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I tried to read your post JCE, but once the liberal name calling begins I check out.

10/23/2015 11:49:27 AM

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Synapse: the soapbox king of posting links and one sentence replies without actually posting anything.

10/23/2015 12:33:48 PM

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and offering advice on how to make people take you more seriously, if you have any interest in that (doubtful, I know).

10/23/2015 1:00:09 PM

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Because nothing says "serious" like a "La La La I'm not listening" response to valid criticism.

10/23/2015 2:26:23 PM

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The collapse of Jeb continues:
http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2015-10-23/jeb-bush-orders-across-the-board-pay-cuts-for-struggling-campaign

10/24/2015 11:01:50 AM

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I still submit !Jeb didn't want to run but felt obligated to do so because of his family legacy and all the money he knew he could easily raise. I've always interpreted his low energy as borderline apathy. As a knowledgeable Republican insider with lots of insider knowlege, I've always agreed with the pundits asking who in real life was actually excited about a !Jeb presidential campaign?

10/25/2015 8:42:25 AM

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I enjoy the fact that after bitching about a "Junior Senator from Illinois" becoming president with little political experience, the top 2 candidates are people with No political experience.

Or that after the whole birther fiasco Ted Cruz a Canadian born US-citizen with a Cuban Dad is a presidential candidate.

They should just re-label the GOP the "hypocrisy party"

10/27/2015 2:13:42 PM

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I'm still stuck on Cruz saying "as a Cuban, I want my codename to be Cohiba" that raised no eyebrows anywhere (not that it should really)... Couldn't imagine Obama saying in a national debate "as a Kenyan, I want my codename to be Odinga".

10/27/2015 4:44:05 PM

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http://www.npr.org/sections/itsallpolitics/2015/10/27/452328543/this-arena-has-11-000-seats-but-10-000-will-be-empty-during-the-gop-debate

[Edited on October 28, 2015 at 12:14 PM. Reason : What was the democrat debate attendance like?]

10/28/2015 12:12:53 PM

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That's odd; I wonder if the RNC is attempting to minimize any booing or jeering from any students who might attend.

Also, this is somewhat hilarious:

http://www.politico.com/story/2015/10/campaigns-gripe-over-greenrooms-at-third-gop-debate-215226

10/28/2015 1:01:15 PM

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lol I love comment sections.

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"maybe if they worked harder and were smarter they could EARN a better green room. No one is entitled to a nice green room; time to put on your big boy pants and pick yourselves up by your bootstraps"

10/28/2015 3:37:12 PM

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Wait, these GOP people have been talking about income inequality all fucking night.

I guess they #FeelTheBern too.

10/28/2015 9:47:23 PM

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http://fivethirtyeight.com/live-blog/cnbc-republican-debate-presidential-election-2016/?#livepress-update-23806101

Lots of good fact checking there

10/28/2015 10:00:01 PM

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"I'm still stuck on Cruz saying "as a Cuban, I want my codename to be Cohiba" that raised no eyebrows anywhere (not that it should really)... Couldn't imagine Obama saying in a national debate "as a Kenyan, I want my codename to be Odinga"."


Good point. The Obama campaign was super careful not to emphasize his race, just like the Clinton campaign has yet to mention her gender.

10/28/2015 10:02:14 PM

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My eyebrows are unraised.

10/28/2015 10:04:12 PM

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Some of these questions are pretty questionable, I have to agree with the candidates on this.

10/28/2015 10:38:51 PM

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Yeah tough/gotcha questions are one thing, and Anderson Cooper did well with those, but those moderators deserved to be called out for the questions pitting one candidate vs another.

10/28/2015 10:50:06 PM

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well, at least they didn't ask the "do black live matter or do all lives matter?"

The debates are so god damned useless. All they ever are is who can get their talking points out best or who can come across as likeable. There's almost no actual substance or point to them.

10/28/2015 10:53:07 PM

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"who can get their talking points out best or who can come across as likeable"


that's incredibly important for a primary debate -- because those they're trying to convince are primary voters who probably would like for them to win the general election.

those are also very important skills for an effective president to have.

