black friday may help hd dvd

walmart has Xbox 360 with 5 bonus games for $279.92 and deals on cheap hd tvs...so people may add the add on with that cheap of a price. who knows.

11/15/2007 5:05:27 PM

yeah, considering the best blu-ray black friday deal i've seen is still $380

but don't count on xbox360 buyers to fuel HD DVD, b/c it's probably a very very small amount that buy the add-on

[Edited on November 15, 2007 at 5:10 PM. Reason : .]

11/15/2007 5:09:18 PM

^ I don't know about that. I would think the HD DVD add-on would make a great christmas present for someone in their early-mid teens (who already owns a 360). Back in 1998 (when I was 13), my brother and I spent $300 on a DVD player (and this was before they even sold DVDs in Wal-Mart).

11/15/2007 5:29:54 PM

do not buy the hd dvd addon

using a console for a dvd player is the dumbest thing ever


i own one so if you want to buy it 100$ and its yours

11/15/2007 6:18:53 PM

Quote :

"1080p is overrated, it's quality yes, but i'm not paying $300 more for something hardly noticable, nor will the general public"

i agree that 1080p is overrated...but i think that with the plethora of 1080p televisions out there, if you want a certain size, you're going to pay more for th 1080p because the guy at bb/cc/hhgregg tells you to

11/15/2007 6:24:23 PM

not just the size but how far away you are... i mean think of the rez on my laptop

11/15/2007 7:48:13 PM

Quote :

"do not buy the hd dvd addon using a console for a dvd player is the dumbest thing ever i own one so if you want to buy it 100$ and its yours"

granted you had a bad experience I don't agree. I've been using my HD-DVD add on for the xbox and gave my girlfriend my stand alone A1 player. The add-on is so much faster and better. Picture quality is 1080p and it takes up less space. no over heating issues either

11/15/2007 8:00:22 PM

The 360 drive is definitely faster and not without it's perks.

However, given the questionable history of 360s, it might not be the best option if you want to reliably watch movies. Or if, like FanatiK you've got some hard-on for uncompressed sound which you probably wouldn't be able to tell the difference between anyway.

I will say though, the 360 remote is much nicer than the HD-A2 remote.

[Edited on November 15, 2007 at 8:19 PM. Reason : .]

11/15/2007 8:19:26 PM

hahah my 360 has been on almost 24/7 for a year and half... no problems
with dvd/hd-dvd duties for that entire time

11/15/2007 8:23:45 PM

^same

11/15/2007 8:52:50 PM

its like your trying to convince me to put my hand on the stove

fuck no man

11/15/2007 9:39:46 PM

its like I'm not trying to convince you of anything. I'm just saying I've put my hand on the stove and didn't get burnt.

11/15/2007 10:35:13 PM

i still have my 360 from the 5am best buy line and it's working great with the hd dvd add on. just for what it's worth:

downstairs i have the xbox 360 with hd dvd add on and a 50" samsung plasma (720p).
upstairs i have a toshiba a20 with a 32" sharp aquos 1080p.

i can't tell a difference between the two, watching hd dvds. if i stand a foot away from the screen i can, but more than 2 feet away and the picture quality looks the same. the 360 add on is insanely faster, but much louder in comparison. as long as you aren't watching a really quiet movie, you shouldn't notice it too much anyway.

11/15/2007 11:00:46 PM

I can tell the difference between 720p and 1080p games.

11/15/2007 11:17:23 PM

my xbox addon is very quiet.. although the 360 itself isn't..

11/16/2007 12:44:37 AM

Quote :

"I can tell the difference between 720p and 1080p games."

HD games != HD movies

11/16/2007 4:53:40 AM

Stein buddy.... You've obviously never heard an uncompressed movie soundtrack on a good setup, otherwise you'd be singing its praises too. You shouldn't talk about things you don't know about.

[Edited on November 16, 2007 at 8:47 AM. Reason : f]

11/16/2007 8:46:24 AM

I'm just going to wait and see what Denon comes up with in six months.

11/16/2007 8:46:44 AM

Quote :

"You've obviously never heard an uncompressed movie soundtrack on a good setup, otherwise you'd be singing its praises too. You shouldn't talk about things you don't know about."

What is a good setup? Go ahead and define what constitutes a proper home audio setup down to the very components you would chose and why.

