discussing a 50% back for being actually rolled for 20/40 with 40/80 shots with an investor from florida...

10/25/2006 9:31:39 AM

The most reliable timing tell I use is when a player calls quickly. When somebody has a monster they generally take a little bit of time to think about whether they want to call or raise(not that they will actually raise, but they will generally consider the possibility), so it is fairly safe to deduce that a player who takes no time with his decision has an average strength hand that is worth a call but not worth even thinking about raising. I will be more likely to fire the second/third barrel(with nothing) if I've picked up on this and I think I can get him off the hand.

Also, some bad players will let their time run all the way down when they have a good hand. This is not nearly as reliable because it could also be due to other factors like multitabling, but it's good to know. Especially on pokerstars where they can use the 'time' button in cash games.

I try to take about the same amount of time with every action I take.

10/25/2006 1:51:41 PM

how does this sound: would you do it?

a 50% back with 5k per person, me and the investor.

2k/2k or 100 BB stop loss, for his pull out.

one month "sessions", net for all sessions in the month determines final month rates.

25% of profits to investor, losses split 50/50.

At the end of any month session, i could opt to "buy out" of the deal, or keep working up for possibly moving up in limits.

no tournaments, just the 10/20 or 20/40 cash games, lhe, 10/20 or 15/30 two way.

talking to him, he would like a contiual partial buyout, or a marginally larger % profit sharing, which works great for me i think as roll building and then getting into being on my own, closer to moving up. ideally, id love to be rolled and have the game for 40/80 by 2008.

10/25/2006 2:03:32 PM

I don't see why it is 5K per person if he pulls out at 2K losses.

10/25/2006 2:16:29 PM

Work your way up like a normal poker player, by winning lots of BB's at levels you're rolled for. If you can't do that, you shouldn't be moving up. You have gotten yourself in trouble before by moving up after just a few good sessions.

I really don't see what your hurry is.

It took me nearly two years to move up from .5/1nl to 1/2nl. It wouldn't have taken me nearly that long if I wasn't constantly withdrawing money to live off of and pay prior debts, but the experience from all those hands was very important for sustaining success at my new game.

10/25/2006 2:16:37 PM

i may have to go with ^ on this one ben

10/25/2006 2:32:49 PM

but im not moving up...

its 10/20 or 20/40...

[Edited on October 25, 2006 at 2:51 PM. Reason : e]

10/25/2006 2:50:23 PM

It's not moving up only because your normal game is under rolled. 5k seems really low for 20/40, how many BB's are you supposed to have in limit?


I'm pretty much against backing agreements all together, I think you should just play 10/20 on your own. The only advantages I see are psychological. Maybe having this agreement in the back of your mind will make you play better. Maybe the extra 2k stop/loss will keep you from busto if you hit a bad run at 20/40, and hopefully you will only lose 2k instead of tilting off your entire roll.




[Edited on October 25, 2006 at 3:18 PM. Reason : .]

10/25/2006 3:17:40 PM

Okay, last page I posted a hand where I raised with 76s, got reraised, and won a huge pot when I flopped big. Today we have an example of what NOT to do when you flop small under the same circumstances.



***** Hand History for Game 173330630 *****
$1.00/$2.00 NL Texas Hold'em - Wed, Oct 25, 19:40:43 2006
Table My Boy (Real Money)
Seat 1 is the button
Total number of players : 6
Seat 1: weaksauce ($336.55)
Seat 2: spel-nils ($34.75)
Seat 3: LarZ0N ($243.05)
Seat 4: SodaPopinski_ ($172.00)
Seat 5: Mounty15 ($337.05)
Seat 6: EXCon666 ($78.50)
spel-nils posts small blind [$1.00]
LarZ0N posts big blind [$2.00]
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to weaksauce [ Ks Kh ]
Mounty15 raises [$6.00]
EXCon666 folds
weaksauce raises [$18.00]
spel-nils folds
LarZ0N folds
Mounty15 calls [$12.00]
** Dealing Flop ** [ 2c Jd 5s ]
Mounty15 checks
weaksauce bets [$32.00]
Mounty15 calls [$32.00]
** Dealing Turn ** [ 9h ]
Mounty15 bets [$51.00]
weaksauce calls [$51.00]
** Dealing River ** [ 6s ]
Mounty15 bets [$2.00]
weaksauce raises [$100.00]
Mounty15 calls [$98.00]
weaksauce shows [ Ks Kh ] a Pair, Kings
Mounty15 shows[ 7c 6c ] a Pair, Sixes
weaksauce wins $403.00 from the main pot



