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3/20/2007 10:08:13 PM

Twas a good season

Now all we need to do is get better on defense and we'll be set. Our guys are still young, they'll learn hopefully and we'll have a much deeper bench. I'm looking forward to next year and the next.

Thanks for everything Atsur. You gave us 100% and you'll be missed. Good luck overseas.

3/20/2007 10:08:19 PM

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"Why do WVU's fans suck? I didn't see the game, but my best guess is they are pretty much like any other home crowd and you are just mad cause State lost."

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"I didn't see the game"

there's your problem.. quit assuming.. we say that a lot but this is seriously the time to say it

there was only 2 or 3 calls they didn't boo the whole game

i'm not kidding

[Edited on March 20, 2007 at 10:08 PM. Reason : ]

3/20/2007 10:08:36 PM

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"Why do WVU's fans suck? I didn't see the game, but my best guess is they are pretty much like any other home crowd and you are just mad cause State lost."

hey maybe you shouldn't guess and just STFU instead

3/20/2007 10:08:54 PM

Holy shit wvu is ugly/annoying basketball to watch. That is all.

3/20/2007 10:09:15 PM

anytime anyone on our team got the ball in the paint they started complaining that we were traveling

3/20/2007 10:09:22 PM

best first post ever

3/20/2007 10:09:38 PM

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"Why do WVU's fans suck? I didn't see the game, but my best guess is they are pretty much like any other home crowd and you are just mad cause State lost."

They booed everytime anything didn't go their way. It didn't matter how obvious it was. Then they booed us off the court at the end. That's one thing that made them suck.

3/20/2007 10:09:51 PM

gotta love our pack. We had a good run. everyone on here can admit, Sidney and these 7 guys have got us believing again. Hell the whole conference is believing.

I've got a huge UNC fan at work that is praying Costner goes pro

3/20/2007 10:10:06 PM

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"anytime anyone on our team got the ball in the paint they started complaining that we were traveling "

and we got mugged on the double teams which never resulted in a whistle on our side at least

3/20/2007 10:10:20 PM

WVU fans are hilarious.. They are like more vulgar NC State fans, nothing more.

They are a very well schooled team. I don't mind losing to a team like that. It's better than losing to a street ball thuggish team. Young was awesome and hit some big shots.

A big thanks to Engin Atsur for wearing the red and white with pride and guts to the very end.. couldn't be prouder of the team...

3/20/2007 10:10:27 PM

Just imagine a crowd that boos every single call and non call. Hell they were booing when the game was over......literally. I know our crowd can boo quite a bit too, but that arena was ridiculous.

Good season Pack! Can't wait to see what you guys can do next year!

3/20/2007 10:10:34 PM

tallyho, isn't that what we do w/ hansblow?

and I can agree. booing a team after the game is over is bullshit, unless the team is being unclassy (see MD taunting our fans in football in 2002)

3/20/2007 10:11:16 PM

[Edited on March 20, 2007 at 10:12 PM. Reason : hansdouche is also known as mr. travelsalot]

3/20/2007 10:11:24 PM

^^agreed

3/20/2007 10:11:43 PM

WVU fans suck, although my cousin that goes there called me and didnt talk shit...that was nice.

3/20/2007 10:13:24 PM

^^^^ Or Marist last Friday.

[Edited on March 20, 2007 at 10:14 PM. Reason : us booing them at the end]

3/20/2007 10:13:39 PM

I'm totally with y'all about their fans. They booed every damn thing tonight. Really don't understand the need for it at the end of the game either. The loss to them really hurts. They have owned us (97' NIT, 04' in the RBC, and now twice this season). Seriously blows losing to Hillbilly U and that Sendek clone corny 212 degree coach

3/20/2007 10:15:33 PM

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"tallyho, isn't that what we do w/ hansblow?"

not this bad

3/20/2007 10:16:54 PM

well they play 9 players we played like 6 tonight. I saw Neiman for a minute.

3/20/2007 10:17:13 PM

They better pray that all of their 3's go next game or miss. state is going to rail them hard.

