DivaBaby19 Davidbaby19 45208 Posts user info edit post |
I would gladly write a letter.
This makes me want to chat with all these judges I've assisted in getting elected and let them know that if they even try to pull some Gessner shit I will flame them for life.
[Edited on May 5, 2011 at 5:02 PM. Reason : FUCK people are chatting about "circumstantial evidence" here at the office and I wanna yell] 5/5/2011 5:01:56 PM |
Stein All American 19842 Posts user info edit post |
It's really awkward reading that note since it's a good friend of mine's father and I couldn't disagree more with pretty much all of it. 5/5/2011 5:02:26 PM |
BIGswoll187 All American 3729 Posts user info edit post |
what evidence, i could have found as much "evidence" blindfolded 5/5/2011 5:02:58 PM |
ThePeter TWW CHAMPION 37709 Posts user info edit post |
I'm glad I don't live in Cary, good riddance 5/5/2011 5:03:16 PM |
El Nachó special helper 16370 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "its was put in the form of a question to the dad. "No winters here?" and he said something like "yes, no winters, thats well put" " |
I mean...you're wrong here. but whatever.5/5/2011 5:03:55 PM |
Stein All American 19842 Posts user info edit post |
Hooray for being like half a mile right outside the Cary border. 5/5/2011 5:04:06 PM |
BigMan157 no u 103354 Posts user info edit post |
i think the next time I get jury duty I might actually go instead of getting out of it
i didn't realize it was this bad 5/5/2011 5:04:25 PM |
Elwood All American 4085 Posts user info edit post |
I'm moving tomorrow God forbid someone in my neighborhood gets murdered. 5/5/2011 5:04:28 PM |
jackleg All American 170957 Posts user info edit post |
These are people who make a living off sending the truth to go die. Do you REALLY think a letter will do anything? I mean, it may make YOU feel better to get those feelings onto paper.
But if you want something to change, it's gonna take a revolution. A real one, not a twitter one. Whenever you hear some redneck say "give him the chair" while watching a news clip about a guy suspected of murder, slap that redneck. Slap people. Berate people in public. Call the police on their kids.
until people get a taste of this shit, they: a) would never believe it b) couldn't fathom how bad it tastes 5/5/2011 5:05:42 PM |
El Nachó special helper 16370 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "i think the next time I get jury duty I might actually go instead of getting out of it
i didn't realize it was this bad" |
I honestly think that the first thing that any halfway decent prosecutor would do is get rid of anyone in the jury pool that looks even remotely intelligent. Seems like the bulk of the job is just to select a bunch of sheep and then herd them where you want them to go.5/5/2011 5:07:47 PM |
Skack All American 31140 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "i think the next time I get jury duty I might actually go instead of getting out of it
i didn't realize it was this bad" |
Yeah for real.5/5/2011 5:08:13 PM |
Beethoven86 All American 3001 Posts user info edit post |
I am questioning why I became a lawyer. This system is broken, and I'm not sure if can ever be fixed. 5/5/2011 5:08:27 PM |
BigMan157 no u 103354 Posts user info edit post |
no worries buddy, I generally look derp as hell 5/5/2011 5:08:45 PM |
Joie begonias is my boo 22491 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "they had the nerve to send a note asking the defense to wrap it up so they could leave, then they got the case, took a nice long lunch, sent a man to prison for life, and called it a day." |
5/5/2011 5:08:52 PM |
Exiled Eyes up here ^^ 5918 Posts user info edit post |
It should be a requirement in big/important cases like this for a jury to defend or back up their reasonings for their rulings...I'd love to hear what that'd be
[Edited on May 5, 2011 at 5:11 PM. Reason : derp] 5/5/2011 5:09:19 PM |
jackleg All American 170957 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "no worries buddy, I generally look derp as hell" |
lol i also dumb myself down when i venture out among the common man. tourist hats at the grocery store is my newest thing.