This game never seizes to amaze me. His line: float the flop with no hand and no draw, lead out 1/2 pot when he turns a gutshot(I cold called here b/c 2 pair was possible and we were deepstacked), and lastly min bet 3rd pair on the river and call a $100 raise.

Don't be that guy.





Sidenote: The old me probably just calls his river bet, happy to take down the pot. The new me is greedy and wants value from a likely jack(err.. 6?) here. The new me makes more money.




[Edited on October 25, 2006 at 4:17 PM. Reason : .]

10/25/2006 4:07:45 PM

What kind of freaking river play is that?

$2? 2 fucking $?

And then to call it off like that, what's he hoping you got A-K? Holy Jesus I want to play with that idiot.

10/25/2006 4:42:30 PM

European players are pretty terrible. This is the Tain network.

10/25/2006 4:57:52 PM

Obviously you had a good read on this guy, cause 90% of the time I don't make that play.

10/25/2006 9:15:46 PM

I wasn't sure I had him on the turn, so I just called and let him act on the river before I decided how to proceed. I did have a read on the guy, definately enough to deduce that I had him on the river. So I went for the value bet figuring that he was dumb enough to call me with a worse hand(I put him on a jack). I briefly considered calling the river, happy just to take down a nice pot.


That's something I've been working on recently, getting extra value on the turn or river from worse hands. I used to be a lot more cautious on those streets, kind of a murphy's law type thing. It is very read dependent, and it definately adds up by the end of the session.





In fact, I just remember a hand I had with this guy when he first sat down at the table and I had no read on him:


***** Hand History for Game 173288298 *****
$1.00/$2.00 NL Texas Hold'em - Wed, Oct 25, 18:37:34 2006
Table My Boy (Real Money)
Seat 1 is the button
Total number of players : 5
Seat 1: weaksauce ($222.45)
Seat 2: johnnymarr ($193.00)
Seat 3: Nandodeep ($131.55)
Seat 4: SodaPopinski_ ($200.00)
Seat 5: Mounty15 ($231.60)
johnnymarr posts small blind [$1.00]
Nandodeep posts big blind [$2.00]
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to weaksauce [ Qh Jd ]
Alf_5 has left the table
SodaPopinski_ folds
Mounty15 calls [$2.00]
weaksauce raises [$9.00]
johnnymarr folds
Nandodeep calls [$7.00]
Mounty15 calls [$7.00]
** Dealing Flop ** [ 7d 2c 6s ]
Nandodeep checks
Mounty15 bets [$16.00]
weaksauce raises [$48.00]
Nandodeep folds
Mounty15 calls [$32.00]
** Dealing Turn ** [ 2d ]
Mounty15 checks
weaksauce bets [$80.00]
Mounty15 folds
weaksauce is refunded uncalled bet $80.00
weaksauce does not show cards.
weaksauce wins $122.00 from the main pot



Just a standard power play by me(I hate people leading out at my pots). Sometime between this hand and the KK hand I determined that this guy was a total fish, and this is a play I will never make on him again(he got a note). Looking back, it's pretty amazing that I got away with it.

10/26/2006 1:44:09 AM

NoidRoid is my NL soldja hero.

10/26/2006 11:08:01 AM

^^ actually i would do that to him again

his call of your re-raise on the flop shows he will lead out and then call you with 0pair when reraised. Likely dumping the 0pair when he doesnt hit on the turn or river. I believe playing it any differently you leave money on the table

[Edited on October 26, 2006 at 11:25 AM. Reason : .]

10/26/2006 11:12:19 AM

Quote :

"Looking back, it's pretty amazing that I got away with it."

Why is that?