11/16/2007 10:18:27 AM

Don't be a jackass man.
I agree uncompressed audio tracks sound infinitely better.

and what he means by a decent system is one that was at least compared to others from small audio specific shops and not just some idiot who purchased the most expensive klipshe crap at best buy.

11/16/2007 11:00:31 AM

A lot more depends on how well the track was mastered in the first place, during its original production, than on how the disk producers encode the audio track onto the disk. If you're going to play something like Chronos, which was originally mixed in IMAX-6, and has lots of quiet moments, and lots of grand moments, and you want to hear every nuance of every sound in its all-instrumental soundtrack... then yeah, lossless uncompressed is going to be so much better.

For any of your blockbuster movies, like 300, Transformers, or Live Free Or Die Hard... it really doesn't matter *IN MY OPINION*. These audio tracks aren't about hi-fidelity. They're about cranking it up to max, blow out ear drums with a 500w sub, and wow'ing your friends with how you can hear that jet fly across the room with your 5.1 surround.

11/16/2007 11:21:24 AM

I'm not being a jackass. Everyone on this stupid website tosses out general statements that the read from retarded forums/websites/blogs without bothering to explain anything in technical detail.

If I wanted to be a jackass I'd point out that studios record tracks specifically to be loud and play well on standard systems...those that contain 1bit DAC's made in china.

Turn the volume up on a modern classical track and tell me that shit is remotely high fidelity.

11/16/2007 11:45:17 AM

What's up with this "Disc Error code: 408bc504" that I keep hearing about, coming from the Toshiba A2s and A3s?

11/16/2007 11:54:11 AM

probably something similar to the PS3 error after the firmware update. bad code.

11/16/2007 12:15:14 PM

Quote :

"I'm not being a jackass. Everyone on this stupid website tosses out general statements that the read from retarded forums/websites/blogs without bothering to explain anything in technical detail."

right, cuz me commenting based on the audio system THAT I OWN AND USE DAILY at home is just like tossing random info that I read on a blog.

Ease up, man. My point is, Stein is talking shit about uncompressed audio when it's clear he doesn't know what he's talking about.

^What is this PS3 error you keep talking about? Seriously.

[Edited on November 16, 2007 at 12:16 PM. Reason : d]

11/16/2007 12:15:32 PM

^I have an excellent setup at home and I'm with stein on this one. You sir are living a PS3 fantasy. You are such a FanatiK about it that you can't see any reason.

oh and search if you want to know what firmware update i'm talking about. Stop being dumb.

[Edited on November 16, 2007 at 12:23 PM. Reason : .]

11/16/2007 12:22:17 PM

Although this is tempting:

http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/pna/v3/pg/product/details/0,,2076_310069741_492837012,00.html

Waiting is so freakin difficult!

11/16/2007 12:23:33 PM

Here they go again...

11/16/2007 12:24:16 PM

go for it man!

Quote :

"Suggested Price: $999.00"

^ maybe if your PS3 peon would stop acting like a fanatik about everything we wouldn't be going down this road over and over again.

[Edited on November 16, 2007 at 12:25 PM. Reason : asf]

11/16/2007 12:24:34 PM

I know what firmware update you're talking about, I just don't know what this problem you keep talking about is. It's a serious question, why is it so hard for you to answer? You'll waste your time typing a "witty" (highly subjective) reply, but can't actually bring the info. You're silly.

And hey, if you can't hear the difference in clarity w/uncompressed audio, it's your loss really... not mine. I enjoy it. To each his own, I guess.

11/16/2007 12:27:31 PM

^one giant for that lame attempt. It takes a lot less time for me to type a comment than having to use google for you.

11/16/2007 12:29:52 PM

Price is not significant. My life's main hobby is high fidelty A/V. I love music, and I love movies. Therefore, I will invest in my dedicated movie playing device.

[Edited on November 16, 2007 at 12:31 PM. Reason : Also, you're probably still in school, but once you get a job $999 is cake.]

11/16/2007 12:30:18 PM

^hey I totally agree with you. But my life's hobby isn't anything like yours. I'm not in school and $999 is cake for me as well.

careful you don't let chance or gronke see this post...they may think you're bragging and your parents buy you everything

[Edited on November 16, 2007 at 12:35 PM. Reason : and I have a 'real' job. ]

11/16/2007 12:34:49 PM

^ Haha - will do.

