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thats your closest chance.

hop a flight to philly on southwest for $90 round trip then take the train to 30th street station, then the AC connector train, the jitney when you hit town.

all told if you plan right and dont miss a train, you could do it in 3-4 hours.


for another few hours longer than the ac drive you could just go to tunica or biloxi, but who woudl want to do that?

10/3/2006 8:39:14 AM

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Does anyone know where Click2Pay is based and if they offer any other legit payment services other than a middle man for gambling sites?

10/3/2006 10:50:48 AM

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Quote :
"Adam [SunPoker] <adam@sunpoker.com> to me
More options 12:50 pm (8 minutes ago)

Benjamin,

I'm not sure if you're aware of the recent developments in US online
gaming industry. In short, the US government has passed a law
that would prohibit banks, credit card companies, and other
financial institutions from processing gambling funds. This
controversial act was attached to a popular and completely
unrelated bill regarding Port Security (HR4954) early Saturday morning.
In this way, the act was passed because representatives were more
concerned with the major bill being made law and knew only in the
final minutes of the attachment.

It does NOT make it illegal for US citizens to play online, however
drastically affects your ability to enjoy your favorite poker and
casino games by making it difficult to send and receive your
deposits and winnings.

In light of these events, our software and ECash provider for
SunPoker.com, CryptoLogic and ECashDirect, have made the
decision to no longer service US registered accounts.

Consequently, all accounts with US based addresses will no longer
be able to play in the casino or poker room as of 12PM EST today
October 3rd.

Your account will however be available for you to log into and
request a withdrawal of your available balance.

All other accounts with non US based addresses will remain
unaffected.

Currently it is unclear as to the longer term ramifications of
these events at CryptoLogic and should the position change, we
will notify you.

In the meantime, we are hoping to make provisions so that you
are able to continue to enjoy playing and enjoy the same levels
of service and bonuses you've come to expect from us. We will
keep you updated.

Thanks for your time, and we do sincerely apologize for any
inconvenience this may cause you.

Regards

Adam
Poker Room Manager
http://www.sunpoker.com


PS: We continue to maintain that it is your individual right to be
allowed to play online responsibly in another form you see fit. We
therefore invite you to contact your Congressman (or woman) to
express your dismay as to not only the bill itself, but as to the
underhanded way in which it was passed.

"


it continues.

thats the rest of the cryptologic network.

my will hill and inter accounts had already been taken care of, now the whole network is non us players.



the sky is definately falling.

10/3/2006 1:01:07 PM

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What sites are cryptos? Just received my party poker cuttoff letter. Oh joy.

10/3/2006 1:34:25 PM

pilgrimshoes
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i havent gotten party's yet.

cryptos are like

will hill, interpoker, sun, carribean sun, 24h, top (i think) and a few others that have been non us only for a long time (like ladbrokes)

pretty big network, most of the sites offered monthly $100 or so bonuses.

interesting how i got that e-mail at 12:51ish and 1 was the cutoff.

imagine playing then just being like "wtf" hah

10/3/2006 1:40:32 PM

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So why are they cutting off US players if the only issue is us getting our money on there. Seems to me if we could get it on there legally, and its not illegal for us to play here, what do they care? Im assuming its like I posted in the other thread, and is just a short time precaution, but still.

I still like Full Tilts stand though how they don't plan on shutting us off.

[Edited on October 3, 2006 at 1:45 PM. Reason : .]

10/3/2006 1:43:58 PM

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Actually the party poker e-mail was for my affiliate account, not my poker account.

10/3/2006 1:46:19 PM

pilgrimshoes
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wait wait, you had rakeback on party?

all mine got closed down when the excommunication occured

10/3/2006 1:49:36 PM

David0603
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yes

excommunication?

10/3/2006 1:51:17 PM

pilgrimshoes
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when they broke off the skins, i lost 2 rakebacks for party.

damn, i was under the impression that finding party rakeback account was like finding a unicorn.

i only searched for a short time however

10/3/2006 1:54:11 PM

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Yeah, I only did it for a short time too. It was a bitch because they locked my account after 3 months without a new signup. I got a new sign up after I moved and cashed the fuck out and haven't checked it since.

10/3/2006 2:00:35 PM

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Dont ever try and grind out a bonus on Mansion. I usually play limit online, and there are exactly EIGHT people in the entire world playing any level of limit right now. There is no traffic at all on that site.

