no i'm going to give them dirty looks or talk about them behind their back but just loud enough for them to hear

EWWWWW SMELLY FATASS

1/4/2010 2:50:55 PM

you call ask people on here.......

i call people "fat" to their face....i have no problems doing that, and i've done it to some people on here several times

1/4/2010 2:51:51 PM

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"i think you should be able to drive your scooter in macy's if the owner is ok with it"

unfortunately, the gubment doesn't give the store owner an option

1/4/2010 2:52:07 PM

LOL

you just walk up to people in a bar and call them fat?

1/4/2010 2:52:36 PM

yeah.....i've done it many times

1/4/2010 2:53:13 PM

^you're a real badass

[Edited on January 4, 2010 at 2:53 PM. Reason : .]

1/4/2010 2:53:16 PM

no, i was a real drunkass

1/4/2010 2:54:07 PM

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"unfortunately, the gubment doesn't give the store owner an option"

what law is this?

you can allow indoor kart racing, dirtbike racing, etc if you so desire

1/4/2010 2:54:30 PM

^ it's in chapter 20 of the NC general statutes

http://www.ncga.state.nc.us/gascripts/Statutes/StatutesTOC.pl?Chapter=0020

1/4/2010 2:57:55 PM

i don't believe you

1/4/2010 3:00:33 PM

we went over it in my criminal law course a few years ago...i have no clue WHERE in chapter 20 it is

1/4/2010 3:01:05 PM

THIS IS A PRIME EXAMPLE OF NO ONE WANTING TO TAKE THE TIME TO READ LAWS


including myself

1/4/2010 3:03:06 PM

it's funny that some people are so neurotically caught up in other peoples' business that they feel the need to pass laws

1/4/2010 3:05:44 PM

i could read all those laws and wouldn't understand any of it

1/4/2010 3:06:55 PM

it's funny that some people are so neurotically caught up in other peoples' business self-important and assured of their righteousness that they feel the need to pass laws to be inconsiderate and irresponsible in regards to the well-being of others around them

1/4/2010 3:07:26 PM

I understand your desire to not be around tobacco smoke, but if I'm producing tobacco smoke you don't like in a privately owned location with the consent of the owner, what leg do you have to stand on other than this horseshit law?

Don't you realize that if you start banning shit left and right due to personal preference rather than any coherent principle that pretty soon people will start banning shit YOU like?

1/4/2010 3:09:34 PM

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"I understand your desire to not be around tobacco smoke, but if I'm producing tobacco smoke you don't like in a privately owned location with the consent of the owner, what leg do you have to stand on other than this horseshit law? Don't you realize that if you start banning shit left and right due to personal preference rather than any coherent principle that pretty soon people will start banning shit YOU like?"

hah, go back to the sanitation example...there's no reason to require sanitation ratings by your logic because it's a PRIVATE business...if they want to serve shitty food that makes people sick, that's their RIGHT to do so...if you don't like it, don't eat there! i mean, after all, no one is MAKING you go there, are they? if enough people don't like it and the business suffers, then the business will either make changes to bring people in or they'll go bankrupt and it won't be an issue

what about people who go into a place they've never been before, and don't know that it's safe to eat there, you say? well, that's easy...don't eat at a place that doesn't VOLUNTARILY conform to sanitation SUGGESTIONS! i mean, we wouldn't want to keep people from eating undercooked meat, would we? it's their RIGHT to do so

of COURSE this is a stupid example because there are very few people that would argue that sanitation requirements should be eliminated in favor of LIBERTY...but it's the same damn thing and by your reasoning, there are all kinds of laws that are affecting the liberties of private businesses

at some point, a line must be drawn and personal liberties MUST be sacrified for the greater good...that's all a democracy is, anyway...the majority ruling over the minority...it's a downside of government and NO government is immune

[Edited on January 4, 2010 at 3:21 PM. Reason : .]

