moron All American 34142 Posts user info edit post |
Sanders ideologies are the future, but it doesn't look like its his time...
It's going to be a rough 4/8 years though.
3/1/2016 11:26:21 PM |
The E Man Suspended 15268 Posts user info edit post |
he's doing well everywhere except the deep south and south is pretty much over. Hillary has only narrowly won states outside of the deep south. not to mention those are all deep red states. 3/1/2016 11:36:57 PM |
UJustWait84 All American 25821 Posts user info edit post |
Bernie is done folks. I know you wish it weren't true, but it's time to accept reality. 3/2/2016 12:13:53 AM |
synapse play so hard 60939 Posts user info edit post |
^ I did so weeks ago.
http://www.npr.org/2016/03/01/468185698/understanding-the-clintons-popularity-with-black-voters 3/2/2016 12:25:01 AM |
UJustWait84 All American 25821 Posts user info edit post |
To be fair, only delusional, rabid Sanders supporters actually thought he stood a chance. 3/2/2016 12:34:30 AM |
adultswim Suspended 8379 Posts user info edit post |
even 538 predicts that sanders will win most of the rest of the states, and he hasn't started campaigning in many of the others. bill only won 1 of the first 12 primaries. it's not over. what do y'all gain by wussing out early and claiming a loss? potentially "being right"? if you want sanders to win, stop contributing to the narrative that it's already over. 3/2/2016 12:44:39 AM |
The E Man Suspended 15268 Posts user info edit post |
Theres only 3 southern states left and a lot of time. One bad email comes out and hillary could only have 3 states left to win. 3/2/2016 12:46:57 AM |
synapse play so hard 60939 Posts user info edit post |
Sanders is probably done.
But that doesn't legitamize the "it's time to support Hillary" argument.
[Edited on March 2, 2016 at 1:11 AM. Reason : ^,^^ speaking of delusional ] 3/2/2016 1:09:38 AM |
UJustWait84 All American 25821 Posts user info edit post |
It does if you're terrified of Donald Trump 3/2/2016 1:11:51 AM |
synapse play so hard 60939 Posts user info edit post |
I can't imagine many Democrats are.
Is that actually the steam behind the "it's time to support Hillary" argument? 3/2/2016 1:19:11 AM |
dtownral Suspended 26632 Posts user info edit post |
3/2/2016 8:28:02 AM |
The E Man Suspended 15268 Posts user info edit post |
why isn't nevada aslo black? Why isn't sc red?
[Edited on March 2, 2016 at 10:15 AM. Reason : whats going on ] 3/2/2016 10:14:47 AM |
stowaway All American 11770 Posts user info edit post |
why is NC red? 3/2/2016 10:39:27 AM |
Exiled Eyes up here ^^ 5918 Posts user info edit post |
Yeah, I don't understand this map... 3/2/2016 10:50:15 AM |
dtownral Suspended 26632 Posts user info edit post |
i don't understand it either 3/2/2016 10:52:27 AM |
The E Man Suspended 15268 Posts user info edit post |
no ones talking about how big of an upset oklahoma was. the polls had hillary the whole way. 3/2/2016 11:01:10 AM |
adultswim Suspended 8379 Posts user info edit post |
The person who made that map mixed up NC and SC 3/2/2016 11:21:50 AM |
skywalkr All American 6788 Posts user info edit post |
^^ not really
538 had it as basically a toss up 3/2/2016 11:36:51 AM |
synapse play so hard 60939 Posts user info edit post |
^ as did RCP 3/2/2016 11:58:20 AM |
adultswim Suspended 8379 Posts user info edit post |
Before Super Tuesday RCP averages were:
+34 MN +28 CO +2 OK +7 MA
Pretty huge gains overall. Fuck the south though. 3/2/2016 12:00:58 PM |
UJustWait84 All American 25821 Posts user info edit post |
No. He was supposed to prove how much 'momentum' he had by winning MA. Losing was definitely an upset. He essentially got crushed in the South. His best win to date is MN... 3/2/2016 12:04:42 PM |
moron All American 34142 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "The Labor Department is expected to report Friday that the U.S. economy added 190,000 net new jobs last month. That would be an improvement over a disappointing 151,000 job gains in January.
The unemployment rate is expected to hold steady at 4.9%, matching an eight-year low. Wage gains are forecast to continue" |
http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-jobs-adp-20160302-story.html
Lets not forget that under Obama the economy has come back from a recession to outpace other countries, and has thrived. Hopefully the democrats figure out a good way to convey this to Trump supporters.
Hillary should be saying "we solved the recession, we will solve wages/inequality/whatever".3/2/2016 1:25:40 PM |
goalielax All American 11252 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Pretty huge gains overall." |
Bernie was +49 delegates to Clinton in the states he won
Clinton was +214 delegates in the states she won.
yooge gains. yooge.3/2/2016 1:55:04 PM |
dtownral Suspended 26632 Posts user info edit post |
is it yooooouge, yooooge, or youuuuuuuge?
[Edited on March 2, 2016 at 2:12 PM. Reason : someone check r/the_donald] 3/2/2016 2:10:49 PM |
Flyin Ryan All American 8224 Posts user info edit post |
^^^ if the economy was thriving, we wouldn't be at ZIRP for 7 years now and considering negative interest rates, read the world financial news a bit, things have gone pretty bad in early 2016...unless you're a gold investor, up 17%
Good run for Sanders, but you're not winning a Democratic National primary without black support at this point. (Alabama was 90 to 5.)
[Edited on March 2, 2016 at 6:04 PM. Reason : .] 3/2/2016 5:57:38 PM |
UJustWait84 All American 25821 Posts user info edit post |
The thing about the economy is that it could ALWAYS do better. Let's not kid ourselves and act like we're in as rough of a patch as 2009. 3/2/2016 6:17:13 PM |
The E Man Suspended 15268 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Bernie was +49 delegates to Clinton in the states he won
Clinton was +214 delegates in the states she won." |
A moderate crushed a progressive in conservative places but lost slightly to him in liberal places. Makes sense to me.