10/5/2006 5:11:42 PM

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Haha. Why are you still playing there after you got the savvy bonus? NL is a little better, but I agree they need more traffic.

10/5/2006 5:23:54 PM

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Im not, I couldn't even get a game going at the limits I wanted lol. Im just doing some sportebetting while I am waiting on them to confirm the copy of my ID I sent them so I can cash out. Did you try Nine Poker yet? I talked to a guy on the phone from there, and he said they aren't shutting down or anything to US players, so its safe to play.

10/5/2006 6:28:03 PM

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Im playing the $5r on stars right now and just had this hand...pretty funny

PokerStars Game #6531169085: Tournament #32891787, $5.00+$0.50 Hold'em No Limit - Level I (10/20) - 2006/10/05 - 18:34:12 (ET)
Table '32891787 53' 9-max Seat #6 is the button
Seat 1: The Hish 24 (3640 in chips)
Seat 2: tonyolson123 (2410 in chips)
Seat 3: AbOvEevry1 (3060 in chips)
Seat 4: alfreado (1430 in chips)
Seat 5: cozumel82 (2970 in chips)
Seat 6: MastaMuShu (6020 in chips)
Seat 7: Al Carmo (1480 in chips) is sitting out
Seat 8: Elgkadaver (3010 in chips)
Seat 9: HarryHaddock (1480 in chips)
Al Carmo: posts small blind 10
Elgkadaver: posts big blind 20
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to The Hish 24 [9c 9s]
HarryHaddock: folds
The Hish 24: raises 60 to 80
tonyolson123: raises 2330 to 2410 and is all-in
AbOvEevry1: folds
alfreado: folds
cozumel82: folds
MastaMuShu: folds
Al Carmo: folds
Elgkadaver: folds
The Hish 24: calls 2330
*** FLOP *** [9d Ah 9h]
*** TURN *** [9d Ah 9h] [4s]
tonyolson123 said, "nh"
*** RIVER *** [9d Ah 9h 4s] [8c]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
The Hish 24: shows [9c 9s] (four of a kind, Nines)
tonyolson123: shows [6s 3s] (a pair of Nines)
The Hish 24 collected 4850 from pot
tonyolson123 re-buys and receives 1500 chips for $5.00
cozumel82 said, "oops"
tonyolson123 re-buys and receives 1500 chips for $5.00
cozumel82 said, "nh"
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 4850 | Rake 0
Board [9d Ah 9h 4s 8c]
Seat 1: The Hish 24 showed [9c 9s] and won (4850) with four of a kind, Nines
Seat 2: tonyolson123 showed [6s 3s] and lost with a pair of Nines
Seat 3: AbOvEevry1 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: alfreado folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: cozumel82 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: MastaMuShu (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: Al Carmo (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 8: Elgkadaver (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 9: HarryHaddock folded before Flop (didn't bet)

10/5/2006 6:36:49 PM

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dude 63s is the nuts during the rebuy period




Here's a hand from a little while ago. I virtually NEVER slow play any more, I'm raising a lot of hands preflop and continuation betting most flops. Usually when I flop a set after I raised preflop I will just bet out because either there's some sort of draw on the board or my image is total crap and people are starting to play back at me. With this hand I hadn't been at the table very long and the flop had no real draws, so I decided it was an okay time to slowplay.


Hand 1095769777, Started at 10/5/2006 6:20 PM
Table 'Schenectady': $2-$2 No Limit HE (Real)
Seat 0: dmk133 ($193.20 in chips) (on the button)
Seat 1: lperez2 ($192.70 in chips)
Seat 2: QSpoon ($264.60 in chips)
Seat 3: Chiens ($235 in chips)
Seat 4: airfresh ($189.20 in chips)
Seat 5: koki71x ($38 in chips)
Seat 6: slipnuts ($327.40 in chips)
Seat 7: Hacko ($50.80 in chips)
Seat 8: wenton1 ($360.65 in chips)
Seat 9: maxpower19 ($252 in chips)
*** Blind Bet Round *** :
Dealt to slipnuts: Qd
Dealt to slipnuts: Qh
lperez2 : Post Blind ($1)
QSpoon : Post Blind ($2)
*** Pre-Flop *** :
Chiens : Fold
airfresh : Fold
koki71x : Fold
slipnuts : Bet ($7)
Hacko : Fold
wenton1 : Fold
maxpower19 : Fold
dmk133 : Fold
lperez2 : Call ($6)
QSpoon : Call ($5)
*** Flop *** : Qs 7c 4d
lperez2 : Check
QSpoon : Check
slipnuts : Check
*** Turn *** : [ Qs 7c 4d ] 9s
lperez2 : Bet ($10)
QSpoon : Call ($10)
slipnuts : Raise ($35)
lperez2 : Call ($25)
QSpoon : Call ($25)
*** River *** : [ Qs 7c 4d 9s ] 10s
lperez2 : Check
QSpoon : Check
slipnuts : Check
*** SUMMARY ***
Pot: $123 | Rake: $3
Board: [ Qs 7c 4d 9s 10s Qs 7c 4d 9s 10s ]
dmk133 lost $0
lperez2 lost $42 Shows [ Ad As ] (a pair of Aces)
QSpoon bet $42, collected $123, net $81 Shows [ Ks Js ] (a straight flush, Kings high)
Chiens lost $0
airfresh lost $0
koki71x lost $0
slipnuts lost $42
Hacko lost $0
wenton1 lost $0
maxpower19 lost $0



