My friend accidentally placed a burning hot frying pan on his iphone and shattered the screen.

it still works perfectly

2/8/2010 9:19:44 AM

This is kinda a funny story...

When I was skiing last week at Jackson Hole, WY, I was on an intermediate, and noticed something black and rectagular on the slope traveling past me faster than I was going. I caught up to it, and recognized it was my iphone that came out of my pocket that had been unzipped accidentally. It went a long way down the hill. I cant believe how lucky I am that it came out on a groomed surface, and made it down the hill faster so that I actually could retrieve it.

At first, the speaker didnt work, but after it dried out, everything was fine...

[Edited on February 8, 2010 at 10:50 AM. Reason : .]

2/8/2010 10:49:13 AM

^hahahahaha....thats hilarious and super lucky. I'm always paranoid about the same thing but I keep my phone in a zipper pocket so its sort of safe lol.

2/8/2010 12:13:53 PM

It was the damned photographers fault it came out. We got off the lift and there was a photographer giving group shots. My lift ticket was attached to the pocket that my iphone was in. He unzipped the pocket to stuff in the lift ticket, and I forgot to zip it back up.

It took until that night for the iphone to function again completely. I was pretty pissed until that point.

2/8/2010 3:55:50 PM

Dropping my iphone is always a huge adrenaline rush because its the most expensive thing I am carrying most of the time.

2/9/2010 3:12:23 AM

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"At first, the speaker didnt work, but after it dried out, everything was fine..."

at first it was like , but then

btw, double the price, half the features, thrice the marketing: the iPhone.

2/9/2010 10:11:15 AM

What the fuck is it double the price of?

2/9/2010 10:53:07 AM

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"btw, double the price, half the features, thrice the marketing: the iPhone."

I thought it was 7 times the marketing? Also as ^ said...double the price and half the features of what?

/trollfood

2/9/2010 10:54:10 AM

This is retarded:


Apple Begins Banning iPhone Hackers From iTunes
http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=17693

2/16/2010 10:45:24 AM

Whys that retarded? A company is banning people who hack their product...its been done before. If you are going to hack you are going to have to accept some risks.

2/16/2010 5:28:55 PM

Because of the two banned people, Apple hasn't really proven that one of them did anything wrong.

They can prove he bragged about being able to do something, but if you banned everyone from iTunes who had bragged on the internet, you'd have a userbase of 5 people.

There's also the question of how they could justify denying someone access to content they've purchased through iTunes because of what he did with his iPhone.

2/16/2010 6:00:11 PM

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" There's also the question of how they could justify denying someone access to content they've purchased through iTunes because of what he did with his iPhone."

When you jailbreak an iPhone it allows you to load pirated content (apps etc)
When you jailbreak an Xbox it allows you to play pirated games

Both get you banned from their marketplaces.

I see nothing wrong with this.

2/16/2010 6:46:04 PM

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"When you jailbreak an iPhone it allows you to load pirated content (apps etc) When you jailbreak an Xbox it allows you to play pirated games Both get you banned from their marketplaces."

Not exactly. For the latest 360 ban, it was only the consoles that were banned, not the accounts. If you get a new 360, you can recover your gamertag. What Apple is doing is the exact opposite -- they're banning the account, but seemingly not the hardware.

2/16/2010 6:55:49 PM

does not sound like a threat to jailbreakers

2/16/2010 8:25:28 PM

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"Not exactly. For the latest 360 ban, it was only the consoles that were banned, not the accounts. If you get a new 360, you can recover your gamertag. What Apple is doing is the exact opposite -- they're banning the account, but seemingly not the hardware."

that makes MORE sense to me. Ban the person doing the hacking not the device. Banning the device will just end up with a bunch of people who purchased 2nd hand phones baffled at why they can't purchase content online.

Banning the person just means that they can't keep buying new hardware and hacking it. If it's your nature to hack the device for pirated content then you'll Always hack your devices if given the chance.

2/16/2010 8:58:15 PM

There's the people who don't hack it for pirated material. I don't necessarily think they should be penalized.

