bah I had a bad feeling about this series since miami acted like beating the celtics was like winning the title

5/15/2011 9:54:02 PM

more like a good feeling

also



also it looks like this Bulls/Mavs Finals is going to be a 3-point fest

5/15/2011 10:07:29 PM

you're a Billy Packer fan? i feel like you've posted that pic in multiple threads

btw, Billy Packer is a cunt. i worked at Harris Teeter at Ballantyne in HS, and he was a frequent customer. he was also a frequent piece of shit. he talked to me like i was incapable of putting his groceries into a god damn paper bag. and yes he used paper not plastic.

5/15/2011 10:11:23 PM

whenever i post that Billy Packer pic, its implied that underneath it is his famous quote "it's over" that he called in the UNC/Kansas game in the first half in 08(?)

ie i point out either when games are over before time runs out, or i troll the "Chapel Hill Loses!!1" thread and get people pissed off claiming I jinxed the UNC game by posting on the internet

5/15/2011 10:22:24 PM

i hear ya. i attented a Billy Packer "basketball skills instruction seminar" or something or other at my church in HS. he was yelling at 4th graders for not being able to get a shot high enough to hit the rim. he yelled like your dad would yell at you for backhanding your mother. not the best persona to host a "camp" for churchgoing peoples.

5/15/2011 10:27:47 PM

Holy shit Taj Gibson should have #1 and #2 plays of sportscenter tonight

5/15/2011 10:28:22 PM

ESPN will probably combine them

5/15/2011 10:29:06 PM

Gibson laid down the boom on that put-back. i'm honestly surprised the Heat were beaten so soundly.

5/15/2011 10:31:53 PM

I don't remember Deng having that heavy of an accent

5/15/2011 10:33:19 PM

Check it
You know how I be
Last week Kobe couldn’t do without me
You know how I be
Last week Kobe couldn’t do without me

I call my self big
But I am not as big as Biggie
I call my self big
Cuz I live next to Diddy
Excuse me, Diddy lives next to me
So in the hood dog I feel like B.I.G

Cuz if Biggie was still here
He would be right there
All star in a mansion somewhere
Chillin’
Sitting on a half of Billion
Me and and gusta *BEEP* that’s half a Billion

For real dog and now thats B.I.G.
Aint nobody in the world doing it bigger than me
That’s Like a white boy trying to be more nigger than me
That’s Like a homeless cat having more fingers than me
That’s Like Patrick Ewing having more rings than me
That’s like rapper having more cars and things than me

That’s like you saying to yourself that your better than me That’s like Kareem saying to himself he’s better than me Now stop, think about that It aint about that Its about B.I.G. AKA Big Shaq Now that’s the difference between 1st and last place Kobe tell me how my ass tastes?
Okay
Kobe tell me how my ass tastes?

I’m horse
Kobe ratted me out, that’s why I’m getting a divorce
He said Shaq gave the *beep* a mill
I don’t do that cuz my name is Shaquille

I love em
I don’t leave em
I got a vasectomy
Now I can’t breed em

5/15/2011 10:36:28 PM

Definitely surprised the Heat lost like that. Can't believe they went away from Bosh in the third quarter; Spoelstra is a bit of a retard sometimes. Bulls shot lights out from 3, and played ridiculously good defense.

Also at the end of the game - Miami's reserves vs Chicago's reserves was stark...it's like a YMCA rec league team vs a mediocre NBA starting five.

Miami needs HUGE games from at least 2 of Lebron, Wade, and Bosh to compete. Otherwise they don't belong on the same floor.

Edit: also didn't have the volume up - why was Magloire in during the fourth instead of Anthony?

[Edited on May 15, 2011 at 10:39 PM. Reason : edit]

5/15/2011 10:37:45 PM

face wins this page

5/15/2011 10:39:27 PM

Quote :

"I’m horse"

5/15/2011 10:40:27 PM

I really think Noah is my favorite player to watch in the league. He's just such an animal out there at making things happen.