UGH

Not only did my slowplay allow the running draw to get there, but I had AA trying to check raise me on the flop! At least I played it well on the turn and river. I managed to get some money in against 13 outs, then I didn't pay it off when it hit(luckily it wasn't one of the other 10's or an A). But still, if I just do my normal continuation bet on the flop I stack AA and the draw is long gone.




[Edited on October 5, 2006 at 7:20 PM. Reason : .]

10/5/2006 7:19:40 PM

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"QSpoon : Check"


on the river.


ellll

ohh

elll


justin, if someone is knowing for sure that youre goingt o bet that river enough to try and c/r next to last to act, you sure have changed your game up drastically.

i like it.



borgata tonight, if the rains go away.

anyone have eddie's number, i think hes up here

10/6/2006 9:44:29 AM

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Okay so im at the game last night and its just getting underway when my buddy calls.

He won a tourney at bellagio last night. $88,000.

and a big screen tv or something... i couldnt hear very well it was so loud but i think it was a TV.


I know i heard the $88,000 part right though.


Fucking bastard.

10/6/2006 10:33:05 AM

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party time

10/6/2006 10:37:50 AM

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I have definately changed my game up. It's all about creating a laggy image while actually playing really tight when it comes to big pots. Lots of PFRing and c-betting. Something like vip-24/pfr-14/agg-5.

The old nitty me was more like 14/1/2

10/6/2006 4:41:44 PM

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"vip-24/pfr-14/agg-5.
"


can you translate?

10/6/2006 5:04:48 PM

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I'm voluntarily putting money in the pot 24% of the hands, preflop raising 14% of my hands, and the last one is just an aggression factor. I'm not sure exactly how it's calculated, but it's a poker tracker thing dealing with how often I'm betting/raising as opposed to calling. 5 is pretty damn high for a winning player, 2 is not actually extremely low seeing as how the fishies/calling stations are <1.


I've made serious changes in my game in recent months, as illustrated by these numbers. Basically changing from a set miner to a "laggy"(loose aggressive) player. I put that in quotes because I'm not actually as loose at people at the table believe me to be. Watching me fire big bets into most every flop I see and raising a couple times most orbits has a favorable psychological effect on my opponents. Basically, I get paid when I make big hands. And when I don't have anything I just muscle people out of pots where they don't have anything either.

10/6/2006 5:36:27 PM

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Like Doyle says, "You gotta give action to get action."

10/6/2006 5:43:17 PM

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oh man oh man

what a great start to the weekend,

a $1400 profit session in a split pot 10/20 game.

destroyed the 10/20 two way lo8/7cs8 half kill game today.

nothing like walking in with 25 big bets and walking out with near 100.

bongggg


(and of course, this profit includes blowing off $300 at a craps table, and dropping $200 in a lhe game while waiting on the two way.)

eheheh

i wish so much that they had middle limit lo8 somewhere on the eastern seaboard. its always either 10/20 then nothing up to 80/160 or higher.

tonight, there was the 10/20 two way, then the next up was 100/200.

i mean, come on

10/7/2006 4:48:23 AM

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what a donk





10/7/2006 5:51:39 AM

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"blowing off $300 at a craps table"


ultra donk

10/7/2006 11:24:07 AM

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Quote :
"craps is my kryptonite."

