Well he'd obviously be a collegiate hall of famer if the NFL hadnt been begging so hard for his services.

I mean when you walk onto the field as a freshman and you're instantly the best PLAYER in college football at the most difficult position to learn... that's saying something.


I wouldn't bet on him being a HoFamer in teh NFL because i dont know if he'll be healthy enough, but Im sure no one is doubting that he's talented enough...

11/28/2006 2:19:57 AM

it must suck being michael vick right now

first you got all these people that call you a god

then you start sucking

then the coaches dad thinks you suck

then u flip the bird to a fan after losing for the 3rd straight game

11/28/2006 6:17:31 AM

Vick hasn't made the Pro Bowl yet....GTFO of this thread.

11/28/2006 6:52:32 AM

vick is fucking overrated as hell

similar to jay z, just a different form of entertainment

11/28/2006 6:54:28 AM

Quote :

"Another great game for Vick"

Seriously, this shit has to stop.

11/28/2006 7:54:53 AM

ok, i'm gonna list out the numbers for Vick based on his performance THIS YEAR since it has been stated that he is "ballin out" and having a "Golden God" like year, so here goes...

QB Rating: 72.1 (25th in the league)
Pass Completions: 149 (24th in the league)
Completion %: 51.2 (31th in the league)
Yards: 1770 (24th in the league)
Yards per Attempt: 6.08 (29th in the league)
Touchdowns: 13 (Tied for 11th)
Touchdown %: 4.5 (12th in the league)
Interceptions: 9 (Tied for 15th in the league)
Interception %: 3.1 (20th in the league)
Rushing Yards: 870 (1st among QB's)
Rushing TD's: 2 (4th among QB's, he also has 4 fumbles, 2 of which were lost)

ok, so those numbers aren't too impressive... I'm gonna go ahead and add some of the numbers together because I know that is what you're gonna do, so...

Total Total Yards (passing + rushing): 2640 (would rank around the bottom of the top 10)
Touchdowns: 12 (would rank him around the bottom of the top 10 as well, even if you don't count the turnovers)



ok, PLEASE respond to statistics.... especially you Rally, you have refused to respond to statistics this entire thread.

you promised you wouldn't post here again until he made the pro bowl, so you broke that promise and now you might as well go ahead and break the trend of suckin vick's cock w/out any evidence of his "greatness"... i don't know where you can find it in the numbers he is putting up

[Edited on November 28, 2006 at 9:02 AM. Reason : .]

11/28/2006 9:01:59 AM

do you have a stat for number of dropped passes?

11/28/2006 9:05:17 AM

if you want to compile one for every QB in the NFL and see where Vick ranks, be my quest... but you will find that dropped passes isn't the main problem, every QB deals w/ dropped passes, some more and some less then Vick.... dropped passes doesn't account for him ranking near the bottom of the league in nearly every statistical category other then rushing yards.


he would have to have had like 100 passes dropped, several for touchdowns, to even begin to boost his poor stats up near the top of the league, and that would be assuming that every other QB had NO dropped passes, which is bogus. look how low his averages are, he is ranked 20-30 in almost every category.

[Edited on November 28, 2006 at 9:18 AM. Reason : .]

11/28/2006 9:16:05 AM

he will break the single season rushing record for QB easy

11/28/2006 9:22:43 AM

too bad his rushing isn't resulting in TD's.... or wins

11/28/2006 9:27:46 AM

if you watch that 60 whatever yard run he had, dude needs to be playing RB

he is amazing in the open field

marcus vick for QB, michael vick for RB

11/28/2006 9:30:14 AM

Quote :

"do you have a stat for number of dropped passes?"

NFL - Passes Dropped
Rank Team Passes Dropped

1 Phi 30
2 GB 27
3 Mia 24
4 NO 21
5 NE 20
6 Sea 20
7 TB 20
8 Jac 20
9 Ari 19
10 Cle 18
11 Ind 17
12 Min 16
13 NYG 16
14 Car 16
15 Atl 15
16 Dal 15
17 Ten 15
18 Oak 14
19 Pit 14
20 Was 14
21 KC 13
22 NYJ 13
23 Hou 12
24 Bal 12
25 Den 11
26 SD 11
27 Det 10
28 Cin 8
29 Buf 7
30 Chi 7
31 StL 7
32 SF 6

11/28/2006 4:28:32 PM

Quote :

"Another great game for Vick"

rofl

11/28/2006 5:47:19 PM

Quote :

"too bad his rushing isn't resulting in TD's.... or wins"

/thread.