10/26/2006 11:16:12 AM

I really want to step up my game and have poker as a viable small second income (a few hundred extra a month would be great). This is basically my history on the levels I play at:

Back when I first started, I played at the small NL tables on partypoker, and lost all my money twice (before I really knew anything about poker and just started watching it on tv)

Over the past two years I've been playing off and on using PokerStars. I started with some small limit tables, then moved to some small NL tables, then SnGs. I've never been consistant enough to make any big cash outs. I have had the same $25 deposit in there since 2004. It's gone up and down. I usually get it up to about $90 playing the $3 Turbo SnG, and then would feel confident, move up to the next level, and either have a mental block, or possibly get caught a few times with some bad beats, and it would scare me back down to the lower levels.

I guess my question after babbling on is where did you start? When did you go when you decided to be more serious about your game? Any particular sites that seem better to start out on instead of pokerstars?

10/26/2006 11:38:44 AM

I fucked up pretty bad last night in a hand, but i was ...... intruiged by the way it went down.

20/40 borgata.

i raise 4d6d utg.

button calls (really weak guy), bb calls (really, erally bad guy)

flop comes 5s 7d Th

BB bets, i raise, button folds, BB calls.

turn is a Jd BB checks, i bet, he calls

river is a 4h.

He checks, i of course bet,

he raises, and now i sling off a call primarily just to see what he had been playing.

"straight!"

(heres where i fuck up)

i fire my cards into the muck.

He turns over Ah3h.

Dealer starts sending the pot, the table gets up in arms, im not paying attention, watching TV. The dealer realizes he has ace high, and then I see whats going on, how he misslead the action by inducing me to muck by essentially lying about his hand.

For some reason im not quite sure if it's correct, the floor decided that since his behavior induced my fold, my cards were deemed live again, and the pot was awarded to me.

wtf? was this right?

the moral is, dont muck untill you know you are beat.

(i just didnt want anyone seeing what i was playing with)





another interesting story, an asian guy sat down beside me last night, at 20/40 with 2 racks (100 chips each) of red $5 chips, which is standard.

He then pulls out his man purse onto the table, and dumps out ~35 $1,000 chips, 16 wraps of $2000 in 20's, rubber banded into 8k bundles, and 2 10k wraps of 100's.

He asks the table for assistance. he doesnt want to go through the w-2gs that will be posted by buying more than 10k at a time, so he hands a couple of people some cash and watches them go to the cashier.

I took 8k in 20's up, got stacks of 100's, and he flicked me a $100 chip as a tip.

each person who did this got a black chip tip.

ive never seen anything like this before, and i have no idea why he'd rather have had ~50k in various chip assortments than cash, but whatever dude.

(money laundering prly)

10/26/2006 11:40:23 AM

Time for some carrot action..


^ He was definately washing that money, haven't you seen Tilt? lol

^^ I started off at Party, donked off a couple $50 deposits before getting lucky in a tournament for a $770 cash. I took that money to the cash tables, two tabling $50 buy-ins at a time and lost half of it. Then I spent a good week reading everything I could find online about nl cash games and came back strong. I also worked my way up to playing 4 tables about this time, and started turning a small profit. I only started really making money two years ago when I found bonus whoring and got pokertracker. Bonuses gave me consistent income(I didn't have a job at the time) and the 100's of thousands of hands I was playing was giving me the experience to consistently increase my success at the $100 buy-in tables. The bonuses eventually dried up(though they're not completely gone) and I spent a lot of time studying my game to see why I wasn't winning as much money as I should. I made a drastic change in my play style and took it to the $200 buy-in tables where I had rakeback, that's where I stand right now. I hope to keep winning and get my poker bankroll up to 20k for a move up to the $400 buy-in tables within 6 months(while having to withdraw enough money to live off of, I still don't have a job).

^^^ cause he has shown a willingness to play a $400 pot with like bottom pair

^^^^

Quote :

"his call of your re-raise on the flop shows he will lead out and then call you with 0pair when reraised. Likely dumping the 0pair when he doesnt hit on the turn or river. I believe playing it any differently you leave money on the table "

He didn't have an overpair, he's a fish. He just called the raise on the flop because seeing only 3 cards is just not enough. I think he would have called my turn bet if he had pretty much anything, which is why I feel fortunate to have stolen that pot from him.

