlife3 All American 39304 Posts user info edit post |
neither did I 12/6/2017 4:22:53 PM |
TerdFerguson All American 6600 Posts user info edit post |
<--defended Franken and still thinks this is all a Roger Stone Production (tm) 12/6/2017 5:50:27 PM |
synapse play so hard 60939 Posts user info edit post |
^^, ^^^ clearly over ^'d 12/6/2017 6:07:10 PM |
thegoodlife3 All American 39304 Posts user info edit post |
wasn't replying to him 12/6/2017 6:53:16 PM |
synapse play so hard 60939 Posts user info edit post |
if you say so 12/6/2017 7:26:23 PM |
thegoodlife3 All American 39304 Posts user info edit post |
glad to see you're on the case, though 12/6/2017 7:32:19 PM |
synapse play so hard 60939 Posts user info edit post |
it's nice to be appreciated 12/6/2017 7:50:58 PM |
HCH All American 3895 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "The fact that the GOP already elected a President embroiled in several sexual misconduct accusations really already put the Dems on plus credibility in comparison." |
The Kennedys and Clintons agree with this statement.
Quote : | "if franken resigns will you make a public post about how the democratic party is more credible than the GOP?" |
It depends on what your definition of is, is.
Quote : | "He should have resigned nearly 3 weeks ago when all of this came out. It pisses me off some of you people were defending him, but now you're trying to jump on the bandwagon to say "well at least we will have the credibility upper hand"" |
Exactly. This shouldn't be some sort of partisan issue. If you are a sexual predator, you shouldn't be a senator, no matter what your party affiliation is.
[Edited on December 6, 2017 at 9:02 PM. Reason : plural]12/6/2017 9:02:11 PM |
ncsusoccer06 Veteran 197 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Exactly. This shouldn't be some sort of partisan issue. If you are a sexual predator, you shouldn't be a senator, no matter what your party affiliation is." |
Not just a senator - but in any public position at all. My issue with it all - and yes it was handled very poorly from a Democrat standpoint -is the level of hypocrisy and non-reciprocity involving the same (somewhat even worse in the case of Moore) issues.
I mean the whole quote of "some of you dems defended him" is so outrageous (albeit not incorrect) when we have a sitting president that has admitted to the exact same things.12/7/2017 8:24:54 AM |
dtownral Suspended 26632 Posts user info edit post |
it's hilarious seeing the talking heads on Fox News now defend franken and call this a democratic witch hunt, looks like their bluff got called 12/7/2017 9:48:48 AM |
dtownral Suspended 26632 Posts user info edit post |
Franken is going to make a speech to the senate at 11:45
Democrats are calling on Franken to resign, meanwhile the Republican party is endorsing and supporting a child predator 12/7/2017 10:24:49 AM |
bdmazur ?? ????? ?? 14957 Posts user info edit post |
There's also a huge difference between "I don't think he actually groped her without her permission" and "Of course he banged that 14 year old, good for him!" Because that's the difference between a Franken supporter and a Moore supporter right now. 12/10/2017 2:46:12 AM |
tulsigabbard Suspended 2953 Posts user info edit post |
I get that you are speaking hypothetically, but as of now, Moore supporters don't acknowledge the credibility of any of the allegations... 12/10/2017 12:40:43 PM |
bdmazur ?? ????? ?? 14957 Posts user info edit post |
I'm not speaking hypothetically. Actual people have said that. 12/10/2017 1:50:12 PM |
jbtilley All American 12797 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "There's also a huge difference between "I don't think he actually groped her without her permission" and "Of course he banged that 14 year old, good for him!" Because that's the difference between a Franken supporter and a Moore supporter right now." |
If it's good enough for Jesus' step dad...12/10/2017 7:51:17 PM |
tulsigabbard Suspended 2953 Posts user info edit post |
I wasn't around before Clinton but the precedent for ignoring what a politician does in his personal life was definitely set with the Lewinski scandal. His scandals were far worse than what we are seeing now, on the job, and lied about under oath. There is no way he would survive that today. 12/10/2017 8:09:11 PM |
Doss2k All American 18474 Posts user info edit post |
Lewinski was also a consensual relationship right? Even if it was a dick move these cases aren't really the same. 12/11/2017 2:40:36 PM |
Cherokee All American 8264 Posts user info edit post |
So the consensual aspect may be debatable. A lot of harassment arguments in general center on whether the person was in a position of power or not. 12/11/2017 3:36:10 PM |
dtownral Suspended 26632 Posts user info edit post |
where can i bet on if the DNC adopts this? DNC 'unity' panel recommends huge cut in superdelegates https://www.politico.com/story/2017/12/09/dnc-superdelegates-unity-commission-288634
Quote : | "A commission set up to help reform the Democratic presidential nominating process has voted to restrict the number of superdelegates as part of a slew of changes.
