what i thought was amusing was WRAL running a whole segment on people that have been wrongly convicted in the news the night of the conviction

[Edited on May 6, 2011 at 9:58 AM. Reason : i still don't understand the judge's reaction to the verdict either]

5/6/2011 9:58:12 AM

^^^^^ Wow, if that is actually true and not just someone begging for attention (which I don't see as the case since it's in the anonymous confessions thread), that is really really bad. What's worse is the CPD and Town of Cary are putting out these public statement about how great of a job the CPD did. As a Cary resident I question if I can even trust the cops in my town anymore. Corruption, ineptitude and cover-ups of this magnitude are things you see in movies in places like NYC, not in little ol sweet Cary.

^^^^ I've been itching to do the same thing. My daughter has a good friend at school whose mom is a lawyer at the AG's office. I'm sure she has some good scoop on this, I'd like to hear a professional's opinion on the matter. Based on what you said, it sounds like the prosecution convinced Gessner that they had a strong case to present so he was lenient with them as far as trying to give them a fair chance to present damning evidence. I wonder if in hind sight he really regrets some of his I'll allow it's and suppression of testimony, because he just played a major role in costing BC at least 2-3 years of his life.

5/6/2011 10:06:57 AM

Yeah, might as well go ahead and send this one to the Innocence Commission, although I don't know if they do anything with reasonable doubt or only work with proven innocence. Gessner's reaction is confusing but perhaps it may stem from the fact the google map "evidence" was the most damning at the end and he was responsible from preventing the defense expert from refuting it. He bent to the will of the jury to speed up the trial, except he sped up one of the most important aspects of the defense and now someones is convicted of first degree murder. Maybe he was having second thoughts on allowing everything.

5/6/2011 10:07:19 AM

Quote :

""I'm closely connected to the BC murder trial, from the prosecution side. I can honestly say the following: 1. The reason why the prosecution took so long with its case was to wear down the jury so that they would be too exhausted to really pay attention. 2. A portion of the prosecution does not think he did it but were directed to win this case at all cost in order to save face for the police department. 3. The google maps defense didn't stand a chance. The prosecution understood that, in today's climate, jurors, especially black jurors, are likely to believe in setups by the police department. This counter-evidence didn't have a chance of getting admitted. 4. In jury selection the defense had a lot of people they liked but the prosecution asked questions about if they could participate in a "extensively lengthy trial" and this forced those that the defense liked to step down. Had the defense not excused the ones they did the jury would have had 0 men and would have been a mixture of poor black women and very wealthy white women. ""

I'm sorry but if this is true and you don't come forward and help exonerate this man then you need to hang yourself, whoever you are

5/6/2011 10:09:24 AM

uh yeah...

5/6/2011 10:10:59 AM

I wouldnt care if I lost my job, got blackballed, disbarred, whatever. Something like that would make it impossible for me to sleep at night.

5/6/2011 10:13:48 AM

Yeah how do we get things sent to the Innocence Commission?

[Edited on May 6, 2011 at 10:16 AM. Reason : edit]

5/6/2011 10:15:59 AM

It was said that several jury members were crying as the verdict was read. Why?

1) they thought not guilty but were swayed in deliberations?
2)they got emotionally wrapped up on NC side (which would show they based verdict on the emotions of it).
3)^same but bc side which makes me think ^^ was the case.

Also, when has a judge ever done that while reading the verdict.

5/6/2011 10:19:55 AM

Agreed. If I has any kind of info or was in any way remotely close enough to this case to provide the slightest shred of proof that this trial was mishandled, I would get it to the right people at all cost. I was and still am very bothered by the thought of BC sitting in that jail cell for the next 2+ years waiting on an appeal when this trial presented plenty of opportunity to actually prove his guilt or innocence.

Instead you have a handful of unethical lawyers covering up for inept police at the expense of this guy's life. Having two young daughters of my own, I can't come close to imagining how painful and heartbreaking it would be to be stuck in prison without a chance to ever see them. I hope he's exonerated in the appeal and manages to sue the TOC and CPD to the tune of millions.

5/6/2011 10:25:56 AM

It's already been said, but I feel the same way: whoever that was saying that in the anon confessions thread needs to grow a pair and do the right thing, EVEN IF it means losing your job and/or something worse.

I'd hate to have something like that weighing on my conscience....

5/6/2011 10:57:24 AM

I wonder if he is exonerated will he'll be able to get is kids back? as of now NC Twin sis has custody of both of them and they are in Canada.