This is a play I use a lot against somewhat solid players, not total fish. Basically what's happening when people lead out into your raised pots is they want to find out if you have a big overpair or not. So more often than not I will make this play with absolutely nothing, giving them the information they were looking for(that I have an overpair). It's just defining your hand, doesn't really matter if you have the hand or not cause they're probably not geting to the showdown. Sometimes they fold when I triple their lead out, sometimes they get stubborn and fold to my big bet on the turn, but a solid player will usually fold under this much pressure. Or they trap the fuck outta me with a set.







[Edited on October 26, 2006 at 1:47 PM. Reason : .]

10/26/2006 1:19:07 PM

Pilgrim, I am always here to help! Let me start with the second story first...you helped him wash dirty money. Most likely drugs, but he must be either a) new or b) bold to do it that way.

On the mucked hand deemed live:
My friend Robert will tell you to always start at Section 2: House Policies - DECISION-MAKING
1. Management reserves the right to make decisions in the spirit of fairness, even if a strict
interpretation of the rules may indicate a different ruling.
But actually this one is pretty clear anyhow:
Section 3 - General Poker Rules - Dead Hands
2. Cards thrown into the muck may be ruled dead. However, a hand that is clearly identifiable may
be retrieved at management's discretion if doing so is in the best interest of the game. We will
make an extra effort to rule a hand retrievable if it was folded as a result of incorrect information
given to the player.
and
Section 3 - General Poker Rules - The Showdown
2. Cards speak (cards read for themselves). The dealer assists in reading hands, but players are
responsible for holding onto their cards until the winner is declared. Although verbal declarations
as to the contents of a hand are not binding, deliberately miscalling a hand with the intent of
causing another player to discard a winning hand is unethical and may result in forfeiture of the
pot. (For more information on miscalling a hand see “Section 11 - Lowball,” Rule 15 and Rule 16.)


They could have gone either way with it, but if they think the guy did it intentionally, the pot is yours. And even if they don't think it was intentional, special effort is given to identify your cards.

10/26/2006 1:28:55 PM

^^ 0pair meant no pair

my bad

10/26/2006 1:53:25 PM

Thanks mims, that was kinda how i was described the ruling by a buddy at the table (Josh from previous stories). Interesting how much leniency the floor has there.


Speaking of Josh, kid was runnin' gooooood last night.

Was involved with him in a 35 big bet pot, that was just sick.

Im OTB with AsTs.

Folds to the CO, a guy on total monkey tilt. was greased ~1500, now stuck ~2 dimes.

CO raises, I smooth call, looking to get some toher callers.

Mad Croatian dude with the breath of a cat's asshole int he SB calls, Josh in the BB 3 bets.

CO calls, I call, SB caps (wtf????)

all call. im pissed im stuck in the lurch with a destroyed hand.

Flop: Kh Qs 2h (4 way capped, for $320, or 16 small bets)

and the roller coaster hit the top of the hill, ready for the ride.

SB bets, Josh raises, CO 3 bets, i get rid of my cards like they had the avain flu, SB caps, call call.

(3 way capped, for $560, 14 big bets)

Turn Js.

SB bets, Josh raises, CO 3 bets, (it would have been my turn to act and i feel like vomiting), SB caps, call, call.

(3 way capped, for $1040, or 26 big bets)

River Jh (now, im glad i folded, no longer feel like vomiting, and realize i probably would have if i were in the hand after making the miricale turn.)

SB bets, josh raises, CO 3 bets, SB dumps, Josh caps, call.

(2 caps + 1 big bet, for $1400, or 35 BB, a fucking monster.)

Josh: QQ for Queens full
CO: Ah Qh for Ace high flush
SB: AKo for a donk and a half.

the dealer needed a backhoe to push nearly three racks of red chips to josh.

kid was runnin' good. in the like 4 hours i was playing, he ran from $1200->~$3500. making good plays, but generally flopping huge into hands that others couldnt get away from.

thats the biggest key to running good, having your hands be large and others having hands that they have to pay you off big on.

