He only has 2 rings so far.

6/10/2015 2:03:08 PM

When Jordan first left the bulls they still went 55-27

When LeBron left, they sucked ass.

6/10/2015 3:48:49 PM

Jordan had a top 50 player of all time with him for his whole career. Lebron doesn't have a top 50 NBA player in the league right now on his own team.

6/10/2015 3:54:20 PM

Right. That's why I'm saying Lebron has a chance to be rated as highly as Jordan although he only has won champs twice so far.

6/10/2015 4:01:18 PM

If Lebron jumped ship to the Lakers next season, and Kyrie and Love stayed in Cleveland and were healthy, I'm pretty sure they'd be a high seed in the East.

6/10/2015 5:20:53 PM

If youre counting rings then you need to consider horry as one of the best ever too

6/10/2015 5:24:45 PM

Yeah, who cares about championships? Meaningless accomplishment.

6/10/2015 7:55:24 PM

Team accomplishment. I was talking about greatest individual players of all time. Thay would be a useful stat for a discussion about the greatest dynasties of all time.

6/10/2015 10:52:31 PM

Of course I'm talking about superstar MVP level, not role players.
Shaq, Duncan, Jordan, Magic, Kobe. Those are all-time all-stars because they have at least 3 championships.
On the contrary, T-Mac, Iverson, Carter... Fallen stars with wasted talent.

6/10/2015 11:00:30 PM

shoot understands

6/10/2015 11:10:41 PM

Neither of you seem to realize that championships are awarded to teams, not players. Sure, ability to elevate your team to that level is important, but comparing players solely based on number of titles or creating some arbitrary cutoff point for greatness is silly.

6/10/2015 11:16:06 PM

Ability to elevate your team to that level is the most important. And nobody in here is claiming Steve Kerr is better than KD because he has 4 rings or however many. You seem to hate-watch the NBA for some reason.

6/11/2015 12:34:45 AM

Championship definitely matters for superstar, especially LeBron. Otherwise he wouldn't go to Miami. If he didn't make that decision, he will be perished in Cleveland forever perhaps and be quickly forgotten like Iverson.

6/11/2015 9:43:40 AM

MJ actually said it "whose the greatest ever? Dumb question. It should be who is the greatest team of all time".

6/11/2015 10:18:52 AM

My understanding is he tried to be humble.

6/11/2015 10:33:29 AM

LOL @ the thought of Michael Jordan being humble.


I thought we were basketball fans on here? There is no reason to still do this Jordan/Lebron comparisons. It's petty. They are two different players. Their games don't favor at all. It's oil and water. Mike was a shooter and Lebron is a driver. It surprises me that Lebron's point totals are so high. And it surprises me that mike's assists number are high as well. They're great players playing a kids games in different eras.

Both of them aren't Russell tho. The greatest of all time.

6/11/2015 1:03:28 PM

For the first time during the playoffs, I am legitimately worried about the Dubs chances. If they lose tonight, I think the series is done. Sucks I won't even get to watch as I'll be teaching a class from 6-10

[Edited on June 11, 2015 at 2:07 PM. Reason : .]

6/11/2015 2:07:01 PM

^^ Why LOL? It's possible.

6/11/2015 3:40:49 PM

Lebron literally does it all. He can play as jordan for a few plays and hakeem the next then go back to being magic. Hes the t1000 of basketball players.

6/11/2015 3:43:57 PM

If they win the game tonight, 80% they win the title.

6/11/2015 3:48:15 PM

Wonder what Lebron's point totals this Finals would be if Kerr's gameplan wasn't to "make the other guys beat us while letting Lebron get his"

6/11/2015 4:23:17 PM

Game ends at 12 am EST. A sleepless night.

6/11/2015 7:35:26 PM

The crazy part is he's not really shooting that well. He's missing a lot of midrange jumpers and shots at the rim that he usually makes.

6/11/2015 7:38:47 PM

He's more like Allen Iverson, LOL

6/11/2015 7:42:21 PM

Don't ever compare Iverson to LeBron again, shoot, you fucking chode

6/11/2015 8:58:53 PM

艾弗森和勒布朗都具有比DROD更大的阴茎

6/11/2015 9:07:41 PM

either Delly or David Lee are gonna get T'd up this game

6/11/2015 9:35:58 PM

Brilliant change. At this pace lebron will need to drop 60 instead of 40.

6/11/2015 9:39:55 PM

Driving past that Aussie fraud at will so far

6/11/2015 9:46:41 PM

Game is a complete 180 from the previous 3. Wonder when Cleveland makes their run

6/11/2015 9:52:48 PM

When the other four chumps on the floor not named Lebron start hitting shots.

6/11/2015 9:56:51 PM

James bloodied

6/11/2015 9:59:47 PM

no blood no foul

6/11/2015 9:59:56 PM

Pretty negligent that the nba stikk lets people play after hits like that without a concussion test...after the klay thompson debacle.

6/11/2015 10:02:53 PM

Silver just blamed the nbas injury problems on aau. LOL.

6/11/2015 10:27:04 PM

Lebron is gonna go all Magic Johnson on the Warriors

(with head AIDS)

6/11/2015 10:36:07 PM

And it's a game again... Warriors bricking wide open shots all over the place

6/11/2015 10:55:24 PM

someone is gonna give Dellavedova some ridiculous contract out of this and I'm gonna laugh my ass off.

6/11/2015 10:56:00 PM

I remember people were debating if the dubs had a legit center. Case closed lol.

6/11/2015 11:00:23 PM

fucking warriors out here running zone basically

6/11/2015 11:05:03 PM

Lebron is so gassed...

6/11/2015 11:09:06 PM

Damn the Warriors can play like complete shit at times.. Bron is dogshit from the stripe tonight

6/11/2015 11:09:22 PM

Lol this line up would be lucky to win a dozen games.

[Edited on June 11, 2015 at 11:31 PM. Reason : Iggy4life]

6/11/2015 11:16:00 PM

Worst mvp ever tho

6/11/2015 11:39:07 PM

0 points in the 4th quarter. LOL @ LeBron

6/11/2015 11:51:42 PM

^dude, he was playing with a severe concussion and his head had a massive gash in it. He's easily the greatest ever to even continue playing, especially considering he's on a team full of guys who'd get picked last in a pickup game at Carmichael. Michael Who?

6/11/2015 11:57:35 PM

Cali Fan Boi was remarkably silent in this thread during games 2 and 3

I suppose we'll see a lot more posts now

6/12/2015 12:03:02 AM

That was a hell of an effort by Lebron...his head was still bleeding after the game...and gaping apparently.

To have had such a poor shooting night, the dude still had a 20 point double double.

If any of the cavs not named Mozgov could make anything, they would have kept it close.

6/12/2015 12:17:51 AM

They need to draft ralston

6/12/2015 12:31:14 AM

while i do think they should move the cameras back farther, i have little sympathy for lebron on that play. he took a dive to try to sell a flagrant foul and it backfired. they played Bogut's response to a post game question about it on mike and mike this morning, was surprised that he straight up said that lebron jumped into the camera and that he was acting. figured he'd be a little more opaque about his thoughts on that one.

http://www.sbnation.com/nba/2015/6/11/8769525/is-andre-iguodala-mocking-lebron-james-by-faking-an-injury

LOLOLOLOL

6/12/2015 9:28:48 AM