Clinton can't win alabama, sc, tennesee in a general election so its a pointless statistic.3/2/2016 7:45:37 PM |
bdmazur ?? ????? ?? 14957 Posts user info edit post |
Clinton was up 60 points a year ago nationally, up 30 6 months ago, and now she's down to 9.
Quote : | "Good run for Sanders, but you're not winning a Democratic National primary without black support at this point. (Alabama was 90 to 5.)" |
He's losing the black vote by a ridiculous margin in the south. But he's also losing those states from the white voters, too. The only places we're hearing about black voters flocking to Clinton in such huge waves are in SEC states. Let's stop pretending that black voters all think alike.3/3/2016 12:12:50 AM |
Pupils DiL8t All American 4960 Posts user info edit post |
One of the things that confounds me is that the civil rights activist, John Lewis, stated that he never saw Bernie Sanders during the civil rights movement but that he saw Bill and Hillary Clinton during the civil rights movement; however, I read that Hillary Clinton campaigned for Barry Goldwater, who opposed the Civil Rights Act.
Can anyone tell me whether my facts are incorrect with regard to this subject? 3/3/2016 10:18:50 PM |
The E Man Suspended 15268 Posts user info edit post |
Hillary stands for everything that is right according to what most people believe right now. 3/3/2016 10:34:08 PM |
goalielax All American 11252 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Clinton can't win alabama, sc, tennesee in a general election so its a pointless statistic." |
lol no it's not. they still matter in determining the primaries3/4/2016 9:57:34 AM |
moron All American 34142 Posts user info edit post |
http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/republican-voters-kind-of-hate-all-their-choices/?ex_cid=538twitter
All the democrat nominee has to do it seems is just not screw up... GOP is in a bad spot, but this doesn't mean Hillary or Bernie will capitalize on this. 3/4/2016 2:52:15 PM |
The E Man Suspended 15268 Posts user info edit post |
^^That was in response to "Hillary killed him in the south by so much that he should drop out" 3/5/2016 3:10:48 PM |
bdmazur ?? ????? ?? 14957 Posts user info edit post |
This is the best debate they've had so far 3/6/2016 8:34:52 PM |
The E Man Suspended 15268 Posts user info edit post |
i thought having the shot girl's dad ask a question was bad taste. 3/6/2016 8:50:23 PM |
The E Man Suspended 15268 Posts user info edit post |
terrible premise. theres no way around that question. either you support the 2nd ammendment or you don't and as long as SOME people can buy guns, you are going to have shootings. period. Of course hillary can BS her way through to sound good. 3/6/2016 8:52:33 PM |
bbehe Burn it all down. 18402 Posts user info edit post |
Clinton's dodges were so much more evident this debate. 3/6/2016 10:01:51 PM |
The E Man Suspended 15268 Posts user info edit post |
she's too good at it though. maybe the best ever. 3/6/2016 10:14:44 PM |
moron All American 34142 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "If Sanders' only race consciousness is associating Blackness with poverty/ghettos and whiteness with affluence/suburbs, that's a blind spot." |
3/6/2016 11:51:12 PM |
bdmazur ?? ????? ?? 14957 Posts user info edit post |
Map based on polling of Sanders vs Trump:
If this is the matchup, then Bernie would just need to win one of Ohio, Pennsylvania, NC, or Florida. Hillary has a few more states to swing:
Interesting that some traditionally red states are in play for her, but will be tough without having Minnesota and Michigan locked in.
[Edited on March 7, 2016 at 12:13 AM. Reason : -]3/7/2016 12:10:26 AM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148441 Posts user info edit post |
Wonder how much that could change depending on who the VP nominees are 3/7/2016 12:59:35 AM |
dtownral Suspended 26632 Posts user info edit post |
Sanders' poor white people comment was pretty bad 3/7/2016 7:37:40 AM |
moron All American 34142 Posts user info edit post |
^ yeah I agree. That whole response was awkward... I bet killer mike face palmed. 3/7/2016 10:19:07 AM |
HCH All American 3895 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "ll the democrat nominee has to do it seems is just not screw up." |
Like, be convicted of sending classified emails across an unprotected server?3/7/2016 11:19:42 AM |
adultswim Suspended 8379 Posts user info edit post |
sooo can we talk about hillary's stance on abortion? she just said on fox news that she's for a constitutional amendment banning late term abortions. and PP endorsed her over sanders? 3/7/2016 7:39:18 PM |
moron All American 34142 Posts user info edit post |
^ pandering... That would never happen, and late term abortion is already illegal. 3/7/2016 8:08:27 PM |
adultswim Suspended 8379 Posts user info edit post |
it's not pandering. she's been for it for a long time, just re-stated.
it varies from state to state. she is for a constitutional amendment.
[Edited on March 7, 2016 at 8:12 PM. Reason : .] 3/7/2016 8:10:03 PM |
adultswim Suspended 8379 Posts user info edit post |
Btw Planned Parenthood is against 20 week band. Great endorsement!
http://www.plannedparenthoodaction.org/issues/abortion/20-week-bans/
[Edited on March 7, 2016 at 9:02 PM. Reason : .] 3/7/2016 8:56:55 PM |
bdmazur ?? ????? ?? 14957 Posts user info edit post |
I never understood pushes for the constitution to reflect homosexuality and abortions. Why do so many people care what other people do in privacy? 3/8/2016 1:05:44 AM |
aimorris All American 15213 Posts user info edit post |
Jesus I think 3/8/2016 7:57:53 AM |