10/26/2006 2:00:01 PM

^^ 0ic. Still, I don't like making big bluffs against guys like this. But I WILL keep make pot sized PFR's against them with hands like QJo in position and try to outplay them in medium sized pots.




[Edited on October 26, 2006 at 2:25 PM. Reason : .]

10/26/2006 2:16:39 PM

Anyone know where i can get a brick of $1 bills?

I'd like ~$3000 in ones.

If im gonna get a pokerstars parka, then by god before i sell it on ebay im going to take some retarded pictures.

10/26/2006 2:21:55 PM

^^ Yeah but those are always the most nailbiting hands. I never know what the hell is going on in those situations under pressure.

10/26/2006 2:24:12 PM

That hand got sickly big for those hands. Middle set should have gotten a little antsy and that guy should be shot for letting himself call/raise off that much to catch a flush on the river. I wonder if the donk even noticed the same card that made his hand paired the board and made it useless.

10/26/2006 2:38:08 PM

Just witnessed some more juicy eurotard action:


***** Hand History for Game 173990648 *****
$1.00/$2.00 NL Texas Hold'em - Thu, Oct 26, 22:51:24 2006
Table Irish Blood English Heart (Real Money)
Seat 1 is the button
Total number of players : 6
Seat 1: judaz ($240.80)
Seat 2: rikkke_nr1 ($199.00)
Seat 3: Challe_1 ($248.50)
Seat 4: SodaPopinski_ ($143.00)
Seat 5: ranaren85 ($385.50)
Seat 6: weaksauce ($288.20)
rikkke_nr1 posts small blind [$1.00]
Challe_1 posts big blind [$2.00]
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to weaksauce [ Ad Js ]
SodaPopinski_ folds
ranaren85 raises [$4.00]
weaksauce calls [$4.00]
judaz folds
rikkke_nr1 folds
Challe_1 calls [$2.00]
** Dealing Flop ** [ 5c 4c 5d ]
Challe_1 checks
ranaren85 bets [$6.00]
weaksauce folds
Challe_1 calls [$6.00]
** Dealing Turn ** [ 8s ]
Challe_1 checks
ranaren85 bets [$13.00]
Challe_1 calls [$13.00]
** Dealing River ** [ 2d ]
Challe_1 checks
ranaren85 bets [$50.00]
Challe_1 calls [$50.00]
ranaren85 shows [ 9s 3d ] a Pair, Fives
Challe_1 shows [ 2h Kh ] Two Pair, Fives and Deuces
Challe_1 wins $148.00 from the main pot



Bottom pair draw! Nailed it! nhggwtf

10/26/2006 7:23:40 PM

^ irish blood engish heart
hahahah

where the hell are you playing?

10/26/2006 8:07:43 PM

The Tain network.. Eurolinx



[Edited on October 26, 2006 at 8:13 PM. Reason : .]

10/26/2006 8:13:18 PM

WTF is it with guys in UB always asking for money in my damn tournaments. They are always asking for a buck. I don't fucking get it. I've been screwing with one guy for about half an hour at one table. Plan to keep doing it until I bust out.

10/26/2006 9:55:14 PM

Quote :

"If im gonna get a pokerstars parka, then by god before i sell it on ebay im going to take some retarded pictures."

LMAO! That's great.


You'd have to make a few trips I think but you can get bundles of $100 in 1's at any bank.

10/27/2006 9:00:34 AM

I want to gamble dammit, but I'm too poor to play whilst I'm starting my business up. When I get some cash, I'm coming to gamble with you guys. I don't care if you're playing 20/40 while I'm playing 1-2, I'm there.

10/27/2006 9:28:46 AM

What's your business?

10/27/2006 9:31:42 AM

Quote :

"I want to gamble dammit, but I'm too poor to play whilst I'm starting my business up. When I get some cash, I'm coming to gamble with you guys. I don't care if you're playing 20/40 while I'm playing 1-2, I'm there."

drive up to ac this weekend.

if you dont mind a dog, you can crash at my place.

you only need to bring like $600 or so to feel pretty comfortable playing 1/2 nl on the weekend....