2/16/2010 9:15:12 PM

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"There's the people who don't hack it for pirated material. I don't necessarily think they should be penalized."

its still hacking. This isn't an Apple vs. hacker argument at all...the point is regardless of who made the device they didn't intend for it to be hacked or they would have made it open source. So anyone that does hack it has no leg to stand on. Regardless if you think the device is crippled or not.

[Edited on February 16, 2010 at 9:46 PM. Reason : asdf]

2/16/2010 9:43:29 PM

That is definitely one of the dumber things I've seen you say. And the list of dumb things you've said is pretty extensive.

2/16/2010 9:52:42 PM

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"That is definitely one of the dumber things I've seen you say. And the list of dumb things you've said is pretty extensive."

Since you've hacked your phone, you don't get an opinion, move along.

Also, I like how you never bring anything to the table other than your usual peanut gallery and trolling.

[Edited on February 16, 2010 at 10:01 PM. Reason : .]

2/16/2010 9:59:27 PM

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"There's also the question of how they could justify denying someone access to content they've purchased through iTunes because of what he did with his iPhone."

AFAIK they still have access to the content they purchased, they just can't purchase more.

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"This isn't an Apple vs. hacker argument at all...the point is regardless of who made the device they didn't intend for it to be hacked or they would have made it open source. So anyone that does hack it has no leg to stand on. Regardless if you think the device is crippled or not."

However, once a company sells a device, they have no real grounds to deny them access to an unrelated object merely on the fact that they have modified their own device. Breaking compatibility with updates / denying warranty coverage and service, sure that's within scope, but saying that someone who unlocked their phone can't buy iTunes anymore doesn't make sense.

That being said, these aren't just random people who have unlocked their phones, they are in particular the people that are trying to distribute the capability to unlock the phones, denying them access to new updates and such does make some measure of sense. Overall though, this strikes me as cutting off one's nose to spite one's face.

2/16/2010 10:07:34 PM

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"However, once a company sells a device, they have no real grounds to deny them access to an unrelated object merely on the fact that they have modified their own device. Breaking compatibility with updates / denying warranty coverage and service, sure that's within scope, but saying that someone who unlocked their phone can't buy iTunes anymore doesn't make sense."

Thats one way for people who hack devices and DRM to download paid content, crack it, and seed it for others to download for free. Its just another step in trying to fight piracy.

2/16/2010 10:11:45 PM

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"Banning the person just means that they can't keep buying new hardware and hacking it. If it's your nature to hack the device for pirated content then you'll Always hack your devices if given the chance."

But you're not even banning the person -- you're banning the one e-mail address (and maybe the credit card) of the person. It's not stopping the hacking of that device at all.

Hell, I have multiple iTunes accounts. If one is banned, I'm out a grand total of like $6.

2/16/2010 10:16:01 PM

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"But you're not even banning the person -- you're banning the one e-mail address (and maybe the credit card) of the person. It's not stopping the hacking of that device at all. Hell, I have multiple iTunes accounts. If one is banned, I'm out a grand total of like $6."

If they detected your hardware is hacked and banned your account...do you think logging in with another account is going to prevent them from doing the exact same thing over again? Also, while YOU might miss out on $6 worth, someone else might be missing out on a whole lot more by just abandoning their banned account.

I don't know why anyone is advocating for hacking and gateways for piracy. If you want to do it, do it but behind closed doors. Don't try and make a case for it. Hell, I'm sure we've all done it/do it but that doesn't make it right or give us a leg to stand on in advocacy.

[Edited on February 16, 2010 at 10:20 PM. Reason : .]

2/16/2010 10:18:26 PM

Generally people aren't advocating "piracy" as much as they are advocating the right to do as they will with hardware they've purchased.

2/16/2010 10:29:29 PM

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"Generally people aren't advocating "piracy" as much as they are advocating the right to do as they will with hardware they've purchased."

And they make such devices/software...its called open-source.