5/6/2011 11:00:44 AM

Are both of the kids his or do we know?

5/6/2011 11:05:39 AM

PS major lol at NC killing her twin sister conspiracy theory

5/6/2011 11:10:23 AM

^^I don't think we know for sure.

5/6/2011 11:15:21 AM

^^ I feel it will be added in to the directors cut on the DVD based on Amanda Lambs "Love Lies"
http://www.amazon.com/Love-Lies-Amanda-Lamb/dp/0425241483



[Edited on May 6, 2011 at 11:31 AM. Reason : I'll allow it]

5/6/2011 11:29:56 AM

^the tags on that are amazing


"delusional" and "keeping america stupid"

5/6/2011 11:31:53 AM

ahahahahhaha I was one of the people who tagged it!

5/6/2011 11:35:43 AM

Quote :

"It was said that several jury members were crying as the verdict was read. Why? 1) they thought not guilty but were swayed in deliberations? 2)they got emotionally wrapped up on NC side (which would show they based verdict on the emotions of it). 3)^same but bc side which makes me think ^^ was the case. "

The ones crying were the ones who had a hard time voting guilty.

5/6/2011 11:36:41 AM

then they shouldn't have voted guilty.

I'm still all wtf about this.

5/6/2011 11:38:10 AM

Still mad

5/6/2011 11:51:05 AM

get out of here with your well-grounded and reasonable logic, raiden

5/6/2011 11:51:20 AM

from the NC Innocence Commission's website:

http://www.innocencecommission-nc.gov/faq.html

Quote :

"FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS What cases do we take? All of the following criteria must be met before an innocence claim may be investigated: 1. Conviction must have been in a North Carolina state court. N.C. G.S. 15A-1460(1). 2. Conviction must be for a felony. N.C. G.S. 15A-1460(1). 3. Applicant must be a living person. N.C. G.S. 15A-1460(1). 4. Applicant must be claiming complete factual innocence for any criminal responsibility for the crime. N.C. G.S. 15A-1460(1). 5. Credible evidence of innocence must exist. N.C. G.S. 15A-1460(1). 6. Verifiable evidence of innocence must exist. N.C. G.S. 15A-1460(1). 7. Claim must not have been previously heard at trial or in a post-conviction hearing. N.C. G.S. 15A-1460(1). 8. Applicant must sign agreement pursuant to § 15A-1467. Who can initiate a claim? Anyone may initiate a claim. Most claims are initiated by the convicted person, but many come from a friend or a family member of the convicted person. Claims may be initiated by a witness, victim, law enforcement officer, defense attorney, or anyone that has new information about evidence of innocence. Once a claim is initiated, we will contact the convicted person and only pursue the case if they choose to cooperate with us. How do I initiate a claim? There are no specific forms for initiating a claim. We ask that you send us information in writing about the case and the new evidence of innocence. Please be certain to include information about the conviction and the evidence used in supporting that conviction. Detail the new evidence of innocence and how we would be able to look further into that evidence. Be sure to include contact information for yourself and the person that was convicted. We will then contact the convicted person and any other people that are necessary in order to follow up on the claim. How long will it take to process my claim? There is no definite answer. Different cases take different amounts of time to investigate and have evidence tested. Please look at the Case Progression Flowchart to see how the cases are processed. What if there was an error in my trial? The North Carolina Innocence Inquiry Commission was created by the legislature to investigate cases where new evidence of complete factual innocence has emerged since conviction. We do not review technical or procedural trial errors. Please see our North Carolina links page for other organizations that may be able to help you. "

Whoever posted that confession needs to fucking send their shit in.

5/6/2011 11:53:19 AM

Wow, that confession is insane.... unreal

5/6/2011 11:55:20 AM

someone should find out who posted that confession

5/6/2011 11:56:35 AM

and fuck the town of cary, they knew this shit was gonna happen, and that statement ready to go. I'll be they didn't even have a statement prepared if the monkeyfuckingretards on the jury wouldn't have found him guilty.

5/6/2011 11:56:47 AM

^^ SOMEONE already knows

[Edited on May 6, 2011 at 12:01 PM. Reason : .]

5/6/2011 12:01:40 PM

that fucked up confession was here /message_topic.aspx?topic=580984&page=185

they confessed to sawahash

[Edited on May 6, 2011 at 12:04 PM. Reason : link]

5/6/2011 12:03:50 PM

If anyone needs a pitch fork or torch I have extras.