1/4/2010 3:19:35 PM

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"i mean, we wouldn't want to keep people from eating undercooked meat, would we? it's their RIGHT to do so"

I very much enjoy being able to go get a medium rare burger from Raleigh Times, and have considered trying it out rare. Get that shit out of here.

1/4/2010 3:22:24 PM

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"I very much enjoy being able to go get a medium rare burger from Raleigh Times, and have considered trying it out rare. Get that shit out of here."

my apologies...let me know the next time you want to exercise your right to eat raw, rancid shrimp at a seafood joint...THE GUBMENT WON'T LET YOU DO IT, MAN

1/4/2010 3:24:15 PM

Steak is almost never undercooked unless it's still moving.

1/4/2010 3:24:25 PM

1/4/2010 3:24:54 PM

^^ steak isn't usually a health hazard as long as the outside's been flame-kissed for a few seconds...if you want it rarer than that, you should consider buying a cow and taking a bite out of it while it moos at you

[Edited on January 4, 2010 at 3:25 PM. Reason : .]

1/4/2010 3:25:32 PM

They serve steak tartare at Sitti.

Also, I'll never buy the argument that not smoking inside enriches EVERYONE'S life, as I know that there are people who would be happier smoking and dying earlier.

1/4/2010 3:31:23 PM

I can't find that law on scooters in stores, I don't think it exists.

1/4/2010 3:36:04 PM

^ it doesn't specify scooters...it specifies motorized vehicles that exceed a certain speed limit, tire size, and weight (and maybe some other things, i'm not sure)...it is NOT tied to the off-road/on-road motorized vehicles laws, either

1/4/2010 3:39:38 PM

but like i said, i can hold indoor scooter races if i so desire

i can get sued if someone gets hurt, but i can definitely do it

1/4/2010 3:44:06 PM

^ actually, legally, you cannot...i was pulling this out of my ass from my class (it was an example of a silly law that enforces common sense)...you have to jump through all kinds of hoops to have an indoor area that allows for motorized vehicle operation (extended movement, not just turning them on like you would in a garage)

*shrug*

1/4/2010 3:47:29 PM

show me the law or stfu

1/4/2010 3:48:17 PM

1/4/2010 3:49:29 PM

...and there are plenty of restaurants that serve raw food, including steak as noted above.

1/4/2010 3:51:01 PM

^ you know what i mean, considering i was referring to sanitation ratings, but i also understand that some of you are a bit slow on the uptake, so i'll let your obvious and intentional lack of understanding slide and chalk it up to the portion of society that is beneath me in terms of their ability to grasp simple concepts

1/4/2010 3:53:39 PM

Flying Saucer in Charlotte was very quick to enforce the law. I was there on 1-2-10 and it was amazing how much more enjoyable it was. I have nothing against smoking or smokers. I was one once, but i love this law.

1/4/2010 3:57:18 PM

^ i was at saucer yesterday for brunch, and it was significantly easier to breath, just in general

the funk is still there, but i couldn't smell my shirt from across the room when i got home and took it off, like i used to when they allowed smoking

it also seemed just as busy as usual for brunch around 12:30

1/4/2010 3:58:43 PM

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"raw, rancid shrimp at a seafood joint"

would imply the food hadn't been kept properly (poor sanitation), and not necessarily have anything to do with serving the meat "undercooked"

1/4/2010 3:58:49 PM

I didn't see anything pertaining to racing, other than street racing, in Ch. 20

1/4/2010 3:59:21 PM

the difference b/w the sanitation and the smoking argument is that you can't see what is being done to your food and you have no knowledge- you would know if you are walking into an establishment that allows smoking and that is your decision (same as it would be to walk away from someone smoking a cigar outside)

1/4/2010 3:59:33 PM

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"(poor sanitation)"

...which is why i specifically mentioned sanitation ratings

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"I didn't see anything pertaining to racing, other than street racing, in Ch. 20"

it's not racing in particular, but the operation of motor vehicles at operational speeds in general

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"the difference b/w the sanitation and the smoking argument is that you can't see what is being done to your food and you have no knowledge- you would know if you are walking into an establishment that allows smoking and that is your decision (same as it would be to walk away from someone smoking a cigar outside)"

what if i walk into an establishment (having never been there before) that allows smoking and i don't notice (because no one is smoking) until after i've received my food and someone lights up? do i have the right to walk out and not pay for what i've ordered and eaten because i couldn't see that someone was going to smoke? i mean, it ruins the meal as much as bad food, and it's not MY fault

[Edited on January 4, 2010 at 4:02 PM. Reason : .]