Asik is probably the best bench shotblocker in the league now that Ibaka is starting and Chris Anderson is aging.

5/15/2011 10:49:23 PM

I would be so happy if CJL turns into the next Kevin Durant this season.

5/16/2011 12:09:14 AM

I'd be happy if CJ Williams turned into David Thompson

5/16/2011 12:14:35 AM

Quote :

"I’m horse Kobe ratted me out, that’s why I’m getting a divorce"

its I'm a horse you faggot ass copy paste cunt

[Edited on May 16, 2011 at 12:18 AM. Reason : i remember my first beer]

5/16/2011 12:18:24 AM

I wish CJ Williams would play like Engin Atsur
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8ZHomhO8Xk

5/16/2011 12:31:32 AM

i copy and pasted it dude give me a break. you think i have the kobe how my ass tastes lyrics memorized 5 years later jesus.

5/16/2011 1:04:01 AM

99% of NBA fans do, its not my fault that you are incapable of knowing that particular lyric

i mean, thats THE fucking lyric of the song, and you don't proofread that shit?

5/16/2011 1:10:38 AM

^^^damn, i wonder if engin has tried to make it in the NBA at all, or if he's perfectly content playing overseas. with the talent he's showing in that video, surely he could at least make an NBA roster.

5/16/2011 1:28:04 AM

Quote :

"Spoelstra's stubborn refusal to play Mike Miller"

Miller has been garbage all year, he doesn't need to be playing.

People still talking about Westbrook taking too many shots?? Triple double with 14 assists. I think the Thunder are going to give the Mavs all they can handle. Westbrook is going to kill their point guards.

I also think the Heat take game 2 in Chicago and take home court advantage. You had to see that let-down coming after the Celtics series. I don't think game 1 means a lot except for the fact that Chicago is ready to play.

5/16/2011 7:11:37 AM

Wow, like the Heat much? What about their play last night made you think they are ready to win in Chicago?

5/16/2011 9:46:09 AM

^Chicago lost to Atlanta in the first game of their series and was played straight up by Indiana in the first four games of round one. What makes you think Miami doesn't have a good chance in game two? Hate Miami much?

5/16/2011 10:16:20 AM

Didn't answer my question...

I don't hate Miami, but I think the Bulls showed last night that they are a much better all-around team. I just don't see the rationale behind apologetic arguments like "I don't think game 1 means a lot". Bosh had an absolutely stellar night and the Heat still lost by 21 points.

Meanwhile, Omar Asik had 11 minutes and Taj Gibson played 23... the Bulls didn't even have to fire on all cylinders and were cruising past the Heat, who they have now beat 4 times this season.

The Bulls didn't scrape a win out last night like they did many times against Indiana and Atlanta. It was (or should have been conceived as) a convincing win. It means something.



[Edited on May 16, 2011 at 10:28 AM. Reason : .]

5/16/2011 10:22:23 AM

Lol miller has been far from garbage this year. He played well last night they need his rebounding and shooting badly out there so I hope spoelstra continues to screw that up.

Tree, I hope you're kidding. I'm not black.

Taj Gibson unreal game, Miami is so overhyped just bc they beat an Avg Celts team with their best player hurt doesn't mean they'll beat Chicago. Get real guys there's a reason Miami was huge favorites its bc you guys know nothing about basketball.

Explain how a team can win the series when they get destroyed on the glass every game
Better yet name the last champion that wasn't a top notch rebounding team.

5/16/2011 10:28:13 AM

Quote :

"Bosh had an outstanding night and the Heat still lost by 21 points. "

And Wade and Lebron had horrible nights. Miami can't beat Charlotte when those two have bad games. And I doubt they both play bad again. Boston shut both of them down for most of the regular season and look what they did last series.

You just can't take a blowout in the NBA playoffs and dismiss the team that got beaten. The Thunder got worked in game 6 and came back and dominated game 7. And when you have a team like Miami that relies so heavily on two players and BOTH of those players have horrible games...it's just an outlier.