2/16/2010 10:47:51 PM

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"Thats one way for people who hack devices and DRM to download paid content, crack it, and seed it for others to download for free. Its just another step in trying to fight piracy. "

Unlocking an iPhone != cracking iTunes DRM != distributing iTunes content

If they have some evidence that a person who committed the first action also committed the third, then by all means, lock their iTunes account. But in that instance it is because they violated the terms of their iTunes account, not because they unlocked their phone. I know this is hard for you to imagine but not everyone who unlocks their phone does it because they want to pirate iTunes. Sometimes it's because they just want to use the phone on a different carrier.

2/17/2010 12:49:13 AM

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"Unlocking an iPhone != cracking iTunes DRM != distributing iTunes content If they have some evidence that a person who committed the first action also committed the third, then by all means, lock their iTunes account. But in that instance it is because they violated the terms of their iTunes account, not because they unlocked their phone. I know this is hard for you to imagine but not everyone who unlocks their phone does it because they want to pirate iTunes. Sometimes it's because they just want to use the phone on a different carrier."

Its not hard for me to imagine at all. I understand that most people who jailbreak their iPhones aren't the ones cracking the DRM and seeding. Thats not the point. Its easier to just draw the line and say if you're on the wrong side you get banned. This benefits both carrier and Apple from a business point of you, most of you find that hard to believe.

Apple gets to enforce their closed system and carriers don't have to worry as much with users running apps that they've deemed 'negative' to the service provider. Of course people are still going to get by and do what they want anyway.

I'm not saying that this is right or wrong. But I can at least understand why a company would do such a thing. Like I said, like everyone else in this thread i've been on the other side of the grey line but that doesn't mean I'm/we're right in doing so. Do it at your own risk and get over it.

It's all business, its not open source.

2/17/2010 1:23:23 AM

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"Since you've hacked your phone, you don't get an opinion, move along."

Wow.

I mean just...wow.

I know I troll you a lot for the stupid things you say, but that has to be the absolute dumbest thing I've EVER read on this website.

Holy fuck.

I mean, go ahead and dismiss this post as random trolling, but after you go and say something that epically retarded, there's no point in even trying to reason. Your stupidity wins the day for sure.

2/17/2010 1:25:29 AM

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"Wow. I mean just...wow. I know I troll you a lot for the stupid things you say, but that has to be the absolute dumbest thing I've EVER read on this website. Holy fuck. I mean, go ahead and dismiss this post as random trolling, but after you go and say something that epically retarded, there's no point in even trying to reason. Your stupidity wins the day for sure."

Wow.

I mean just...wow

You are by far the dumbest fat fuck on this board.

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"Also, I like how you never bring anything to the table other than your usual peanut gallery and trolling."

[Edited on February 17, 2010 at 1:28 AM. Reason : again...]

2/17/2010 1:28:10 AM

Look, I can copy and paste things I've said before too:

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"I mean, go ahead and dismiss this post as random trolling, but after you go and say something that epically retarded, there's no point in even trying to reason. Your stupidity wins the day for sure."

You want an actual discussion? Go ahead and tell me why the $1000+ , I've spent on iPhones and Appstore content is no longer wanted by Apple just because I've chosen to use my phone to it's fullest potential.

2/17/2010 1:30:38 AM

/applause

2/17/2010 1:31:20 AM

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"You want an actual discussion? Go ahead and tell me why the $1000+ , I've spent on iPhones and Appstore content is no longer wanted by Apple just because I've chosen to use my phone to it's fullest potential."

You signed the EULA, you broke the EULA. They may still want you as a customer, but it's their decision to make if you break the agreement.

2/17/2010 1:46:05 AM

Technically speaking, of course Apple can do whatever they want to the "bad people". My point was that from a business standpoint, my money spends just as well as the people that are too scared by the big bad corporation to cross over to the dark side and jailbreak. And yes, I do spend plenty of money.

None of that explains why Gloveco seems to think that just because I decided to jailbreak, my opinion isn't worth as much as the next iPhone owner. Hell, I could make an argument that it's worth more, in a discussion such as this.

2/17/2010 2:01:29 AM

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"None of that explains why Gloveco seems to think that just because I decided to jailbreak, my opinion isn't worth as much as the next iPhone owner. Hell, I could make an argument that it's worth more, in a discussion such as this."

