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"Trust me, I get on to UT fans that blame the evil Masonic refs when Florida beats them too"

ok i had to respond to this, obviously it is ridiculous to say that there is some huge ref conspiracy

but it is also ridiculous to ignore the fact that great players get the calls in college and nba. it isnt intentional, it is b/c basketball, especially nba bball, is a fast game and a great player is more likely to get the benefit of the doubt that he was fouled when it is close. it is a sort of unconscious bias.

2/18/2009 9:50:02 PM

Once again we are the worst 2nd half team in the conference we don't save anything for the 2nd half.

2/18/2009 9:50:11 PM

no i see what you're saying Twista


But in the heat of the game, bitching about individual calls is waranted. Its not like i'm gonna start a fuck the refs thread after the game. We lost because Fells didn't show up and McCauley played like a douche

[Edited on February 18, 2009 at 9:52 PM. Reason : ]

2/18/2009 9:51:30 PM

80 points

2/18/2009 9:52:03 PM

at least we covered the spread

2/18/2009 9:52:08 PM

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"horner outplayed mccauley, costner, and fells tonight."

b/c he made some wide open 3's?? sure he outplayed fells, who didnt but i think it is tough to take his garbage 3's and say he outplayed costner and mccauley. plus i'm pretty sure he played more minutes than costner

2/18/2009 9:52:15 PM

lost by 9. Not bad at all.

2/18/2009 9:52:25 PM

nvm

[Edited on February 18, 2009 at 9:53 PM. Reason : *sigh* roommates]

2/18/2009 9:52:37 PM

annnnd it only took until 8 seconds left for fells to finally make a 3

2/18/2009 9:52:47 PM

i like how we saved our dignity by losing less than 10, although it doesnt really reflect how we played the second half

2/18/2009 9:53:12 PM

Hansblow looks like the biggest asshole on the planet after the game he doesn't show good sportsmanship shaking players hands. I hope Henderson breaks his nose again.

2/18/2009 9:53:27 PM

offensive rebounding and defense cost us this game.

pussy ass upperclassmen can't rebound to save their lives

2/18/2009 9:53:36 PM

at least we didn't get blown out like duke did

2/18/2009 9:54:01 PM

ok, state beat the spread and they obviously showed again that they can hang around anyone. Sid, it's up to you to get these kids back together as a team and carry on the season.

2/18/2009 9:54:05 PM

i hate patting myself on the back for winning money when my team loses

still...WE ARE STILL AN IMPROVING TEAM

we have played better the last couple weeks and our first half tonight showed that...but ref calls, lack of depth, fatigue, etc got the best of us

UNC is a very good team, nobody expected a win, but that doesnt mean we cant still go 7-9 in conference and make noise in the acc tourney

2/18/2009 9:54:24 PM

tracy smith is going to be a beast for us


him and javi were the only ones to really show up

maybe costner is the first few minutes


Fells gets a big WTF, especially after he makes that 3 at the end when all the pressure was off

2/18/2009 9:54:49 PM

Quote :

"b/c he made some wide open 3's?? sure he outplayed fells, who didnt but i think it is tough to take his garbage 3's and say he outplayed costner and mccauley. plus i'm pretty sure he played more minutes than costner "

b/c he hustled all night. didn't shoot a terrible percentage. and isn't an emotionally unstable trainwreck of a player.

2/18/2009 9:55:27 PM

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"but ref calls, lack of depth, fatigue, etc got the best of us"

Laziness. Some of our best players just didn't come to play.

2/18/2009 9:55:43 PM

what did Costner do wrong on his foul at the beginning of the half? I mean, looking at it over and over I don't see anything wrong with it. If anything, it's a no-call situation.

2/18/2009 9:56:45 PM

Seriously. They had one TO the whole second half and shot over 70% I think. Holy shit balls.

If they play like that, no one can touch them. We weren't horrible. They were just way better.

2/18/2009 9:57:16 PM

If we get more depth at guard we could be a really good team down the road

2/18/2009 9:57:40 PM

this game was pretty much the first game re-played

2/18/2009 9:57:49 PM

I have never seen a team never miss in the 2nd half until tonight.

insanity

2/18/2009 9:57:52 PM

CAROLINA SCORED TOO MANY TOUCHDOWNS (end crappy reference from earlier)

2/18/2009 9:58:12 PM

our defense was horrible

2/18/2009 9:58:44 PM

they did hit a lot of shots


but they hit a lot of runout layups off of turnovers that should have been called fouls. 3 at least...two big ones.


whatever...I didnt expect to win. We played well for the most part but you can't have those mental lapses like we did early in both periods.

2/18/2009 9:59:38 PM

early in the first period was just swell.