11/28/2006 5:52:39 PM

Congratulations Vick...the only other starting QB with a 4-game (or more) losing streak is Aaron Brooks and the Raiders

11/28/2006 5:58:58 PM

cousins, indeed

11/29/2006 9:54:48 PM

Quote :

" NFL - Passes Dropped Rank Team Passes Dropped 1 Phi 30 2 GB 27 3 Mia 24 4 NO 21 5 NE 20 6 Sea 20 7 TB 20 8 Jac 20 9 Ari 19 10 Cle 18 11 Ind 17 12 Min 16 13 NYG 16 14 Car 16 15 Atl 15 16 Dal 15 17 Ten 15 18 Oak 14 19 Pit 14 20 Was 14 21 KC 13 22 NYJ 13 23 Hou 12 24 Bal 12 25 Den 11 26 SD 11 27 Det 10 28 Cin 8 29 Buf 7 30 Chi 7 31 StL 7 32 SF 6"

i would like to see this normalized based on passes thrown

11/29/2006 10:36:15 PM

Since you're either too lazy or too stupid:

Team Drop ATT % Drop
Phi 30 395 7.6%
JAC 20 310 6.5%
GB 27 419 6.4%
Mia 24 419 5.7%
Sea 20 353 5.7%
TB 20 365 5.5%
NE 20 367 5.4%
CLE 18 345 5.2%
ATL 15 293 5.1%
NO 21 415 5.1%
ARI 19 394 4.8%
OAK 14 300 4.7%
TEN 15 322 4.7%
IND 17 379 4.5%
NYG 16 363 4.4%
WAS 14 318 4.4%
CAR 16 369 4.3%
KC 13 301 4.3%
DAL 15 349 4.3%
MIN 16 384 4.2%
NYJ 13 319 4.1%
PIT 14 387 3.6%
DEN 11 315 3.5%
BAL 12 362 3.3%
SD 11 335 3.3%
HOU 12 378 3.2%
DET 10 404 2.5%
BUF 7 291 2.4%
CIN 8 356 2.2%
SF 6 300 2.0%
CHI 7 355 2.0%
STL 7 401 1.7%

So basically you can't use it to defend shit.

[Edited on November 29, 2006 at 11:30 PM. Reason : .]

11/29/2006 11:27:46 PM

Vick fans are one of a kind.... every single statistic posted in this thread proves he is not a "Golden God", his win-loss record proves it, his attitude proves it.... what on earth would it take for you guys to actually admit that he isn't as good as you claim???

11/29/2006 11:32:11 PM

their collective ceasing to exist?

11/30/2006 12:38:11 AM

crapler has already dropped two passes that were in his hands. Commentator: if receivers would have not dropped the balls last week, vick would be offensive player of the week

[Edited on December 3, 2006 at 1:29 PM. Reason : sdf]

12/3/2006 1:28:31 PM

GO SKINS

12/3/2006 1:30:40 PM

Quote :

"if receivers would have not dropped the balls last week, vick would be offensive player of the week"

maybe if vick didn't suck so bad he would have be OPoW...

12/3/2006 1:58:16 PM

Another spectacular performance.

This guy just doesnt get enough hype for all the things he does on the field.

His numbers would have been completely outrageous today if his receivers could have held onto the ball.


Brought them back from down 14-0. What a hero

[Edited on December 3, 2006 at 4:35 PM. Reason : a]

12/3/2006 4:35:00 PM

GTFO of this thread rally. The Pro Bowl team has not been announced yet.

BTW..."outstanding performance"??? He barely hit 50% of his passes. And look at the numbers above for "dropped passes."

About 180 yds total offense?? Maybe we should give him a pat on the back for not turning it over at critical times.

[Edited on December 3, 2006 at 4:45 PM. Reason : .]

12/3/2006 4:41:06 PM

amazing, 181 yards against the powerhouse 4-8 'skins

12/3/2006 5:32:45 PM

Quote :

"This guy just doesnt get enough hype "

I should unleash every fucking "O RLY" picture ever created on this tripe. He's pretty much the only hyped/credited player on that team.

12/3/2006 6:08:50 PM

^Any credibility that Rally might have had left in this thread was completely blown out of the water with that statement.

12/4/2006 10:38:58 AM

i was just trying to get you guys riled up with that hype statement.

But seriously, Vick played a hell of a game yesterday.

He just keeps on doing people.

12/4/2006 10:42:36 AM

rally where have you been the past few weeks...gtfo..vick sucks

12/4/2006 10:44:16 AM

He's having a hell of a season to "suck". He's actually got that worthless team still in the playoff race.

Thats more than Eli Manning can do with a good team.

12/4/2006 10:46:22 AM

but eli manning sucks... he is one of the 15 or so qb's in the league who is actually worse then Vick, who is perched right around the middle....