11/16/2007 12:38:19 PM

well, I guess I got served.

Good job.

11/16/2007 12:48:19 PM

fucking christ, like 4 of you should be banned from posting

11/16/2007 12:54:25 PM

I think we should all go back to Beta tapes. That would solve the whole thing.

11/16/2007 12:55:17 PM

Well, with the thread title "Buy Blu-Ray or HDDVD" you've got to expect some trolls lurking.

Title might as well be "last person to post in here has the biggest e-penis!"


and speaking of e-penises, Girls Gone Wild hits Blu-Ray and HDDVD the first week in December. Exciting, isn't it?

11/16/2007 12:57:09 PM

Beta and 8 tracks. Yeah...............

11/16/2007 1:01:49 PM

The difference between uncompressed PCM and something like TrueHD or DTS-HD MA is negligible. Both of those are essentially just zip files for lossless audio anyway. The difference between those and bog standard Dolby Digital is huge. Anyone who argues otherwise is a nut.

[Edited on November 16, 2007 at 1:15 PM. Reason : :]

11/16/2007 1:07:32 PM

^^^HD does not make trailer trash look any better

[Edited on November 16, 2007 at 1:12 PM. Reason : ^]

11/16/2007 1:12:34 PM

Quote :

"The difference between uncompressed PCM and something like TrueHD or DTS-HD MA is negligible. Both of those are essentially just zip files for lossless audio anyway. The difference between those and bog standard Dolby Digital is huge. Anyone who argues otherwise is a nut."

Post proof. I want oscilloscope readings and a vote by a panel of 1000 double blind participants, otherwise you're just repeating something you've heard on the internet.

11/16/2007 1:33:31 PM

^sounds like you doesn't it?

11/16/2007 2:04:14 PM

once i get my digital speakers im going to be in the MONEY

11/16/2007 2:26:44 PM

Quote :

"If I wanted to be a jackass I'd point out that studios record tracks specifically to be loud and play well on standard systems...those that contain 1bit DAC's made in china."

So you think they continue to do that on disks that require $500 players and $2k tvs just to view in their native formats? (this isn't being a dick this is serious) i don't understand why they would continue to provide for low end audio when everything else in the system must be high end to reap the benefits of the format in the 1st place.

On my stereo i like to listen to
#1 hd movies
#2 Cds & dvd audio
#3 flac digital files
#4 Hd-tv
#5 mp3s/wma (sometimes bumped up based on bit-rate)

and old records slide in there based off of how well they've been kept over the years.
and each step is a very noticeable change in audio quality.

↑ please tell me not meridian.... have you listened to them its almost as much of a gimmick as the electrostatic stuff is. I mean i understand different strokes for different folks but the only way i'd spend that kind of money on digital speakers is if i were running the signal in the wall throughout the house and was worried about it picking up the 60hz hum from a/c power.


[Edited on November 16, 2007 at 2:30 PM. Reason : .]

11/16/2007 2:26:48 PM

Quote :

"^sounds like you doesn't it?"

You really are the worst troll ever. You don't even make it fun...

11/16/2007 2:28:51 PM

http://www.nxtbook.com/nxtbooks/questex/hom111807/index.php

New numbers posted. This includes the weekend of the HD DVD player firesale, Ratatouille, and Transformers in its third week.

11/16/2007 3:30:25 PM

When the hell is Warner planning to release Batman Begins on Blu-Ray?? They sure are taking their time.

11/16/2007 3:53:06 PM

Eventually. The Omega Man is coming out on Blu-ray, but Warner released it on HD DVD a while ago. The studios don't always release old titles on both formats, and at the same time. For instance, New Line (a child of Warner) is releasing Hairspray on Blu-ray but not HD DVD, while they're releasing Pan's Labyrinth on both formats... and they're releasing Shoot 'Em Up on Blu-ray on January 1st but holding off on the HD DVD version until the worldwide theatrical run is done (HD DVDs don't have region locking, and are more populare in Europe)

11/16/2007 4:05:47 PM

Quote :

" right, cuz me commenting based on the audio system THAT I OWN AND USE DAILY at home is just like tossing random info that I read on a blog."

Maybe you missed the boat.

I'm asking you what your system is and why you chose it specifically.

11/16/2007 4:23:22 PM