^as someone who loves observing the justice system at work, i'd LOVE to read a report stating just what the fuck they were thinking -- but I can't agree that it should be mandatory. even morons deserve the right to keep their thoughts to themselves
[Edited on May 5, 2011 at 5:13 PM. Reason : added a ^]5/5/2011 5:10:50 PM |
sparky Garage Mod 12301 Posts user info edit post |
i am completely and utterly disgusted by this verdict and it scares the hell out of me that some one could be convicted of murder with no physical evidence at all. i am astounded!! 5/5/2011 5:12:40 PM |
Elwood All American 4085 Posts user info edit post |
I don't guess the Defense has issued any statements.
also what was up with the Judge almost...well he did break down and holding back tears??? 5/5/2011 5:14:22 PM |
Exiled Eyes up here ^^ 5918 Posts user info edit post |
I'm scared to lurk over to websluts right now 5/5/2011 5:14:30 PM |
jackleg All American 170957 Posts user info edit post |
i have this habit on weekends of reading local news from other parts of the country... the WRAL.com of denver, shit like that.
people get railroaded like that all the time. but there's also that other side, where people shoot at their neighbors and get lower bond than someone who made a profane phone call 5/5/2011 5:15:50 PM |
JT3bucky All American 23258 Posts user info edit post |
how long might the appeals process take to get back to another trial? 5/5/2011 5:16:03 PM |
jbtilley All American 12797 Posts user info edit post |
Assuming BC didn't do it... you've really got to feel for the guy.
She spent all his money She slept around on him... likely with a dozen or more people She made him raise a kid that wasn't his And finally he goes to jail for killing her when he didn't even do it 5/5/2011 5:16:35 PM |
Beethoven86 All American 3001 Posts user info edit post |
Two years. 5/5/2011 5:16:52 PM |
rbrthwrd Suspended 3125 Posts user info edit post |
you all may have seen my parking thread, how i tracked down people and wrote emails, letters, and made phone calls to get a sign changed. that was for something i barely had an opinion about.
this shit is a travesty, if anyone can give me some guidance on where to send formal complaints for stuff like this i need to vent onto some paper.
anyone know? 5/5/2011 5:17:01 PM |
Beethoven86 All American 3001 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | " Judicial Standards Commission P.O. Box 1122 Raleigh, North Carolina 27602
Telephone 919-831-3630 Fax 919-831-3637 " |
[Edited on May 5, 2011 at 5:18 PM. Reason : ]5/5/2011 5:17:58 PM |
hey now Indianapolis Jones 14975 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Assuming BC didn't do it... you've really got to feel for the guy.
She spent all his money She slept around on him... likely with a dozen or more people She made him raise a kid that wasn't his And finally he goes to jail for killing her when he didn't even do it" |
At least he knows she's dead.5/5/2011 5:19:47 PM |
ScubaSteve All American 5523 Posts user info edit post |
I would say a court tv or news place that didn't seem to be trying to convict via the press.. But idk 5/5/2011 5:20:58 PM |
Elwood All American 4085 Posts user info edit post |
NC probably killed her Twin and pulled the ole switcheroo, and now she has her kids, insurance money, and flying home to bang Canadian dudes.
[Edited on May 5, 2011 at 5:23 PM. Reason : f] 5/5/2011 5:22:42 PM |
jackleg All American 170957 Posts user info edit post |
i'll ask my brother what he thinks (regarding how long).
he regularly reads those appellate briefs from start to finish, tons of them. his fascination is with the actual legislation and how it is written and interpreted by the different courts. it is pretty neat, but i couldn't do it.
we watched some of the trial together, and he was pointing out every potential argument for the defense if an appeal was needed.