5/6/2011 12:20:33 PM

The Cary police officer deleted me on FB

5/6/2011 1:14:56 PM

The Cary police officer deleted me on FB

[Edited on May 6, 2011 at 1:19 PM. Reason : oops]

5/6/2011 1:18:51 PM

wow, guilty eh?

5/6/2011 1:19:02 PM

what we need is some extra common sense to hand out to these dumbass jurors.

Should've been a mistrial the moment the jurors were all "can you hurry plz, kkthxbbye".

5/6/2011 1:22:41 PM

Quote :

"Should've been a mistrial the moment the jurors were all "can you hurry plz, kkthxbbye"."

this was my thought too

5/6/2011 1:23:47 PM

I officially care about this thread. Would be awesome if TWW got this dude out of prison 4 life

I'm AstralAdvent and i approved this message.

5/6/2011 1:25:22 PM

I was hoping that note meant "we listened to the prosecution ramble incoherently for 3 weeks and after a week or so of the defense we realize this trial is a joke, you've wasted all our time. We don't think he did it. We are ready to vote not guilty so we can get our lives back"

5/6/2011 1:26:29 PM

wasn't it well over 3 weeks for the prosecution?

5/6/2011 1:35:08 PM

they read the note while the court was at ease, so doesn't that mean its not in the record? can they use stuff for an appeal thats not in the record? lawyer input plz

5/6/2011 1:41:45 PM

I just could not sleep well last night, I was so upset.

But I just want to say, every time someone in this thread says, it's all due to the women on the jury, or we never should have gave them the vote, etc it kinda pisses me off. Like I know it's true that women on a jury can be like that but I just wanted to say that I'm not. I'm also pretty damn stubborn so if I know there is reasonable doubt, there is no one in this world who could make me change my vote. I just wouldn't budge.

5/6/2011 1:44:51 PM

tww women are not typical women, which is why they are on tww.

5/6/2011 1:45:52 PM

^^i dont think anyone is saying you are. or ALL women are for that matter.



[Edited on May 6, 2011 at 1:46 PM. Reason : ^hehe]

5/6/2011 1:46:13 PM

most women

5/6/2011 1:47:03 PM

Think they mean black women

5/6/2011 1:50:49 PM

^I'm Black!


[Edited on May 6, 2011 at 2:09 PM. Reason : well my last name is anyways ]

5/6/2011 1:52:02 PM

Anyone see mention of Judge Gessner saying "Cooper got his shit" or something to that effect while on the phone when he thought his microphone was off? I read it on another message board but can't find any confirmations in the news/blogs/etc.

^ racist.

5/6/2011 1:54:42 PM

i blame all women everywhere ಠ_ಠ

5/6/2011 1:54:48 PM

for the confessor:

Quote :

"Kurtz & Blum, PLLC represents Brad Cooper who stands accused of murder in the death of his wife, Nancy Cooper. Brad has consistently and adamantly declared that he is innocent of this horrible crime. If you believe that you may have information that could be relevant to this investigation, we implore you to come forward and speak with us. Please call our offices at (919) 832-7700 and tell the receptionist that you have information about the Cooper investigation. To contact us via email, please use the form on the contact page of our website at http://www.kurtzandblum.com/. Even if you have already spoken with the police, we ask that you share your information with us as well. At least one eyewitness came forward on several occasions to the Cary Police with significant information. She was ignored until, out of frustration with the lack of response, she brought her information to us. Only after we took it to the Cary Police, did they finally take her seriously. We are extremely grateful to those people who have stepped forward. We hope that Brad will be afforded the same dignity and presumption of innocence that each of us would demand for ourselves."

5/6/2011 1:55:55 PM

If the jury came back with a not guilty verdict, this could never be made into a Lifetime special. I think the jury had to pick their battles, here.

5/6/2011 1:56:15 PM

yo qtmnfred, tell us who the confessor is

5/6/2011 1:56:45 PM

Quote :

"So I sat with a lawyer from Raleigh at the Bulls game last night. He's actually personal friends with Gessner. We were talking about the trial, and it was nice to FINALLY talk to someone that was appalled at what happened yesterday. He said Gessner kept telling him the state was going to produce some good evidence over and over....but it never happened. He is also fairly certain (as we all are) that BC will get his appeal and that's where he'll get his justice. He also agreed that BOZ is a huge dick."

this is interesting, is the state and judge supposed to be comparing notes and talking like that

5/6/2011 1:56:56 PM

this sucks. here's to hoping for an appeal and a FAIR trial.

5/6/2011 2:05:10 PM