I would support the idea

12/31/2024 10:16:02 AM

I’m just glad he has a sterling résumé

12/31/2024 11:17:01 AM

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"DJ Eliot and Freddie Aughtry-Lindsay will serve as co-DCs. Safeties coach Joe DeForest announces his retirement and FAL will take that position over."

Hnmmm

12/31/2024 11:50:05 AM

We seem to really like keeping Kurt Roper around for some reason... from QB coach in 2019 to RB 2020-22, back to QBs and to OC. He has been an OC before, at Duke (2008-2013) and Florida (2014), as well as a co-OC at South Carolina (2016-17), but does anyone really know what he does style-wise anymore? Of all our asst. coaches I think I hear the least about him year-to-year.

12/31/2024 12:09:25 PM

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"We seem to really like keeping Kurt Roper around for some reason"

apparently Bailey was recruited by him and wanted him as OC.

He runs a LOT of bubble screens. He's a quick out guy. Reminds me of another screen happy OC we have had...

12/31/2024 12:17:12 PM

Rumor over on the Bright Leaf hotdog forums is that Bailey originally told Dave that he "better hire Jim Harbaugh as OC or he was gonna transfer", but Dave told him "no". Then Bailey said, "okay well how about coach Roper?". Then Dave said, "I'll hire coach Roper under one condition CJ". Then Bailey said, "what's that coach?". Then Dave said, "I'll hire coach Roper if you bring in Jeremiah Smith". Then Bailey said, "okay coach I'll see what I can do". Then Dave said, "thank you CJ, I appreciate you, now get out of my office". Then Bailey said, "okay coach see ya later"

12/31/2024 4:33:37 PM

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"Former UNC associate head coach and DBs coach Charlton Warren will join the NC State staff, replacing Freddie Aughtry-Lindsay as the co-DC."

Wonder if this helps explain why all our db's transfer out of the blue

1/9/2025 9:43:02 AM

I guess FAL was pissed he didn't get the DC job? Weird of him to accept a promotion and then leave like a week later. But yeah having 2 secondary coaches leave (him + deforest) does help explain 4 secondary players portalling.

1/9/2025 10:55:57 AM

Joe Gigolo said on a podcast there's rumors this is DD's last season, he's going retire

3/31/2025 5:45:10 PM

Prob making room for Jon gruden and bill cowher

[Edited on March 31, 2025 at 7:18 PM. Reason : D]

3/31/2025 7:18:45 PM

^^ I mean, I believe it. Least inspiring asst coach hires in years. Plus he's said time and again he wants to retire at 55 -- end of this year puts him at 54.

4/1/2025 8:07:46 AM

Even Dave, incompetent as he is, is perceptive enough to see after what happened to Keatts that his ride on the gravy train is coming to an end.

4/1/2025 9:04:28 AM

Incompetent? He's one of the best football coaches NC State has ever had.

4/1/2025 10:19:33 AM

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" there's rumors this is DD's last season, he's going retire"

Same for Avent.


Two years is what I've always been told. Not after this season but next. Could change but I haven't seen any moves to indicate such.



I'll be thrilled to see DD retire. Then we can hire Dan Mullen and finally return to glory!

jk we are a basketball school, football just pays the bills.

4/1/2025 1:48:23 PM

It shouldn't be difficult to find a coach who can beat Wake, BC, and Syracuse consistently, which would be a step up from Dave.

4/1/2025 3:18:36 PM

We've literally never had a coach that could do that though, so I guess it's not that easy.

4/1/2025 3:30:37 PM

[wrong]

4/1/2025 3:50:38 PM

We have had a coach that could beat Wake, but not since 2000. Maybe we should have kept Mike OCain!

Doeren and TOB the only state coaches to play BC more than twice in a row and neither won consistently.

Doeren is the only coach to play Cuse more than two years in a row. (ocain won twice in a row!)

4/1/2025 4:21:14 PM

I think you're taking it too literal by being restricted to the teams he mentioned.

I took it as him saying small schools that should be easy to beat consistently in conference SUCH AS wake, syracuse, etc

4/1/2025 4:26:01 PM

Apologies for addressing the situation stated instead of the one in your head.

4/1/2025 4:44:08 PM

^It's not his fault that you are infected with the incurable Woke Mind Virus (WMV) and cannot follow his higher-level thought processes.

4/1/2025 4:54:43 PM

What era of Pack football are yall pining for where we experienced more and higher level of consistency than what DD has provided?

4/1/2025 4:58:57 PM

The one where we actually won bowl games and could beat ranked opponents here and there.

I will concede he consistently handles LA Tech and Gardner-Webb year in and year out. Credit where credit is due.

[Edited on April 1, 2025 at 6:49 PM. Reason : ]

4/1/2025 6:32:23 PM

So we’d beat #7 FSU but lose to BC the next week? That’s my memories of past eras/coaches at State that have more upset/big wins than DD. I think it’s fine to want more high end wins/moments. DD hasn’t delivered many of those. But I think it’s a bit revisionist to think there was an era where we’d 1) beat ranked opponents semi-regularly, 2) not lose to basement dwellers of the conference, 3) win bowl games. That era of State football hasn’t really existed in my life outside of a couple seasons here or there. In fact, a couple of DDs 9 win seasons are the closest we’ve come to that i feel like.