10/7/2006 1:13:43 PM

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^eheheh,

and true to form, im a moron again. this was even at a $5 min bet table too.....


now the question remains,

go back today, or be happy with the weekend.

barring something happening while im in the shower, here we go.


btw,

while riding the escalator up from the fat burger last night at like 345 am, some broad riding down started puking EVERYWHERE.

it was horrid

10/7/2006 1:53:32 PM

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pilgrim, i want to go to ac. i will schedule it when you are there, you can "rent"me when you go outand I will keep you away from the craps tables for $150 a day. and I will play the lower limit tables when you are playing. it is win-win!

10/7/2006 3:29:43 PM

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I found what sounds to be a pretty sweet 2-4 plo8 game recently, but I don't really know shit about the game itself. All I know is I'm not going to be one of those retards that switches from plo to plo8 and loses my ass. Any suggestions or guides on the web that could help me out? Thanks.

10/7/2006 3:42:24 PM

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Just had my first 4-digit cash in a tourney. Go me.

[Edited on October 7, 2006 at 6:58 PM. Reason : doh!]

10/7/2006 6:58:26 PM

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Congrats. I've never done that in an mtt but I have had a couple 4 digits days on the cash tables.

10/7/2006 7:30:08 PM

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Thanks, Noid

10/7/2006 7:39:34 PM

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It's stellar reads like this that keep the money rolling in


Game #1756873129 - (blinds $1/$2) No Limit Texas Hold'em - 2006/10/07-18:27:15.8 (CST)
Table "Tanaga" (real money) -- Seat 7 is the button
Seat 1: viewsonic222 ($148.00 in chips)
Seat 2: Mindgrinder ($131.45 in chips)
Seat 3: Picnpockets ($175.50 in chips)
Seat 4: mbeck23 ($200.00 in chips)
Seat 5: chesthawk ($398.55 in chips)
Seat 6: slipnuts ($188.00 in chips)
Seat 7: threeon3 ($159.45 in chips)
Seat 8: Zug Zug ($196.05 in chips)
Seat 9: ryry54 ($200.70 in chips)
Seat 10: will01 ($127.00 in chips)
Zug Zug : Post Small Blind ($1)
ryry54 : Post Big Blind ($2)
mbeck23 : Post ($2)
Dealing...
Dealt to slipnuts [ As ]
Dealt to slipnuts [ Th ]
will01 : Call ($2)
viewsonic222: Fold
Mindgrinder: Fold
Picnpockets: Fold
mbeck23 : Check
chesthawk: Fold
slipnuts: Raise ($11)
threeon3: Fold
Zug Zug : Fold
ryry54 : Fold
will01 : Call ($9)
mbeck23 : Fold
*** FLOP *** : [ Js 6h 4s ]
will01 : Check
slipnuts: Bet ($16)
will01 : Raise ($32)
slipnuts: Raise ($161)
will01 : Call All-in ($84)
*** TURN *** : [ Js 6h 4s ] [ 7s ]
*** RIVER *** : [ Js 6h 4s 7s ] [ 3s ]
*** SUMMARY ***
Pot: $256 | Rake: $3
Board: [ Js 6h 4s 7s 3s ]
viewsonic222 didn't bet (folded)
Mindgrinder didn't bet (folded)
Picnpockets didn't bet (folded)
mbeck23 lost $2 (folded)
chesthawk didn't bet (folded)
slipnuts bet $188, collected $317, net +$129 (showed hand) [ As Th ] (a flush, ace high)
threeon3 didn't bet (folded)
Zug Zug lost $1 (folded)
ryry54 lost $2 (folded)
will01 lost $127 (showed hand) [ Kc Ks ] (a flush, king high)




I felt like I was getting pushed around too much after getting yet another C-bet min raised, so I decided to take a stand~~~

10/7/2006 10:18:14 PM

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AHAHAHAHA

10/8/2006 2:15:10 AM

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Yeah we went a wee bit tilto there for a moment this evening. After losing a good chunk of change(despite the suckout I posted) and recomposing myself I fired up some .5/1 tables to win some of it back when this hand happens:


Game #1757024567 - (blinds $0.50/$1) No Limit Texas Hold'em - 2006/10/07-19:47:55.7 (CST)
Table "Rakahanga" (real money) -- Seat 1 is the button
Seat 1: hamhank ($33.60 in chips)
Seat 2: Silver1 ($95.45 in chips)
Seat 3: slipnuts ($165.35 in chips)
Seat 4: gary the gun ($38.35 in chips)
Seat 5: D Sandman ($99.00 in chips)
Seat 6: pacers3107 ($207.10 in chips)
Seat 7: Quiz Kid ($58.00 in chips)
Seat 8: gtojudge69 ($34.50 in chips)
Seat 9: Exec Player ($58.05 in chips)
Seat 10: kev11225 ($136.10 in chips)
Silver1 : Post Small Blind ($0.50)
slipnuts: Post Big Blind ($1)
Dealing...
Dealt to slipnuts [ Kd ]
Dealt to slipnuts [ As ]
gary the gun: Fold
D Sandman: Timed out
D Sandman: Fold
pacers3107: Fold
Quiz Kid: Fold
gtojudge69: Fold
Exec Player: Fold
kev11225: Call ($1)
hamhank : Fold
Silver1 : Fold
slipnuts: Raise ($4)
kev11225: Call ($4)
*** FLOP *** : [ 9s Ks Th ]
slipnuts: Bet ($7)
kev11225: Raise ($14)
slipnuts: Raise ($24)
kev11225: Call ($17)
*** TURN *** : [ 9s Ks Th ] [ Ts ]
slipnuts: Bet ($41)
kev11225: Raise ($100.10)
slipnuts: Call ($59.10)
*** RIVER *** : [ 9s Ks Th Ts ] [ Js ]
*** SUMMARY ***
Pot: $269.70 | Rake: $3
Board: [ 9s Ks Th Ts Js ]
hamhank didn't bet (folded)
Silver1 lost $0.50 (folded)
slipnuts bet $136.10, collected $269.70, net +$133.60 (showed hand) [ Kd As ] (a flush, ace
high)
gary the gun didn't bet (folded)
D Sandman didn't bet (folded)
pacers3107 didn't bet (folded)
Quiz Kid didn't bet (folded)
gtojudge69 didn't bet (folded)
Exec Player didn't bet (folded)
kev11225 lost $136.10 (showed hand) [ Ac Jh ] (two pair, jacks and tens)




Let's look at the anatomy of this bluff. The hand I posted earlier was pretty awful, but at least my bluff had a chance of working if he hadn't been trapping me with kings. This guy decides it's a good idea to not only call my three bet on the flop with nothing, but to basically minraise me with his all-in on the turn after I've completely commited to myself to the pot(and I've shown strength at every oppurtunity this hand). Nice bluff, guy.

After a nice razz session a bit ago I'm basically even for the day.

10/8/2006 2:57:27 AM

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have got some great 20/40 hands to post, was in the most excellent game this morning.

i think forkgirl is jealous of my baller as fuck skills.




there was a hand where i bluffed an azn out in limit, showing the ace high after the fold, only to get 2 fists pounds and a hand shake from 3 other azns.

and you know that the first goal of poker is to do something to make an azn proud.

(btw, G me up again last night borgata, kthnx)

[Edited on October 8, 2006 at 1:10 PM. Reason : e]

10/8/2006 1:08:00 PM

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gg ben

10/8/2006 1:55:58 PM

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i swear man, the 10 game has gotten so bad recently

i walk in, and its a rock garden filled with people who are there multiple times per week.

if i go and recognize over half of ALL the tables, i dont even want to play.

for some reason, the 20 game has been really good to me, i wish i was properly rolled for it, and not be just taking shots... id love to play that full time.

get more hardcore gamblers in there, and wacky assed asians. its a brutal game though, gets swingy.... really swingy

i played the 20/40 today for 6 hours.

30 minutes in - up 200
2 hours in - down 700
4:15 hrs in - up 900
4:45 hrs in - down 75 (the worst orbit of my life)
5 hours in - up 750 (best orbit of my life)





i had a strange situation today, where i had a big bet to call on what i thought was only a gutshot. oddly enough, i closed the action and was getting 21:1 to call off.

weird.

turns out both my two overs were totally live and the gutter was nut. so i was getting 21:1 to call off with 7 outs, or laying 6.7:1 while pulling massive +ev with no pair, no made hand after the turn.

but due to the action i could only think my nut straight draw was live, still affording a 21:1 pay for about an 11.5:1

not very common

10/8/2006 4:16:05 PM

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No advice from anyone???

10/8/2006 4:19:50 PM

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"I found what sounds to be a pretty sweet 2-4 plo8 game recently, but I don't really know shit about the game itself. All I know is I'm not going to be one of those retards that switches from plo to plo8 and loses my ass. Any suggestions or guides on the web that could help me out? Thanks.