And Taj Gibson has been playing well for most of the playoffs. His 23 minutes isn't a big deal. Good job on pointing out both teams having their scrubs in the 4th quarter. You deserve a cookie.

5/16/2011 10:28:44 AM

I'm not dismissing anything. As a matter of fact, you're the one who just wants to look past Game 1 like it didn't fucking happen.

The only "scrub" that played in the 4th quarter for the Bulls was Watson. I don't even really remember the Bulls or the Heat going deep into the bench, even very late in the 4th quarter. Maybe we watched a different game. Must be hard to focus when you're wearing Miami Heat blinders.

5/16/2011 10:35:41 AM

I do want to give credit where credit is due. Obviously, one game does not a series make, but face really nailed how the game would go. Not only that, he put his money where his mouth was/is, and posted exactly what he bet. Very impressive.

5/16/2011 10:44:27 AM

Quote :

"People still talking about Westbrook taking too many shots?? Triple double with 14 assists. I think the Thunder are going to give the Mavs all they can handle. Westbrook is going to kill their point guards."

People don't talk about him taking too many shots when he doesn't take that many shots. They do talk about him taking too many shots when he takes a whole lot of shots.

So no, since he only took 12 shots instead of the 20+ he was taking most of the series.

5/16/2011 10:49:01 AM

It seems like Ive been waiting forever for the Bulls to get back to being good and it may be a year earlier than expected if they keep this up Now if only the Cubs could ya know get around to figuring it out haha

5/16/2011 10:57:18 AM

Quote :

"Lol miller has been far from garbage this year. He played well last night they need his rebounding and shooting badly out there so I hope spoelstra continues to screw that up."

Lol...

Miller shooting 36% from three this year and 40% overall (40 and 46 career)...and he's missed the big, wide open shots when needed (think 3rd game at Boston during reg season).

And he's shooting fucking 12 and 18% for the playoffs. Abysmal. He'd get more minutes if he could hit a shot.

5/16/2011 11:09:46 AM

50% from 2's and 36% from 3's while battling a thumb injury is actually pretty solid. Don't forget he crushed rebs this year to the tune of 10.6 reb / 48 mins which is absurd for a shooting guard.

But I guess the heat don't need rebounds to win right?

[Edited on May 16, 2011 at 12:29 PM. Reason : a]

5/16/2011 12:27:51 PM

^ Not when he can't make any shots. The Heat already have enough non-threats on the offensive end. Until he can knock down and open three, you give more minutes to Jones instead of Miller.

5/16/2011 12:35:43 PM

after the Bulls win the series, I wonder if Lebron takes his Heat jersey off on the way into the locker room and decides to take his talents to Michigan Avenue

5/16/2011 12:49:07 PM

Quote :

"I do want to give credit where credit is due. Obviously, one game does not a series make, but face really nailed how the game would go. Not only that, he put his money where his mouth was/is, and posted exactly what he bet. Very impressive."

5/16/2011 7:25:14 PM

what the hell is michigan avenue?

Quote :

"Explain how a team can win the series when they get destroyed on the glass every game Better yet name the last champion that wasn't a top notch rebounding team."

Anthony was dominating the celtics. This all goes back to the Perkins trade.

5/16/2011 7:45:31 PM

I agree that the Celtics were a shell of themselves in the Miami series; however, Miami had pretty convincing wins in games 1 and 2 against a healthy Rondo.

Bosh "had an outstanding night" yet could have gone for 40+ if they hadn't reverted to that isolation bullshit in the 3rd quarter. Chicago's defense dictates that to a degree but you have two great passers in Wade and Lebron who should be facilitating the offense. It's clear that neither one will be able to attack as they did against the Celtics, unless their outside shot is falling. 93 games into this experiment, and they still haven't figured out that the Wade-Lebron screen and roll is by far their highest percentage play.

5/16/2011 10:23:24 PM

I bet they put that screen and roll in over the summer. The problem is the bench. They still won't have a bench unless they start last year's heat and make lebron, illgauskas, and three scrub shooters the bench. That seems like the most effective option. Then put bosh at 5 lebron at 4 and wade at 2 down the stretch letting fresh lebron close it out.