2/18/2009 10:00:31 PM

Lawson really saved their asses tonight... that and us dribbling it off our feet or throwing it out of bounds for easy layups

2/18/2009 10:00:48 PM

the final score was closer than the 2nd half play indicated

however

we should come out of this with some positives...the first half was solid...not only were we down 3 at the half, but we showed we were capable of making a run at the end of the half...we were too mentally/physically drained to do that in the 2nd half, but CJ hit a few 3's, Javi continues to look solid as does Tracy, and even though Fells and Costner didn't really show up much in the 2nd half (Fells didnt even in the 1st), they are still capable players who can step up and will step up in future games

going into the game, i expected a UNC win, but a closer game than the 1st game...the score indicated that, but i think our team did too

We lost to a very good UNC team by single digits when our 2 most proven scorers either didnt show up until 2 minutes in the game, or only showed up big in the 1st half...dont give up dont ever give up you motherfuckers


[Edited on February 18, 2009 at 10:02 PM. Reason : ^lawson has been a beast the last couple weeks...scary stuff]

2/18/2009 10:01:53 PM

another plus, this is my most popular thread

2/18/2009 10:03:05 PM

neat how once we get some decent guard play, our big men go the crapper (well, just mccauley, so not really).

tracy smith is a beast.

javi was starting to look like atsur with that pick and roll. it's a shame he wasn't as aggressively looking for his shot in the second half. although unc did stick to him like glue. i hope javi's nice shooting is a sign of things to come and not just a fluke.

cj is going to be good. has a good shot.

this game just reinforces my opinion that we'll be in better shape next year. we won't miss mccauley. we won't miss fells. we'll miss costner if he leaves.

i look forward to the athleticism we're getting next year with brown and howell.

2/18/2009 10:03:28 PM

we need more athleticism and more toughness to get rebounds. It's sad that that is not coming from our seniors. New recruits need to surpass their predecessors

2/18/2009 10:03:40 PM

As mentioned by someone earlier in the thread, I'd like to see what Sid says to them in the locker room at the half...

Seems like we always come out slow and not expecting any intensity from the other team.

2/18/2009 10:03:50 PM

Tracy did really play a solid game today. Still needs to work on his free throws. He made some great shots though...it looks like he's getting better at dealing with some contact.

2/18/2009 10:06:09 PM

I will just never understand how Hansbrough leaning into the defender every single time is a foul, but oh well... refs didn't lose us this game. We played decent but our defense in the 2nd half is really pathetic.

And Degand looked like he was dribbling on ice the entire game... I don't understand how Mays can't even get on the floor when Javi's backup is playing like Degand was today.

2/18/2009 10:06:18 PM

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"we won't miss mccauley. we won't miss fells."

2/18/2009 10:07:35 PM

Man it is painful watching Degand play.

It's like whenever he dribbles he is bent over 90 degrees at the waist trying not to faceplant.

2/18/2009 10:08:03 PM

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""we won't miss mccauley. we won't miss fells.""

i disagre. McCauley is a great leader. Fells had an off night. I think he usually plays better against UNC

2/18/2009 10:08:31 PM

if you watched the last 3 or 4 games before tonight's game, you would never say we won't miss fells

and if you've watched mccauley during his time here you wouldnt say that about him either

but i understand, its right after a loss, emotions are high

2/18/2009 10:09:55 PM

McCauley is a terrible leader. We'll miss fells more than you think though.

2/18/2009 10:10:24 PM

what does mccauley lead?

he's a good leader at creating division amongst team members by uniting them against nba draft picks.

no way he's a good team leader though. he tries to. but he's terrible at it.

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"if you watched the last 3 or 4 games before tonight's game, you would never say we won't miss fells and if you've watched mccauley during his time here you wouldnt say that about him either but i understand, its right after a loss, emotions are high"

no, i've been saying that about mccauley on here all season. he does a good job of getting rebounds, but he also does a good job of losing them because he's out jumped by everyone on the opposing team.

with the fells thing, yeah, that's more of a emotional response to tonight's game. but i personally won't miss him that much, because i know what a waste of talent he is, for being such a mental case who can't figure out how to use it.

[Edited on February 18, 2009 at 10:13 PM. Reason : ]

2/18/2009 10:10:46 PM

McCauley has a decent inside low post game, and is a GREAT passer...he's not physically a beast but don't hate just cause he's been in a little slump...theres a reason Lowe is starting Fells and McCauley

2/18/2009 10:11:39 PM

I question the move to go zone in the second half. We turned a 3-point UNC halftime lead to a 12-point UNC lead in two minutes. Our players got deflated after that and the game was over. By the time we went back to man-to-man, they got hot and nothing could stop them.

I still like the way we played. A few more calls, a few less turnovers and this game would have gone down the wire. The team with the better PG play won.

2/18/2009 10:12:38 PM

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"is a GREAT passer"

he has been previously. right now all he seems to do is throw it to opposing players in the paint.

2/18/2009 10:13:11 PM

a little slump?

I havent seen this great passing ability for quite some time now......

He's been great at turning the ball over lately

2/18/2009 10:13:35 PM

wtf. ha. mccauley hasn't showed jack as far as being a good passer this season. his sophomore year was two years ago folks.

2/18/2009 10:14:03 PM

Some of those and 1s were bullshit

2/18/2009 10:16:44 PM

I was gonna pee in my pants if we won. Guess I still have fresh jeans.

2/18/2009 10:18:11 PM

he's got good vision, he hasn't lost that...he's 4th on the team in assists, and 2nd amongst non point guards

and yes i do think he has been in a "little slump"...even though he still LEADS THE TEAM IN REBOUNDS and is 2ND IN SCORING...he scored single digits the last 3 games (little slump) after scoring 25 points against Va Tech

but i understand the hate after a loss to UNC, but i'd prefer you hate on UNC

2/18/2009 10:18:15 PM

lets talk about tracy smith playing a good game some more.

2/18/2009 10:22:33 PM