I think Charlie Hegedus might be one of most important pick-ups of this class:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UTO1fI9gbMY

2/1/2012 1:24:38 PM

Robert Caldwell went to some high school called "College of the Desert"

2/1/2012 1:28:11 PM

The fighting Cacti

2/1/2012 1:29:20 PM

I think it's a Jr college. I think he committed to us a few years ago and found out he had to go to JUCO. but he got looks from some other schools out west and back east.


^^^ dude's pretty fly for a white guy.

[Edited on February 1, 2012 at 1:33 PM. Reason : s]

2/1/2012 1:30:34 PM

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"@jbrick Amato tried to put together a good team. Quit knocking a former coach and alum for trying to put together a solid squad. Knock Butch Davis all you want but don't fucking group Amato with Butch because they are NOTHING alike. That just makes you look stupid."

Only difference between Amato and Butch is that Amato didn't cheat to get the players here...that we know of. That's not a knock on Amato, because I think that shit goes on everywhere.

But Amato chased stars and skill players. We had killer running backs, WRs, and blazing DBs while he was here. But we couldn't protect the QB for shit and had many other highly rated players that fell well short of their hype. With Amato, hype came first. He eventually FAILED at putting together good teams. He was blessed with Rivers or else I doubt he would have lasted even close to as long as he did.

And you look stupid for defending a guy just because he was an alum. If you can't cut it, you can't cut it...I don't care where you went to school. These guys get paid too much to get cut any slack. Good luck to Amato and Lowe, but thank god they aren't here anymore.

2/1/2012 1:34:28 PM

Nice story about Owino:

http://www.gopack.com/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/020112aao.html

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"In Sanderson's first scrimmage against Harnett Central, Owino tallied six sacks and another tackle. Much to his amazement, he went from not knowing how to even put on his uniform, to being recruited by major college programs.... Owino says he chose NC State "because I felt it is the best place for me and I can feel the red and white in my blood." "

2/1/2012 1:41:08 PM

Is he talking about blood cells?

2/1/2012 1:44:20 PM

2/1/2012 1:46:37 PM

^, ^^ that was actually pretty funny

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" i dunno if they were updating them at the same time 10 minutes ago, or if Chrome is stupid"

also, this happened for me earlier when I clicked on NC State's list. They must just be lagging today. I'm also on chrome though, maybe thats it

[Edited on February 1, 2012 at 1:53 PM. Reason : chrome]

2/1/2012 1:50:47 PM

2/1/2012 1:54:22 PM

That pic would be sweet if someone could put like some wolf eyes in the back and slight outline like it was a cave or something.

2/1/2012 1:59:46 PM

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"And you look stupid for defending a guy just because he was an alum."

Seriously, I don't know where to begin with this.

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"He eventually FAILED at putting together good teams."

Amato had 2 losing seasons out of 7. He won 4 bowls during that time. To me, you have to be a good team to win bowl games.

He did have a hard time beating Carolina which got him in trouble with the fanbase but overall won some big games. He helped build the facilities that currently help recruit our players TODAY. He tried to get big talent and succeeded (sort of) but couldn't control them. He is no where near the character of a person like Butch Davis. He didn't try to steal recruits from other schools after they committed (that I know of). He didn't commit NCAA violation after violation and he did a lot of good things for this university THE RIGHT WAY. The fact that you are comparing him to Lowe, who's career record as a coach at State was 86-78, is mind blowing. Lowe never EVER had a winning ACC record or an NCAA tournament appearance. Lowe had 1 highly-touted recruiting class and could not train/coach them properly to be a winning team. Lowe was a disappointment but that's as far as I will take it. I don't need to take to the internet and trash former coaches to make myself feel better. We have enough dumb ass fans that do that for us on packpride.

Bottom line is Amato did a lot of good things for the university and should be, at the very least, remembered for being a decent coach that helped the program get back on its feet.

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"I think Charlie Hegedus might be one of most important pick-ups of this class"

He has legit 4.4 speed and should definitely be a valuable recruit.

[Edited on February 1, 2012 at 2:58 PM. Reason : http://rivals.yahoo.com/footballrecruiting/football/recruiting/player-Charlie-Hegedus-117719]

2/1/2012 2:46:34 PM

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"Amato had 2 losing seasons out of 7. He won 4 bowls during that time. To me, you have to be a good team have Philip Rivers as your quarterback to win bowl games."