1/4/2010 3:59:35 PM

Sanitation ratings are so easy to manipulate that I put little to no stock in them.

1/4/2010 4:02:13 PM

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"which is why i specifically mentioned sanitation ratings"

your argument would've been more clear had you used the rancid meat example instead of the "undercooked" one.

1/4/2010 4:02:19 PM

^ you're right...it was poorly worded

1/4/2010 4:02:42 PM

^^^^I think if you walk into a place, order your food, and then see it has a C rating, you can walk out....

[Edited on January 4, 2010 at 4:03 PM. Reason : ^]

1/4/2010 4:03:09 PM

Quote :

"hah, go back to the sanitation example...there's no reason to require sanitation ratings by your logic because it's a PRIVATE business...if they want to serve shitty food that makes people sick, that's their RIGHT to do so...if you don't like it, don't eat there! i mean, after all, no one is MAKING you go there, are they? if enough people don't like it and the business suffers, then the business will either make changes to bring people in or they'll go bankrupt and it won't be an issue what about people who go into a place they've never been before, and don't know that it's safe to eat there, you say? well, that's easy...don't eat at a place that doesn't VOLUNTARILY conform to sanitation SUGGESTIONS! i mean, we wouldn't want to keep people from eating undercooked meat, would we? it's their RIGHT to do so of COURSE this is a stupid example because there are very few people that would argue that sanitation requirements should be eliminated in favor of LIBERTY...but it's the same damn thing and by your reasoning, there are all kinds of laws that are affecting the liberties of private businesses at some point, a line must be drawn and personal liberties MUST be sacrified for the greater good...that's all a democracy is, anyway...the majority ruling over the minority...it's a downside of government and NO government is immune "

Sanitation standards are completely different than the right to serve unhealthy food, unless you think having a filthy kitchen and cooking a deep fried twinkie are exactly the same thing and that the latter should be illegal due to sanitation laws. What a shitty analogy, maybe you should stick to making websites like a fucking goon

1/4/2010 4:09:12 PM

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"what if i walk into an establishment (having never been there before) that allows smoking and i don't notice (because no one is smoking) until after i've received my food and someone lights up? do i have the right to walk out and not pay for what i've ordered and eaten because i couldn't see that someone was going to smoke? i mean, it ruins the meal as much as bad food, and it's not MY fault"

lol

they post sanitation ratings on the wall. there should also be a sign on the outside of the establishment stating whether the place is smoking or nonsmoking. oh wait! places that don't allow smoking already tell you on the way in.

1/4/2010 4:12:25 PM

^

1/4/2010 4:13:57 PM

hey, can you guys smoke inside restaurants & bars anymore? I can't remember.

1/4/2010 4:15:18 PM

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"hey, can you guys smoke inside restaurants & bars anymore? I can't remember."

Just because a bunch of idiot state politicians voted your way is no reason to brag

1/4/2010 4:17:17 PM

^^I don't know who you mean by "you guys", but I don't smoke. And icwydt, but it wasn't funny.

1/4/2010 4:18:10 PM

I don't support this law on ethical grounds, but I will reap the benefits of it.

1/4/2010 4:21:46 PM

^

1/4/2010 4:23:03 PM

you are right, McD, I shouldn't brag because karma IS a bitch.

All those smokers who didn't give two shits about the people around them, got what was coming to them.

If I keep it up, karma will bite me in the ass and repeal the law.

[Edited on January 4, 2010 at 4:27 PM. Reason : .]

1/4/2010 4:25:51 PM