"


http://www.o8poker.com

may seem a bit basic, but its good.

[Edited on October 8, 2006 at 4:28 PM. Reason : e]

10/8/2006 4:28:40 PM

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I'm never quite sure how to play it when I flop the nut low draw and someone bets pot on the flop, especially when I'm 90% sure this will happen again on the turn unless my low hits. Most of the time there were 1-2 other people still in the hand. Any suggestions?

10/8/2006 6:36:56 PM

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drawing for only half the pot is bad.

with no appreciable high prospects, you shouldnt do so.

10/9/2006 7:33:39 AM

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Ok, so if that's the case, are there any hands I should call preflop that don't have low potential?

10/9/2006 7:48:51 AM

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four broadway cards preferably with a suited ace.


thats about it

10/9/2006 7:50:09 AM

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some hand stories from this weekend

note: as you move up in limits, nut peddling and only playing big hands is a good way to get destroyed. knowing when to call off thin, overcall, or identifying situations to push bets with marginal (seeming) holdings is very necessary. situational, representative, and even bluff bets are crucial in winning pots. opening up preflop and getting ultra aggro with seemingly quasi strong hands also creates a great image that you are trying to protect. so in accordance to all of this, there are situations that may come up in these hand histories that may seem a bit..... unconventional, but i assure you, i have no qualms with them. i miss bets often however, and thats something im working on. this comes from still being a bit too timid with non monsters that i think are good. Note that many of these things can only be applied to players you must identify. you cannot make some bets against someone likely to call you down with a middling pair as opposed to someone who you know you can fold with representative bets.


I love love love the first hand:

i had just gotten to the table a few orbits before, it's like 5 am, and the game is short handed ( )

New player comes in, very solid young asian guy whom ive played with before. Really aggressive, capable of making some amazing plays, and his preflop raising range is....... two cards. however, he has the capability to lay down hands that he has been leading at when he feels he is behind. we have a history however, of me constantly sucking out on him.... this session continued the trend.

anyways,

BB with Ad 8h.

Nigerian suckout artist folds, Asian kid mentioned above raises to $40. Wacky nutjob wide open ultra loose asian calls (who is running good and has stacked up to about 4k), Trinidadian maniacally agrro but yet solid player folds, the best player at the table folds, antoehr azn from the sb folds, i call.

flop: Kh Qh Th

hmmmm....check

azn bets, wacky folds (which, was about the only time during the whole day)

we call.

turn: Ts

we sit there and think about it, contemplating a bet (when really im thinking, theres only one way i can win this pot....)

and decide to check/raise.............


thoughts?

10/9/2006 9:37:18 AM

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I don't necessarily dislike the play. You're up against a guy who will fold if he's behind and a wacky loose player. I don't think you have much to worry about from the wacky loose, and this CR gets you a great look at the asian you've played with before. If he RR, then you can let it go, as you're probably going to go down in flames (I don't think your pot odds are HUGE, but you might consider it if you think he may be bluffing).

I like the CR here because you're giving yourself a chance to win the pot here for about the same cost as calling him down to the river. If he raises you, you're probably beat and can lay down, and if you've scared him, you may win the pot b/c they both fold or you can check-check the river if the crazy wacky loose calls.

10/9/2006 10:15:22 AM

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forgot to mention that was 20/40 LIMIT holdem.

10/9/2006 10:25:37 AM

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I picked up on it from the bet you mentioned plus the fact that you play mostly limit and you didn't say anything about how much you considered check-raising, which would be essential if it was no limit.

What happened?

10/9/2006 10:32:43 AM

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He three bets quickly. oh shit, here we go..........

I grab a stack and 4 bet even quicker, cutting out the requisite 16 red $5 chips for the last 2 bets into $20 stacks.

He goes into the tank.

After about a minute and a half of him thinking, he says "i guess im going to have to pay you off this time." then slowly calls.

What I took that to mean was him essentially saying

"i've only got a pair, and a good heart as a redraw, i dont have a ten, im not full yet but im crying out for a heart to come"

this was good news to me, so i smoke bet the river, and thankfully the 2c fell (the biggest brick of all time). he mucks.

i table the A8 while im dragging the pot and he stands up and walks off for a second shaking his head.

He folded AK (durrr).

wacky azn and another azn exend closed fists for pounds while they were yelling and laughing.

make an azn proud of a bluff, you're in for a great session.

10/9/2006 10:45:04 AM

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