Because you're a troll. You come in here with your worthless peanut gallery bullshit and then want to be taken seriously? lol GTFO

2/17/2010 3:37:39 AM

Looking for a multi-use bluetooth headphone/mic for my iphone (workouts and casual use). I also want to use it for my macbook and PS3. This is the best option I have so far.
http://www.amazon.com/JayBird-JB-200-01-Bluetooth-Stereo-Headset/dp/B001DDPN9G

Anyone used Jaybird before? Any suggestions?

2/17/2010 7:02:08 AM

^^So first you say my opinion is worthless because I've hacked my phone, and now you're saying it's just because I call you out for stupid things you say? Backpedal much?

[Edited on February 17, 2010 at 8:07 AM. Reason : I've provided FAAAAAAAR more actual content to this thread then you ever have or ever will.]

2/17/2010 8:06:33 AM

^^for workouts motorola has a good one.. can't remember the model # tho

hold on lemme google

[Edited on February 17, 2010 at 8:15 AM. Reason : the S9 or the new version of it.. S9HD? something like that. ]

[Edited on February 17, 2010 at 8:16 AM. Reason : s9 works fine for me but supposedly the buttons fry easily due to sweat]

2/17/2010 8:15:08 AM

^yeah. The buttons on the Jaybird are smaller and rubberized than the motorola version and the fit is said to be better.

2/17/2010 8:28:32 AM

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"^^So first you say my opinion is worthless because I've hacked my phone, and now you're saying it's just because I call you out for stupid things you say? Backpedal much?"

nothing I said was stupid. That doesn't change the fact that you're a troll and 90% of your 'contribution' is trolling. That said, I understand you're autistic and you can't help it so I'll do my best to ignore your stupidity and trolling.

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"I've provided FAAAAAAAR more actual content to this thread then you ever have or ever will.]"

riiight. Like I said, 90% trolling. That's not exactly 'content'.

[Edited on February 17, 2010 at 10:51 AM. Reason : .]

2/17/2010 10:49:38 AM

Downloaded the Meebo app today. Its been out for a few weeks now. By far my favorite chat app.

Pros:
The UI is very clean and responsive
Its free
It supports landscape mode while still being FREE
Supports all the protocols Meebo.com supports.

Cons:
Can't customize the sound notifications

2/17/2010 12:28:21 PM

I'll have to check it out. Wonder if it's better than Beejive.

2/17/2010 3:03:38 PM

interesting...

http://gizmodo.com/5472010/windows-phone-7-interface-microsoft-has-out+appled-apple

2/17/2010 8:12:02 PM

I haven't been keeping up with the rumors but did Microsoft make an official announcement? I remember reading that there was some announcement coming soon. If thats really the MS Windows Phone thats a pretty sweet UI. I'm sure its even more slick with the animated transitions etc.

And I like what appears to be a larger screen than the iPhone...unless its just image distortion.

[Edited on February 17, 2010 at 8:19 PM. Reason : .]

2/17/2010 8:19:00 PM

Yeah dude, it was announced Monday, with more information coming in March. There's this thread on it ( /message_topic.aspx?topic=588278 ) and then a bunch of links on the page that gs7 linked to.

2/17/2010 8:27:37 PM

finally got a 3gs

damn 3g quit working. it just sits at the apple logo.. trying to do a restore now

2/19/2010 3:05:27 PM

Video chat and Front facing camera a possibility in future iProduct devices...?

http://idek.net/14xi

2/21/2010 1:30:30 PM

we've seen that before. i'll believe it when jobs says it

2/21/2010 1:57:25 PM

yeah that's one thing i was really hoping they would do on the 3gs..but who knows.

2/21/2010 2:34:09 PM

Also, I'm not sure why this would be in 3.2. Its obvious the iPad won't have a front facing camera because they just announced it and 3.2 will be on the first shipped iPads. If the next gen iPhone will have a front facing camera it will also probably have OS 4.0...so why include it in 3.2 when there is no hardware to support it?

2/21/2010 2:38:54 PM

double the price. half the features.

2/21/2010 3:58:51 PM