i can see it getting by a jury, but i have a lot of faith that he will get a new trial. not that a new set of 12 average wake county citizens will help him much... 5/5/2011 5:22:51 PM |
Stein All American 19842 Posts user info edit post |
What we need is an inverse Nancy Grace. 5/5/2011 5:23:00 PM |
ncsuapex SpaceForRent 37776 Posts user info edit post |
Why did they convict Brad Cooper? We ALL know it was that Cupper guy. 5/5/2011 5:23:53 PM |
Beethoven86 All American 3001 Posts user info edit post |
Probably 18-24 months for an appeal. It takes a very long time to get a trial transcript. 5/5/2011 5:24:02 PM |
jbtilley All American 12797 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "NC probably killed her Twin and pulled the ole switcheroo, and now she has her kids, insurance money, and flying home to bang Canadian dudes. " |
5/5/2011 5:24:48 PM |
jackleg All American 170957 Posts user info edit post |
wow, is the transcript the major hold-up? i never really thought about it though. 5/5/2011 5:25:17 PM |
Beethoven86 All American 3001 Posts user info edit post |
10 weeks of transcript that's done by hand! 5/5/2011 5:26:25 PM |
ScubaSteve All American 5523 Posts user info edit post |
Man after this appeal BC can get $$$$$$$ right? 5/5/2011 5:26:39 PM |
raiden All American 10505 Posts user info edit post |
Jesus this is fucked. I hope that Thr friends, family, etc of the jury ridcule them constantly. 5/5/2011 5:28:37 PM |
Beethoven86 All American 3001 Posts user info edit post |
The jury is going to go home, read all the evidence they weren't allowed to see, and realize how big they screwed up. 5/5/2011 5:29:12 PM |
A Tanzarian drip drip boom 10995 Posts user info edit post |
a conviction >>>> the right conviction 5/5/2011 5:31:26 PM |
jbtilley All American 12797 Posts user info edit post |
^^Pretty sure that of the half of the jurors that can actually read half of them will never look back. They don't strike me as a group that likes to stay informed about things.
[Edited on May 5, 2011 at 5:32 PM. Reason : -] 5/5/2011 5:31:51 PM |
ScubaSteve All American 5523 Posts user info edit post |
^^^ that is assuming they can read...
[Edited on May 5, 2011 at 5:33 PM. Reason : Slow onthe iPod touch ] 5/5/2011 5:31:56 PM |
Beethoven86 All American 3001 Posts user info edit post |
Oh, I think they already feel it. There were several who were crying (including one of the men) as they were asked to confirm their vote. 5/5/2011 5:32:33 PM |
DivaBaby19 Davidbaby19 45208 Posts user info edit post |
well Judge I'LL ALLOW IT was crying because he knew his future is fucked because of this trial 5/5/2011 5:33:40 PM |
jbtilley All American 12797 Posts user info edit post |
Just trying to think... if I were on the jury and I had 11 people against me, and some even obnoxious and belligerent toward me, how long would I stand my ground. Hopefully ∞ 5/5/2011 5:34:56 PM |
jackleg All American 170957 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Pretty sure of the half of the jurors that can actually read half of them will never look back." |
are you implying that the 6 black ladies on the jury are illiterate? cause i am!
haha just kidding.... but the reverse race card is funny.5/5/2011 5:35:27 PM |
Beethoven86 All American 3001 Posts user info edit post |
I could NEVER have been convinced to vote Guilty. 5/5/2011 5:36:01 PM |
hey now Indianapolis Jones 14975 Posts user info edit post |
5/5/2011 5:36:38 PM |
Joie begonias is my boo 22491 Posts user info edit post |
http://www.amazon.com/Love-Lies-Amanda-Lamb/dp/0425241483
did you see the tags on this? hahahahaha 5/5/2011 5:37:26 PM |
d357r0y3r Jimmies: Unrustled 8198 Posts user info edit post |
What an outrage of a dog and pony show this trial was. Completely unacceptable. 5/5/2011 5:37:36 PM |
ThatGoodLock All American 5697 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | " Since 1986 when now Chief Bazemore joined the Cary Police Department as a patrol officer, our community has seen 19 murders. And with every one that has been brought to trial, the suspect has been convicted. Clearly, our police department has the knowledge, skills, abilities, and resources to solve complex crimes. And many if not most of our police who worked on these cases also worked on the Cooper case as well as the other two murder cases of 2008." |
does this sound right to anybody? what kind of department runs an investigation like this AND has a 100% win rate?
im glad i'm involved with the Innocence Project here at school, it sounds like this is a perfect case even if his appeal is unsuccessful.5/5/2011 5:40:05 PM |