(nut peddling still brings in the chips)

when i was going up to play 1/2 or 6/12 lhe, i never took more than 500, and didnt have a problem

[Edited on October 27, 2006 at 10:00 AM. Reason : e]

10/27/2006 9:59:44 AM

I'm a financial consultant, so I'm doing planning work and Asset Management. Unfortunately, I don't do enough of it to pay the bills yet (just getting started)

I'll come crash at your place in AC eventually, I just gotta get the scratch. (I have $500, but I need it to pay bills, lol)

10/27/2006 10:25:52 AM

Just sell one share of goog

10/27/2006 10:36:56 AM

lol, yeah, well unfortunately I don't hold any goog.

10/27/2006 10:41:49 AM

bills are stupid, and im not in AC, but like 75 miles of highway and expressway driving out.

(at night i can make it through the tolls and shit in less than an hour door to door.)

close enough though.

[Edited on October 27, 2006 at 10:48 AM. Reason : e]


id hate to actually live in ac.

that place is a total shit hole.

[Edited on October 27, 2006 at 10:53 AM. Reason : e]

10/27/2006 10:47:26 AM

So the borgata opened up a new high rollers lounge downstairs where the old poker room and race book was.

lots of flat screens, couches, the works.

expansive buffet for $10.

You need a black My Borgata card for entry.

I want a black card.

free parking, high roller lounge, like 75% off buffets, food discounts, the works.

for only putting in poker play however it's fucking hard to get.

From what ive been told, you can go put in green play at a BJ table and get upgraded to a black card in a few hours.

however, for a poker only player, it takes 1,000 points. how the points are determined is by your rewards comp dollars, or essentially your rake back.

at 10/20 you get $2 per hour played. (rake is $5/0.5 hr time charge)
at 20/40 its like $2.50 or $3 per hour played. ($7/05. hr time charge)

In order to get your full 1000 points, 500 hours at 10/20 or 400 hours at 20/40 are necessary within one calendar year.

just think, thats only paying $5,000 for the 10/20 player per year for free parking and access to the lounge.

youd ont really think about how much rake effects you, but it really really does. It takes quite a bit to break even after the rake, esp. online.

Another thing that was surprising was how much tips eat you away too.

Remember when iwas saying that i was playing that side betting game with "amy" a few days ago?

During the time we were playing, before we had realized it, the $100 in whites i had bought had been nearly all given off for dealer tips and drink tips. its quite impressive really.

Its also impressive how much money these dealers make. The better ones can pull upwards of $500 a night in tips. not a bad gig. same for poker room cocktail waitresses. the ones in the pit are on tipshare, but the ones int he room are not....


just a few notes.

10/27/2006 11:40:12 AM

How often are you tipping dealers and how much are you drinking?

Just curious.

10/27/2006 11:44:33 AM

Quote :

"During the time we were playing, before we had realized it, the $100 in whites i had bought had been nearly all given off for dealer tips and drink tips. its quite impressive really."

Yeah, I fucking hate that. I've started to tip less and don't usually tip unless the pot is > $100
Usually I'll order two drinks at once if I'm playing with a buddy or just avoid them all together to limit having to sprint to the restroom every hour.

10/27/2006 11:50:41 AM

^ In my first cash game experience at borgata I sat down and won the first had by catching trip aces that didn't get paid off. I raked in the pot and promptly got reamed for not tipping the dealer. I had to skirt the line between being too generous and being a cheap wad. Being a cheapass gets you a lot of negative attention, and I prefer to play under the radar since I tend to be a bit of a rock...

10/27/2006 11:58:23 AM

Quote :

"How often are you tipping dealers and how much are you drinking? Just curious. "

Everytime I win a pot I tip the dealer.

pots <$100, $1 $100-$200, $2. >$200, $3

Im in quite a few pots however since im a pretty active player, so eh. win lots of pots, lose lots of pots.

dealers i dont like, are flat $1. dealers that are good, maybe more. Dealers that get lots of hands out per half hour and keep the game running fast and smooth, get more.

For drinks, I dont drink alcohol when I play, unless im dickin' around with friends or something. I drink green tea with a lemon or cranberry juice with limes and usually about 2 per hour or so. ~1-2 tip per drink. I find that when i play i often play my whole session (sometimes up to 30 hours) without eating, and juices and teas are good for that type of behaviour on the stomach...