I thought the knock on DD was always that he beat bad teams in the conference but never punched above his weight. Now we’re saying he doesn’t beat the bad teams or the good teams. I just don’t think that’s the reality.

4/1/2025 7:17:36 PM

What is his biggest win?

My problem is he inflates his record with a ton of cupcakes and can barely beat them.

4/2/2025 3:17:20 PM

What is nc state footballs biggest win in the last 50 years?

4/2/2025 4:44:14 PM

^^Probably #9 Clemson in 2020 or the back-to-back-to-back wins over Drake Maye's UNC from 2021-2024 (they were ranked #17 for one of those).

^ Probably Phillip Rivers smashing Notre Dame in the Gator Bowl.

I for one think its unfortunate if he really is going to retire this early. Excluding last year, he's been on a decent run the last 5 years. If this year is down again, then sure, maybe that points to a decline. But good coaches have down years and he's actually fairly young. What if 6 wins is his new floor? Last year had some serious personnel and staff whiffs. But they've made moves to address it.

20 years ago, if you told me we were gonna hire a guy that wins 80% of the time vs UNC, cranks out 8/9 win seasons, and comes within 1 game of the ACC title game every few years, I'd have taken it in a heart beat.

And he's done all of this while stuck in a division with a dynastic Clemson program, and an FSU team that, in Doeren's ~12 years here, racked up 6x more double digit win seasons than we have in the history of our program.

Give him a few more years and I think there's a good chance he has us competing for ACC championships every few years rather than just sniffing them.

[Edited on April 2, 2025 at 5:05 PM. Reason : ^]

4/2/2025 5:03:37 PM

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" My problem is he inflates his record with a ton of cupcakes and can barely beat them."

What are our “big” OOC games under any coach since the Ohio State series 20+ years ago. A couple of one off games in Charlotte or Atlanta vs SCar or Tenn? I don’t think the “cupcake schedule” thing is unique to DD. We play 1 FCS every year. 2 G5 level teams. And 1 P4 team. That’s basically the formula we’ve been using for several years now. It’s the formula most programs schedule by too. I guess he had some weak schedules if you go back 9 years ago when he first got here.

What big time opponents was TOB or Chuck scheduling that DD isn’t?

I still think his biggest win is beating Lamar and Louisville on Thursday night. But the Clemson one would be up there

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"20 years ago, if you told me we were gonna hire a guy that wins 80% of the time vs UNC, cranks out 8/9 win seasons, and comes within 1 game of the ACC title game every few years, I'd have taken it in a heart beat. "

Yes i agree with this. I think there’s a loud portion of our fan base that would rather go 7-5 if it included a win over a top 10 team than go 9-3 with 0 wins over top 10 teams.

4/2/2025 6:33:59 PM

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"Give him a few more years and I think there's a good chance he has us competing for ACC championships every few years rather than just sniffing them."

Nah. How many more years does he need!? 10? 15?

[Edited on April 2, 2025 at 6:35 PM. Reason : #]

4/2/2025 6:33:59 PM

I don’t think we’re going to ever seriously and regularly compete for ACC titles as long as Clemson and FSU and Miami are spending so big in football. we can certainly be in position to strike when any of those teams has a down year.

It’s similar to the basketball discussions we’ve had. We aren’t spending any where near the top of the conference. So expecting to win and compete at the top of the conference is probably a misguided expectation. Sounds like we’re investing heavier in basketball, which is great. But probably means some of the NIL and/or rev share is coming away from football.

4/2/2025 7:18:52 PM

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"Give him a few more years and I think there's a good chance he has us competing for ACC championships every few years"

[Edited on April 3, 2025 at 2:25 PM. Reason : f]

4/3/2025 2:21:42 PM

^ It isn't much of a stretch to say we already are doing that. We've missed the ACC championship game by 4 points in 2 of the last 4 seasons.


42-45 loss to Wake Forest in 2021-22. Wake Forest wins the Atlantic one game ahead of us.
10-13 loss to Lousiville in 2023-24. No more divisions, so Louisville takes second place one game ahead of us.

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"I don’t think we’re going to ever seriously and regularly compete for ACC titles as long as Clemson and FSU and Miami are spending so big in football. we can certainly be in position to strike when any of those teams has a down year."

Yeah, I agree with this. I'm not saying he's gonna have us appearing in the championship game every year but that he is going to keep us in the conversation in November more years than not. And with the divisions busted up now, we will have a much easier path to the championship game in some years. I'm pretty sure there have been multiple years where we would have walked into the championship game if we had been in the Coastal. Clemson/FSU would have still curb-stomped us some of those years, but every now and then they were beatable.

[Edited on April 3, 2025 at 3:13 PM. Reason : 23-24 not 22-23]

4/3/2025 3:01:47 PM