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"Bottom line is Amato did a lot of good things for the university and should be, at the very least, remembered for being a decent coach that helped the program get back on its feet for two years yet fall right back to where it was when he got here."

[Edited on February 1, 2012 at 3:17 PM. Reason : .]

2/1/2012 3:16:33 PM

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"He didn't try to steal recruits from other schools after they committed (that I know of). "

As good as a recruiter as Amato was for us, he was slimy and very underhanded.
I'd have to look up the article again, but the best example I remember was that they set up a meeting with a high school to check out one recruit, but when they went there they completely ignored that kid and went after a 5 star who the coach designated as off-limits since he had already committed somewhere. He was banned from that HS afterwards.

2/1/2012 3:28:58 PM

Lols from the Owino story ... talking about the biggest difference in Kenya and Raleigh

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" "I much like the way people drive cars over here," he laughs. "It is much more organized here." "

I think this exact same thing anytime I'm in another country

2/1/2012 3:31:52 PM

Also less AIDS

2/1/2012 3:40:10 PM

^^ You should definitely get some kind of medal for having successfully driven in Egypt without serious injury.

2/1/2012 4:18:40 PM

we've actually got 4 sets of high school teamates in this class

2/1/2012 5:22:51 PM

From Owino interview:

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"I was having a hard time, knowing the rules about the facemask. But in about a week I knew how to get off the ball." "

LOL, maybe UNC's players would have benefited from this training...

[Edited on February 1, 2012 at 6:40 PM. Reason : .]

2/1/2012 6:40:22 PM

can someone with an ESPN insider account copy and paste the NCSU section of this article? I can't read past FSU
http://insider.espn.go.com/college-sports/recruiting/football/story?id=7529329&_slug_=fsu-highlights-year-acc&action=upsell&appRedirect=http%3a%2f%2finsider.espn.go.com%2fcollege-sports%2frecruiting%2ffootball%2fstory%3fid%3d7529329%26_slug_%3dfsu-highlights-year-acc

2/2/2012 10:53:39 AM

That's called stealing.

2/2/2012 11:19:16 AM

That's called stealing sharing.

2/2/2012 11:45:08 AM

We got a C+

Top prospect: Kenderius Whitehead (Lithonia, Ga./Martin Luther King), a DE/OLB hybrid, has the quickness off the ball and edge-rushing ability to contribute early in certain packages.

Breakdown: NC State lacks an ESPNU 150 prospect, but coach Tom O'Brien has proved throughout his career that he can build programs without them. The Wolfpack addressed needs up front defensively with Whitehead and fellow 6-foot-4 rangy end Tyler Knox (Myrtle Beach, S.C./Myrtle Beach). Also keep an eye on Jarnor Jones (Lithonia, Ga./Martin Luther), who is a high-upside guy and could develop at safety or linebacker. The line and secondary were needs that were met, but this class lacks a significant quarterback to develop.

2/2/2012 11:50:20 AM

have they not watched QB Manny Stocker's HighLiGHT video? I think he might be a good one.

Also, what about this guy?



[Edited on February 2, 2012 at 11:56 AM. Reason : ]

2/2/2012 11:55:53 AM

I'm excited about that guy. That's what.

Apparently Bible had a man crush on him but he felt like he wanted to stay out west when he made his decision. We'll see how it plays out.

2/2/2012 1:17:33 PM

Jarnor Jones and Kenderius Whitehead

2/2/2012 3:59:13 PM

WHITE


HEAD

2/2/2012 4:01:05 PM

SWEET CAKE

2/2/2012 4:02:26 PM

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"^^ You should definitely get some kind of medal for having successfully driven in Egypt without serious injury."

where do i apply for my medal?

Did anyone hear Fedora talking about their recruitment of Junior Gnonkonde? Basically, he came to the US for an international basketball tournament, and he and a few other teammates just stayed, didn't get on the plane I think that's an immigration offense. #gavingrant

But the best part was when he said: "He spoke African or something". :thatsracist:

2/2/2012 4:05:26 PM

I now want cake too - thanks guys

2/2/2012 4:05:44 PM

^^It's Swahili. Like Owino.

2/2/2012 4:24:01 PM

Don't tell us Bullet, tell mr. hat.