3/20/2007 10:17:56 PM

Oh well, that's the Princeton for you, live and die by the three. They got that lucky bank in to start the run at the perfect time when we were taking control, and once the crowd and momentum were so far into it, draining the others was cake and gave them a big enough shot of energy to stage a stand. But I'll tell you one thing, I for damn sure am glad I don't have to watch that kind of ball every game like before.

[Edited on March 20, 2007 at 10:19 PM. Reason : ]

3/20/2007 10:18:58 PM

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"tallyho, isn't that what we do w/ hansblow?"

yeah but

- they did it to all our players, not just one
- when we're saying hansbrough travels, we're not simultaneously humping hansbrough in sandwich formation like the "what is love?" SNL sketch

3/20/2007 10:19:12 PM

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"humping in sandwich formation like the "what is love?" SNL sketch"

Haha that is actually a really good description of what happened every time we got in the paint.

3/20/2007 10:21:00 PM

humping. haha. Costner and McCauley should have yelled rape the entire game.

3/20/2007 10:21:46 PM

The bank was hardly luck. It was a perfect catch and shoot. Grant was out of position, Frank saw that, caught him flat-footed, and shot over him -- any good shooter will do that to you.

3/20/2007 10:22:38 PM

Nobody tries to bank a three off the glass, and on the replay it was clear that grant's hand was inches from the shooter's face when he was letting it go

3/20/2007 10:23:30 PM

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"The loss to them really hurts. They have owned us (97' NIT, 04' in the RBC, and now twice this season). Seriously blows losing to Hillbilly U and that Sendek clone corny 212 degree coach "

From what I can remember, every time we've played them, they were the favorites anyway. The announcers gave them props for a team picked to finish 12th in the Big East. Well that's 12 out of 16 teams. We were picked to finish 12th out of 12 teams!

I bet if we play them on a neutral court, we win. Shoot, if not for the lucky banked in 3 that shifted the momentum and woke up the crowd, we win there. Sometimes you get lucky, sometimes you don't. They got lucky this time. I still rather have Sid and his system than Beilein and his system. I don't like to live and die by the 3, too one-dimensional. I like to throw it in to Costner and McCauley down low most of the time and kick out for open shots every now and then.

3/20/2007 10:24:08 PM

3/20/2007 10:26:01 PM

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"Im calling it now, NCSU wins the NIT next year"

fuck off, we're going to the dance next year. i'd put mad ducket$ on it.

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"The bank was hardly luck. It was a perfect catch and shoot. "

are you seriously saying you thinkg he meant to bank a three?

3/20/2007 10:28:12 PM

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"Then they booed us off the court at the end. That's one thing that made them suck."

yea what the hell was up with that???? They won the game and during handshakes their are still booin like hell???

3/20/2007 10:28:31 PM

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"Oh well, that's the Princeton for you, live and die by the three. They got that lucky bank in to start the run at the perfect time when we were taking control, and once the crowd and momentum were so far into it, draining the others was cake and gave them a big enough shot of energy to stage a stand. But I'll tell you one thing, I for damn sure am glad I don't have to watch that kind of ball every game like before."

Beilien is NOTHING like Sendek. He has a completely different defensive scheme that is very adaptable. His offense is based on the Princeton but is far more high powered, like G'Town. That offense absoutely can be succesful in major college basketball... if the coach is willing to adapt.

Tell all the 5 star McD's AA's that are winning major conference championships at Georgetown that it doesn't showcase their skills.. Or ask Roy Hibbert or Jeff Green if it can't develop big men.

It's not luck that WVU has been so succesful under Beilien. Elite 8 (minutes from a Final 4) and a Sweet 16 the last 2 years..

[Edited on March 20, 2007 at 10:31 PM. Reason : added quote]

3/20/2007 10:29:11 PM

they might have been booing the refs

3/20/2007 10:29:48 PM

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"The bank was hardly luck. It was a perfect catch and shoot."

SERIOUSLY, JUST GET THE FUCK OUT

THAT'S THE DUMBEST THING I'VE EVER HEARD

3/20/2007 10:29:54 PM

Most of you guys are being a bunch of pussies. Yea, yea the refs missed a couple calls, both ways.

Sure their fans booed. You act like we haven't ever booed.

We took some bad shots and they banked a three. Guess what, it's a basketball game.

Man up and say we lost. We had a good season considering the expectations. Sid Lowe did a great job coaching.