PLEASE PROVIDE SOME STATS TO BACK UP YOUR ASSERTION THAT HE IS HAVING A GOOD YEAR


how come you won't respond to any of the season stats listed in this thread???

12/4/2006 11:34:04 AM

^^if this is a good year for him...then he sucks even worse than i thought

12/4/2006 11:57:47 AM

Quote :

"He's The team has actually got that Vick's worthless team ass still in the playoff race."

12/4/2006 12:06:43 PM

im not a big Vick fan but to be honest, his stats would be a lot better if his receiver could hold onto the damn ball

12/4/2006 12:28:23 PM

read the thread... specific stats for dropped balls have been shown above and the Falcons are about average in the league in dropped passes. under that rational, every other QB i the league would also have much better stats and therefore Vick wouldn't be any better comparatively

12/4/2006 12:55:24 PM

You gotta hand it to Vick for valiantly leading his team back into this playoff race.

Tampa always does a good job of gameplanning for Vick and this Sunday was no different. He wasn't effective running the football but he did a good job of completing passes.

Had Ashley Lelie run the correct route he would have had 1 TD and 0 INT instead of vice versa.

Still a good job to overcome all the controversy and midseason losing streak to get his team back into the thick of things.

12/11/2006 11:45:26 AM

more like tampa just sucks and vick didn't lose the game for atl.

12/11/2006 12:37:56 PM

Quote :

"He's having a hell of a season to "suck". He's actually got that worthless team still in the playoff race."

Exactly. Something that Jake Delhomme can't do with probably a top 5 NFC defense and the top receiver in the NFC. I can't wait to see what these "statistics" people say when Vick beats Carolina again because you know it is going to happen. Panthers fans need to take blinders off and look at how bad their team is and how good it would be with Vick at the helm. Williams/Foster would be so much better.

12/11/2006 12:45:34 PM

^the panthers have a shitload more problems than the QB position...acting like bringing in vick would turn the season around is about as shortsighted as all the other morons on here

Quote :

"Something that Jake Delhomme can't do with probably a top 5 NFC defense and the top receiver in the NFC"

A. our defense is NOT top 5...even in the NFC
B. Delhomme HAS DONE IT 2 OF THE LAST 3 YEARS RETARD

Quote :

"Had Ashley Lelie run the correct route he would have had 1 TD and 0 INT instead of vice versa"

had keyshawn run good routes at the ends of the Cincy and Philly games we would be 8-5 instead of 6-7 durrrrr

12/11/2006 1:12:43 PM

Quote :

"Panthers fans need to take blinders off and look at how bad their team is and how good it would be with Vick at the helm."

oh the irony.

12/11/2006 1:17:44 PM

falcons 7-6
panthers 6-7

OMG!!!11

12/11/2006 1:21:23 PM

Y'all are acting like this Tampa game was unwinnable or something.

12/11/2006 3:57:30 PM

Vick is the fucking man, dude

Just imagine if he had some guys around him besides dunn, that want to ball with him

" " " a defense that wants to ball out and help. He does it all man.

12/11/2006 4:27:48 PM

jesus - it's gotten so bad you have to use a comeback win over tampa bay to point to his greatness?

i always wondered what rock-bottom looked like...guess I saw it live yesterday

12/11/2006 4:39:56 PM

ps the Panthers already beat the Bucs twice this year

and yes I know ATL handled CAR in week 1

point is, you beat the Bucs on a comeback

I'd probably already take Vince Young over Vick

12/11/2006 5:03:00 PM

Another terrific peformace.

He's already turned in a record breaking season and he still has two games to go. He's going to become the first QB ever to eclipse 1,000 rushing yards.


Oh yeah and he tossed another 4 of those TD things that y'all are so enamored with....

He was like half Peyton Manning, half Barry Sanders, half minotaur last night.

12/17/2006 1:08:50 PM

Quote :

"Another terrific peformace. "

hahahaha

get his dick out of the back of your throat.

if youre excited about a QB going to the record books for rushing when his QB rating for the year is mid 70s, his completion record is just at or below 50% for the year, and before an unusually decent performance last night he had thrown 10 interceptions compared to 15 touchdowns for the entire year, then you dont understand a QBs job


[Edited on December 17, 2006 at 1:30 PM. Reason : ]

12/17/2006 1:25:01 PM

Big D

12/17/2006 1:26:31 PM

Quote :

"record breaking season and he still has two games to go. He's going to become the first QB ever to eclipse 1,000 rushing yards."

gee, the 1st QB w/ over 1000 yards? you fucking think? considering the QB rushing record was broken last night with under 1000 yards. are you stupid or were you born retarded?

winners play thru the pain...vick just sat on the sideline as his team lost

12/17/2006 1:29:00 PM