2/2/2012 6:18:52 PM

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"Under-the-radar class: NC State. Tom O'Brien said he's bringing in a "whole different breed" of pass-rushers, and that "we're finally getting to look like our guys did at Boston College, the guys that are still playing in the Super Bowl this weekend." It's not a flashy class, but it will make NC State better, and the Wolfpack are already a team worth watching in the 2012 ACC race."

-dinich

2/2/2012 7:31:47 PM

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"Growing up, Summers was a fan of UNC in basketball and a fan of NC State in football. That’s no longer the case."

from an article on how Summers switched. We really need to have both sports in the top 25 consistently. that's how you pull in the in=State guys that grew up watch college sports. if he would have been a State Bball fan no way he goes to UNCheat.

2/2/2012 8:47:44 PM

Fuck summers and his motherfucking momma

2/2/2012 10:11:05 PM

Very mature of you

2/2/2012 10:30:57 PM

Lol its from tupac's hit em up

2/2/2012 10:41:16 PM

Are we actually good at protecting the QBs (in addition to run blocking)? Our guys get sacked a lot.

Chuckles brought in quite a few OL who played in the NFL - more than TOB while he has been here. We all know the defensive lines were good, too. It wasn't just skill players that he was good at recruiting.

Chuck's problems were staff turnover and not finding a Rivers replacement soon enough, which he did eventually in Wilson.

2/2/2012 10:42:50 PM

^Staff turnover was the main issue. It hurts 3 fold new systems, rapport with players, and recruiting.

2/2/2012 10:55:37 PM

I wish we couldve kept Norm Chow forever

For.....evvvv....er

2/2/2012 10:57:53 PM

agree

2/3/2012 12:21:03 AM

HC: Cowher
OC: Chow
DC: Amato
ST/Strength Coach/Head of Recruiting: Ditka

2/3/2012 1:20:07 AM

Hope Summers enjoys not playing in a bowl game

2/3/2012 8:16:17 AM

Summers wasn't going to get a fair shake that QB here, and he didn't like the honesty. They will tell him what he wants to here at UNC. Nothing more to it. It's not a big loss imo.

2/3/2012 8:19:26 AM

Where is everyone getting the "he wouldn't get a fair shake at QB" from? I have a PP account and I hadn't seen that from the Moderators, was there something he said about not getting a fair shot?

2/3/2012 8:31:33 AM

He's extremely gullible if he thinks hes going to get a fair shake at QB there either

2/3/2012 8:51:02 AM

If you just look at QB depth, though, he probably does have a better chance there. They've got Renner, Williams, the other new guy, and him. And they're switching to a spread offense, so everyone is gonna be starting fresh.

We've got Glennon, Brosius, Taylor, and Stocker. And we're set up with our offense, so those guys (except Stocker) have experience in the offense over him.

So he could play earlier, although when you;re a QB that's not really a good position for a team to be in (starting a freshman QB).


Of course there's the whole NCAA thing, which overrules the whole depth issue as far as I care, but in terms of numbers, he's got less competition there.

2/3/2012 9:09:37 AM

^you're also forgetting pete thomas, who committed about the same time summers decomitted. Thomas was a 4* qb coming out of hs, with two years starting experience under his belt a csu (and holds the record for pass completions for a true freshman, over one of the mannings). he'll be redshirting this year, but very well could be our starting qb for two years after that.

[Edited on February 3, 2012 at 9:16 AM. Reason : ]

2/3/2012 9:15:11 AM

Coach O'Brien seems really high on him already. I could definitely see him starting. Sorta sucks for Brosius, but that's life for ya.

2/3/2012 9:17:49 AM

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"Speculation: TOB+staff preferred a more mature QB with starting experience (thomas) to a young, unproven alternative with arguably more raw talent (summers)"

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"Summers wasn't going to get a fair shake that QB here, and he didn't like the honesty. "

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"^you're also forgetting pete thomas, who committed about the same time summers decomitted. Thomas was a 4* qb coming out of hs, with two years starting experience under his belt a csu (and holds the record for pass completions for a true freshman, over one of the mannings). he'll be redshirting this year, but very well could be our starting qb for two years after that."

right now, its definitely sad to see an athlete like summer leave us to go to UNCcheat. but ya gotta give this staff credit for long term decision making. e.g. - 9 months ago almost all of us thought that letting RW go was bad for long&short term. I think few would argue the long part now after seeing the team gel around MG at the end of the season.

2/3/2012 2:08:20 PM