3/20/2007 10:32:02 PM

That offense wasnt "stand on the 3 point line and jack them whether they fall or not"

it was precise, used inside play to open the 3, hard cuts to the basket, hard fakes to the basket then step backs for 3's, and great screening.


I never saw anything like that from Herb's offense. WVU shot too many 3's for my liking tonight because if they dont fall, we win that game going away, but that offense definately wasnt Herb style princeton.


^fag

[Edited on March 20, 2007 at 10:33 PM. Reason : ]

3/20/2007 10:32:34 PM

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"Sure their fans booed. You act like we haven't ever booed. We took some bad shots and they banked a three. Guess what, it's a basketball game. Man up and say we lost. We had a good season considering the expectations. Sid Lowe did a great job coaching."

you COMPLETELY missed the point gg

i said at least 5 times that i know we boo but not THAT BAD.. did you even watch the fucking game?

who is saying the refs cost us the game? sure it could have gone different, but we know we got a few calls too. they just seemed to give a few more to WVU

3/20/2007 10:34:39 PM

I'm saying if a guy catches and shoots the ball at the spot he wants in rhythm, it has a good chance at going in. The fact that he got a bank just means he got a good spot up in the first place. It was within their offense, exactly what they were looking for, exactly who they were looking for, exactly when they were looking for it. So lucky it was designed

[Edited on March 20, 2007 at 10:37 PM. Reason : What's with all these fatalistic pussies.]

3/20/2007 10:35:15 PM

@ncsuftw1:

I did watch the game. I saw Costner walk 12 steps, then get an And1. I'm saying people on this board concentrate too much on the refs. They constantly blame the refs. Tonight's refs were average. You aren't going to get much better.

3/20/2007 10:38:04 PM

gavin grant had 0 turnovers. amazing!

3/20/2007 10:39:14 PM

that sounds like bullshit

3/20/2007 10:39:31 PM

I call bullshit. He had to cause one at least indirectly.

3/20/2007 10:40:21 PM

nope. zero.
http://scores.espn.go.com/ncb/player/profile?playerId=22346

3/20/2007 10:41:28 PM

I agree with^^. There must have been some that he caused in directly. Those blown layups might as well count as turnovers.

3/20/2007 10:45:28 PM

They didn't show a replay of the shot we took with about 5 secs. to go, but didn't it seem like there was a foul? The ball was several feet short of the rim and it wasn't taken from too far behind the 3-line.

3/20/2007 10:45:37 PM

no thats just because grant sucks at shooting 3's

3/20/2007 10:46:31 PM

Despite the fact that there are some decent posts with insight on here, the fact that someone stated that a player meant to bank a 3 point shot discredits this entire forum, my mother and grandmother even know that a bank on a 3 is shear luck.


Haven't read the entire thread, but I'm excited about next season. Things I'm not concerned about: Costner and McCauley improving and becoming potential all acc, and Horner hittin' the weight room and getting better. Things I am concerned about but know they will continue: Gavin's inconsistency and inability to be the team leader/untimely TO's (Engin's leadership was VASTLY underrated this year). Things I'm concerned about that can be worked on: Fells playing defense instead of "let me see how wide open my man can get for a three" or "Let me see how I can sell out a teammate and let my man drive to the basket and dish to wide open defender because my teammate had to cover my man." Recruiting was also very solid this year.

[Edited on March 20, 2007 at 10:50 PM. Reason : .]

3/20/2007 10:48:00 PM

wtf? he had 0 turnovers. that's the official stat for the game. there isn't a "indirect turnover" stat line. i know it's crazy and all, but it's true.

3/20/2007 10:48:03 PM

Grant is our senior leader next year....

That makes me part and part

Fells was the poor ball-handler tonight

3/20/2007 10:50:57 PM

^^One game does not a season make, notice the "inconsistency" portion I mentioned

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"That makes me part and part "

^, precisely, he's inconsistent at best and will be the same as the only senior and team leaer, we will miss that intangible of Atsur let alone his ability to pas the ball to people wearing the same color jersey as himself.



[Edited on March 20, 2007 at 10:53 PM. Reason : .]

3/20/2007 10:51:03 PM