marko Tom Joad 72828 Posts user info edit post |
GO STATE 2/9/2009 2:47:52 PM |
wolfAApack All American 9980 Posts user info edit post |
I still dont get how people can just ignore the fact that Sidney had to recruit some guys just to fill roster spots. Given an even playing field, Sidney has done better in recruiting for 09 than I would have expected, and depending on who else we get, this class could become great.
Sure, we have some players here that probably shouldn't be here, but thats part of the process when you run your good coach with a strong recruiting base out of town.
And regarding that president comment, you realize that only a small majority decided the last 2 elections? Plus, we didn't choose Sidney, Fowler did. A better comment would be that half the country loves the president, and half the country hates him...similar to our fanbase regarding the last 2 coaches. You can't fucking win. 2/9/2009 2:48:57 PM |
jocristian All American 7527 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Sure, he should put guys in position to win, he should motivate, he should work the refs...but when it comes down to it, he can do all 3 of those things and if our players don't execute what he tells them and if the refs still fuck us over, we still lose." |
Look man, refs have been fucking us over since I have been a fan of state and I guarantee you that every other fanbase of losing/mediocre teams feels like the refs fuck them over continually too. Hell, you know the VT fans were pissed at the refs during the first half of the game.
Bottom line is that was an EPIC choke and well, it feels shitty to blame a player who trys hard but just isn't that good. Horner shouldn't have been on the floor to choke in the first place.
That leaves Sidney, and while I don't blame the losses on him every time or think he should be fired, I am about tired of seeing slowass white guys on the floor fuck up when we have decent players on the bench who are just as capable of fucking up, but might actually be also capable of contributing if they ever got any playing time.
[Edited on February 9, 2009 at 2:51 PM. Reason : d]2/9/2009 2:50:07 PM |
wolfAApack All American 9980 Posts user info edit post |
that may be the biggest bunch of rambling incoherent bullshit i've read today.
in addition, why do you say VT got bad calls in the first half...is it because their fans booed on every call that didn't go in their favor from the first whistle on? Because if they thought it was a bad call...it must have been...right? Maybe that argument wouldn't hold water except they thought Fells actually committed an intentional. (great job by the VT fans though....horrible job by the refs to let that shit get to them)
[Edited on February 9, 2009 at 2:53 PM. Reason : ] 2/9/2009 2:52:11 PM |
bdmazur ?? ????? ?? 14957 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "And regarding that president comment, you realize that only a small majority decided the last 2 elections? " |
I didn't say American leader. Italy has averaged a 92.5% voter turnout in the last 50 years, and they haven't had the best of leaders.
Quote : | "we didn't choose Sidney, Fowler did" |
I was just saying that you can blame the coach for picking the players and deciding who was going to play when. And yes, Fowler is just as much at fault.
[Edited on February 9, 2009 at 2:54 PM. Reason : -]2/9/2009 2:53:18 PM |
wolfAApack All American 9980 Posts user info edit post |
well I just assume that people are putting america and shitty leader together...but still...my point stands that even with good voter turnout, barely over half of the voters actually vote for the guy who is elected.
to your edit, if you read my post you will see that I point out a valid reason that those players aren't what you would expect on a high major basketball team.
[Edited on February 9, 2009 at 2:57 PM. Reason : ] 2/9/2009 2:55:48 PM |
PrufrockNCSU All American 24415 Posts user info edit post |
Defeat snatched from the jaws of victory once again. 2/9/2009 2:57:57 PM |
jocristian All American 7527 Posts user info edit post |
^^^^ There were a shitload of touch fouls called on VT on the first half the same way there were a ton on us in the second half.
[Edited on February 9, 2009 at 2:59 PM. Reason : d] 2/9/2009 2:59:24 PM |
Aficionado Suspended 22518 Posts user info edit post |
all the errors yesterday came down to lack of discipline
and it is the coaches responsibility to get the players to respect him 2/9/2009 3:06:01 PM |
wolfAApack All American 9980 Posts user info edit post |
The difference being, that VT actually committed those fouls, and kept committing them in the second half when they weren't being called....and on the other hand we did deserve several of our calls, but not considering that they swallowed the whistle while VT was playing defense in the last 12 minutes.
Plus, the questionable fouls against VT gave us a fresh shot clock and a ball out of bounds in the first half. The questionable calls against us put VT on the free throw line. Delaney scores 7 straight from the line. I think they scored at least 9 points on their run in the first half from the foul line. Don't give me this shit about VT getting all of the calls. 2/9/2009 3:06:05 PM |