10/28/2015 11:06:28 PM

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And outside of Trump, there was plenty of substance to be had, especially from the winner of the night Rubio.

[Edited on October 28, 2015 at 11:10 PM. Reason : Cruz was my second place, both for substance and for calling out the moderators.]

10/28/2015 11:09:15 PM

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I'm surprised the RNC agreed to let any branch of NBC host. Of course the moderators would be hostile. Would Democrats ever let Fox News moderate their debate?

[Edited on October 29, 2015 at 3:37 AM. Reason : -]

10/29/2015 3:36:51 AM

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So Bush is pretty much dead in the water, right?

10/29/2015 8:27:50 AM

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"Would Democrats ever let Fox News moderate their debate?"


They were going to in 2007 right up until Ailes compared Barack Obama to Osama Bin Laden

Ailes also once said "any candidate of either party who cannot answer direct, simple, even tough questions from any journalist runs a real risk of losing the voters."

so good thing that's exactly what republicans have doing since 2007

10/29/2015 8:56:52 AM

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Did anyone else find it interesting they talked about income equality over and over last night?

10/29/2015 10:44:38 AM

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^ they talked about it without talking about any solutions-- but i guess most watchers wouldn't realize that.

Their tax plans overwhelmingly embrace the failed idea of trickle down economics, a "flat tax" would make this even worse.

10/29/2015 11:14:41 AM

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I loved Ted Cruz shitting on the media. 10/10

10/29/2015 11:29:00 AM

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Yeah he had a good night overall, but was at his best there.

10/29/2015 11:59:01 AM

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Ted Cruz did that to distract from the fact he is a big player in the gridlock and manufactured crisis driven legislation. Anyway any bets on when Jeb drops out?

10/29/2015 12:13:58 PM

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"Ted Cruz did that to distract from the fact he is a big player in the gridlock and manufactured crisis driven legislation."


Ehh as much as I dislike Cruz, especially for the things you mention, that's not what he was doing. Those idiot moderators set him up for a home run with yet another "attack a candidate" question and he jumped on it. Unfortunately the things you mention didn't really come up.

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We're not there yet.

10/29/2015 12:57:26 PM

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My bias must be clouding my judgment, because I wasn't a fan of Cruz's debate performance.

When he completely failed to answer one of the questions that he was asked, I was content with the moderator moving on once Cruz's time was up.

10/29/2015 1:13:04 PM

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He's emotional sometimes, but very energetic and talkative.

10/29/2015 1:19:00 PM

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Jeb doesn't seem very smart or cut out to be president... i'm not sure how he got this far. I'm also confused now how he was perceived as being the smarter Bush brother, when at best, he seems as smart as GWB.

10/29/2015 1:24:20 PM

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really not that difficult to understand how he got this far...

10/29/2015 1:42:42 PM

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Surprise surprise, Carson is a liar and a quack doctor

http://gawker.com/ben-carson-denies-involvement-with-nutritional-suppleme-1739310975

Fucking lying asshole

10/29/2015 2:07:24 PM

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lol at Bush's embarrassing, poorly delivered "jab" at Rubio. That was just pathetic. Trump and/or Biden would have pulled that off much better than he did.

It's funny how "talk about your greatest weakness" is basically interview question #1 that everybody prepares for, and yet some of these "accomplished" politicians totally whiffed at a great opportunity to show some humility. Trump's answer was by far the best, in fact I may steal it for my next interview.

He was my winner on the night.

And lol at the irony regarding Cruz and the media. Because here we are, the day after the debate, and most media outlets are praising him for seizing the momentum and changing the atmosphere last night and deriding Bush for bringing up fantasy football.



[Edited on October 29, 2015 at 2:13 PM. Reason : j]

10/29/2015 2:10:27 PM

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^^
http://us.mannatech.com/real-possiblities/real-income-within-reach/compensation-plan/

Ha, that company is also a pyramid scheme too.



[Edited on October 29, 2015 at 2:12 PM. Reason : ]

10/29/2015 2:12:23 PM

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Holy shit!