As an experiment, tonight or tommorow, next time I go, ill keep track of how much I tip. I'd be willing to bet itll be over $100 for a night.

10/27/2006 1:08:07 PM

Last night at Champions Plaza West, the 7 o' Clock game started and then I found out that BORAT was playing at Crossroads at 8. So I figured if I don't start off kicking ass I can just play horrible and race to Crossroads to watch Borat. I then had the worst bad luck with good luck ever.

About 20 minutes into the game my $6,000 in chips had turned into about $1500. So I figured I was low enough to go all in and head out and watch some Borat (didn't want to go all in with a big stack because no one would call and I would just look like a tool....and i play with these people weekly) So... like 4 people call me and I win on the river...now I have 7,000 in chips. Not quite the highest stack in the room, about average... I figure I still have about 20 minutes to lose all my chips or decide to start playing for real. I tried. I really tried to play horrible and lose my chips, but I kept doubling/trippling up... and lots of times on the river. You could see some people were just pissed at me. It was great. By 7:50 with about twice the chip stack of anyone else, I knew there was no way I was going to catch the movie. Instead I started to play for real. By the time we got to the final table (started with about 35 people) I still had about twice as many chips as most people, except for this one guy who almost had as many as I did. When it came down to heads up, It was me vs this woman i've played and lost to before. she is really good. she went in heads up against me with about 15% of the total chips. I knew that having 85% of the chips gave me an awesome advantage (as she said) but I knew she is a far better poker player than I am. yes... I hate to admit it but at one point she had more chips than I did. she came back to about 60% of the chips. I knew I was still in it, played tighter, smarter, eventually came back to win it all. That was just the weirdest tournament of poker ever, because from the beginning all I wanted to do was get to leave, and I end up winning first again.

10/27/2006 1:42:43 PM

wow, you play 30 hours straight for some of your sessions?

Is that when you head up to AC so you can get as much time in as possible?

10/27/2006 1:43:21 PM

fuck...i love poker, but I could never do 30 hours straight. without sleep my game would suck ass

10/27/2006 1:46:14 PM

You never know what you're capable of until you go to a casino. They have ways of keeping you awake.

10/27/2006 1:55:26 PM

So, are you expected to tip the dealer ON TOP of the rake? Because the rake is generally used to pay their wages. When Jamie Gold left a HUGE tip for the dealers, he was told not to because they were paid so nicely.

Are players at the cheapy tables expected to tip dealers often too?

10/27/2006 2:13:19 PM

Quote :

"You never know what you're capable of until you go to a casino. They have ways of keeping you awake."

It really is amazing. I could never do anything like that playing online. Id kill something.

It never really hits me as being tired till I get into the car to drive home.

Two fridays ago I had a nice 38 hour session.


NoidRoid and I had one of the most ridiculous trips Ive ever had when i was living in Richmond summer of 2005.

We decide to up and go, he gets in his car, drives through a hurricane up 95, taking somehting riduculous like 6 or 7 hours to get to richmond from raleigh, we got nailed a couple of times in traffic around dc going up to ac from richmond, effectively doubling the time it would take to get there... make it there by 10 am on a friday, after him having left raleigh after working all day at like 7pm the night before. played till like 6 pm or so, drove to absecon for a holiday inn, slept til like 9pm friday, went back, played till like 2 am sunday, back to the holiday inn, slept till ~7 am, went to borgata, played till about 7pm, drove back home to RVA/RDU respectively.

it was absurd. thursday ->sunday night with like 8 hours sleep.

another trip, jonnySim and I flew up to philly one morning, took the trian to 30th street, hopped the train to ac, didnt have a room for that night, and had to play till ~ 5pm the next day.

he built a tower of white chips around him at a 4/8 table where he could take a nap and the dealer wouldnt see him. she kept poking him however to wake up. ahahahahah

10/27/2006 2:15:21 PM

Tournament dealers != Cash game dealers.

I tip cash games dealers, but not on every single pot, especially if its a small one. No way I tip for stealing the blinds, sorry.

10/27/2006 2:17:55 PM