5/16/2011 10:52:07 PM

yeah, let lebron close it out

brilliant

5/16/2011 10:53:42 PM

what?

Lebron would be the best bench player and closer in the history of the nba though if you did that.

Also you would have AT LEAST 30-50 bench points every night. I don't see how that could fail. Plus your starting lineup would be good enough to make the playoffs even without lebron. Right now the heat can only really come after you in spurts. They can't play a full game with high intensity. This is why they were only able to run away from the sixers in one game. The bulls will continue to dominate the bench in this series.

5/16/2011 11:17:42 PM

you must have missed my point, as Lebron isnt even the best closer on his team

and now you're advocating bringing in one of the best players in the game off the bench

why did i even respond in the first place

5/17/2011 12:21:36 AM

Wade is the finisher on the Heat

also arguing Lebron as the greatest bench player of all time=

5/17/2011 12:29:28 AM

Anyone that knows basketball knows you get less returns when you play lebron and wade together. They also know that the weak bench is what kills that heat and letting lebron exclusively run the show with a bunch of bench shooters would be efficient as long as it didn't go on so long to wear him down (cleveland).

With that said, it seems logical to play three lines for the heat

chalmers
wade
miller
bosh
anthony

This is your starting lineup. You get good rebounding and establish bosh as the offensive presence while playing through wade.

bibby
jones
miller
lebron
illgauskas

Lebron comes in and absolutely explodes on the other teams bench while distributing the ball to four shooters. This may be the highest +- group in the league since lebron is fresh and you're playing against the other team's bench.

bibby/chalmers(hot hand)
wade
jones
lebron
bosh

This is your closing lineup. You get the ball in the hands of FRESH lebron or wade and theres nobody to help off of.

With their current roster, there is no way they can consistently put up enough points and play at a high enough level with lebron and wade getting 40 minutes together. You have to stagger them to be great. You get better returns playing them apart because lebron can take over an entire game by himself.

People focus way too much on who starts a game instead of who is efficient and who is finishing the game.

5/17/2011 1:40:03 AM

the only somewhat comparable scenario to what you're proposing is when Ginobli came off the bench for San Antonio...at the time he hadn't blown up as a star, and Bowen still had a little lateral quickness and was a better defender who deserved to start for his defense

bringing Lebron off the bench on the other hand is retarded...I don't disagree that when you play Wade and Lebron together that their stats will suffer a little because the other one is getting looks, but you don't pay a guy $16 million a year to come off the bench, anyone that knows basketball knows that

5/17/2011 1:51:36 AM

you are confusing off the bench with bench minutes. Starting the game doesn't really mean anything at all.

[Edited on May 17, 2011 at 2:28 AM. Reason : its more like paying ace money for your 2nd pitcher]

[Edited on May 17, 2011 at 2:30 AM. Reason : if it bothers you that much just say the closing group is the starters and then switch 5mins in]

5/17/2011 2:27:01 AM

ok here are my questions for you

- How many minutes does Lebron play
- How many minutes does Wade play
- How many of their minutes do they play together

5/17/2011 3:47:54 AM

LeBron will come off the bench as soon as the Jay's make Bautista a pinch hitter and the Eagles start using Vick exclusively in the Wildcat

[Edited on May 17, 2011 at 9:49 AM. Reason : x]

5/17/2011 9:49:02 AM

lol

5/17/2011 9:52:11 AM

1st

first 4 minutes: team 3
second 8 minutes: team 1

2nd

First 8 minutes: team 2
Second 4 minutes: team 3

3rd

First 4 minutes: team 3
Second 8 minutes: team 2

4th

First 4 minutes: team 1
Second 4 minutes: team 2
last 4 minutes: team 3

Team 1: 12 minutes
Team 2: 20 minutes
Team 3: 16 minutes with big three together

1+3=32 wade and bosh minutes
2+3=36 lebron minutes

5/17/2011 11:04:24 AM