The Democratic Party’s Unity Reform Commission is recommending cutting the number of superdelegates by about 400, equal to a 60 percent reduction. Many of the remaining superdelegates would see their vote tied to the results in their state.
The commission is also suggesting that absentee voting be required as an option for presidential caucus participants. It is calling for automatic voter registration and same-day voter registration. And it wants to mandate public reporting of raw vote totals from caucus states.
The recommendations will now go to the Democratic National Committee’s rules and bylaws committee, and then likely to the full 447-member Democratic National Committee for consideration sometime next year, where it will need two-thirds support to pass. [...]" |
12/11/2017 3:36:39 PM |
dtownral Suspended 26632 Posts user info edit post |
Another great headline from the DNC Unity Reform Commission:
Nomiki Konst calls out DNC leaders for corruption and dishonesty https://youtu.be/UGpMCs7ZAi0
related: is TYT still trash or did it get good again? 12/11/2017 3:41:20 PM |
Cherokee All American 8264 Posts user info edit post |
^^https://www.metaculus.com/questions/
https://www.betmoose.com/
^wow that's a good video. found this as a related video:
https://youtu.be/qL7-dzvm58A?t=129
[Edited on December 11, 2017 at 5:51 PM. Reason : a] 12/11/2017 5:45:34 PM |
dtownral Suspended 26632 Posts user info edit post |
If anyone was wondering why the clinonists purged all the progressives in the DNC recently, this is why. The rules and bylaws committee is now safely establishment clintonists who can quickly reject the rules that threaten their power.
And all of the "we need party unity, not infighting!" clintonists will be noticeably silent as the party rejects the the few compromises the progressives got in the panel established to create party unity (a panel in which progressives were outnumbered)
But hey, at least people are starting to make fun of r/neoliberal so we got that going for us which is nice 12/12/2017 3:49:01 PM |
NyM410 J-E-T-S 50085 Posts user info edit post |
It’s hilarious to see Democrats think McConnell will consider for a second delaying the tax vote like they did for Scott Brown and healthcare in 2010. Idealistic fools. No wonder the GOP controls everything. 12/13/2017 11:27:46 AM |
dtownral Suspended 26632 Posts user info edit post |
did they think they would actually wait, or were they just calling our republicans for their hypocrisy 12/13/2017 11:36:06 AM |
thegoodlife3 All American 39304 Posts user info edit post |
the latter 12/13/2017 11:37:51 AM |
tulsigabbard Suspended 2953 Posts user info edit post |
^^,^ that is their entire platform
Quote : | "Lewinski was also a consensual relationship right? Even if it was a dick move these cases aren't really the same." |
That one was so much worse because it happened (literally) in office. Most of these other cases happened so long ago. Franken's resignation was a political move to gain leverage. They will maintain the seat and picked up the Alabama seat because of it. Smart sacrifice bunt.
At this rate, I expect elections will become full-on canonization processes where white smoke will be released from the capital dome to indicate the time the most righteous candidate has been found.
[Edited on December 14, 2017 at 1:13 AM. Reason : k]12/14/2017 1:13:26 AM |
ncsusoccer06 Veteran 197 Posts user info edit post |
^ having a consensual relationship regardless of where it occurs, when it occurs, and if it is morally right or not will never be worse than sexual harassment. Ever. Period.
/end 12/14/2017 8:11:00 AM |
rwoody Save TWW 37695 Posts user info edit post |
^uhh Lewinsky was Clinton's employee...
Do you assume she initiated the relationship? (or has this been stated and I don't know) given Clinton's history, I assume he initiated, which is sexual harassment even if she was into it 12/14/2017 8:29:11 AM |
Cherokee All American 8264 Posts user info edit post |
I think under the law, even if it was consensual, if it involved someone in a position of power they can go down for harrassment 12/14/2017 8:30:09 AM |
ncsusoccer06 Veteran 197 Posts user info edit post |
I stand corrected in the rule of law. 12/14/2017 8:41:06 AM |
dtownral Suspended 26632 Posts user info edit post |
someone missed HR day at the office 12/14/2017 9:44:06 AM |