When I first heard that a pediatric surgeon was running for the presidency, I was hoping he would become the president. This is before I knew anything about him.

But the things that have come out about him... it is a disgrace to the noble medical profession and to JHU that this guy ever came near them.

How does such a lying anti-scientific classist become a doctor, let alone a chair at JHU???

What a shame.

10/29/2015 2:33:06 PM

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Evidently he wants to "get us to mature as a society" and said the country can discuss complicated issues as adults, and he suggested people could learn from his example...



[of comparing everything to Hitler and slavery]

10/29/2015 3:38:04 PM

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^^ by being good at surgery.

why people think that someone is great at a particular thing makes them great at all things (or great at unrelated things) is frustrating. Same thing applies to people who trust the opinions of actors on science or politics. But at least with actors, they usually speak up because they know they have a platform (and only occasionally because they really buy into their own hype).

10/29/2015 10:28:49 PM

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Carson is pretty quick to backtrack when he gets called out for something, and he generally refuses to attack other people. He normally answers noncommittally to questions where he doesn't or can't know the answer to (which realistically is a majority of question we ask these candidates), and people tend to take these responses are hard affirmations or rejections of the questions, when Carson is literally saying he's not sure.

It's a little staggering how he doesn't seem to have a deep knowledge or passion for anything political, and I don't get why he's really running-- he doesn't seem to have an agenda, he's just a "religious conservative".

He tends to use a lot of doublespeak where he'll insinuate a position but phrase it in a way where he technically isn't standing for or against an issue. I think his answer to the Costco marriage equality is a clear example (but there are others). He's saying he doesn't have a problem with gays having rights, but he believes marriage is between a man and woman... what does this even mean? Does he want to ban gay marriage? Amend the constitution? Repeal Obama's orders giving gays equality for fed gov jobs? This is a meaningless statement, that does insinuate certain things, but you couldn't pin anything to Carson just based on the statement.

10/30/2015 12:35:51 AM

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He lacks any form of passion. He's just getting the cheap votes at this point and has no staying power.

10/30/2015 12:58:51 AM

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"why people think that someone is great at a particular thing makes them great at all things (or great at unrelated things) is frustrating."


No, I just expect a surgeon not to be selling junk science peddled by a pyramid scheme company! Those things are VERY related!

10/30/2015 2:17:47 AM

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https://consortiumnews.com/2015/10/29/gop-and-the-rise-of-anti-knowledge/

10/30/2015 11:21:14 AM

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The Republican National Committee has announced that it will suspend its February debate with NBC News due to anger with CNBC's handling of this week's debate in Boulder, Colorado.

http://money.cnn.com/2015/10/30/media/gop-debates-nbc-reince-priebus/index.html

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"The letter from Priebus is a move to assert control over the debate process at a time when Republican campaigns seem poised to wrest control from the RNC's hands.

On Thursday, representatives from several campaigns made plans to hold a Sunday meeting in Washington, D.C., to discuss plans for wresting more control of the debates from the committee.

Though Priebus joined the candidates in expressing deep disappointment with CNBC's handling of the debate, several campaigns fault him and the RNC for failing to ensure that the debates are conducted in a substantive, focused and non-biased manner."


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10/30/2015 2:33:54 PM

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^ that's some quality showmanship right there. Feeds the narrative the media is anti-Republican.

10/30/2015 2:46:05 PM

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we should just make all debates be on c-span

10/30/2015 2:49:09 PM

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What happened to "personal responsibility" anyway? They're blaming CNBC for looking like disorganized and snippy... but they have control over their own bodies right? SMH...

10/30/2015 2:51:32 PM

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Clinton withstood 9 hours of questioning that all but accused her of negligent homicide, and she handled it like a President. The GOP candidates cry after one hour of softballs.

10/30/2015 4:17:17 PM

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apparently the RNC has put the next debate on hold with NBC

10/31/2015 12:18:26 AM

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I would not be surprised if they never do a debate on anything other than fox news and maybe cnn ever again.

10/31/2015 3:53:40 PM

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