Hillary was going to speak at Broughton but moved it to Hillside

lol, i wonder why they made that switch

3/9/2016 1:31:23 PM

Everyone assumes NC thinks and operates the same way as SC and southern Virginia but they are usually wrong.

3/9/2016 1:37:28 PM

Can't wait to see the national polls done after Michigan.

And on another note, RCP is including some weird polls for Florida.

3/11/2016 2:35:26 PM

I've seen the spread on Florida as Hillary up as small as 5 and as large as 45. Illinois is ranging between Hillary +37 and Bernie +2.

No idea what to expect.

[Edited on March 14, 2016 at 2:39 AM. Reason : -]

3/14/2016 2:38:48 AM

Quote :

"I've seen the spread on Florida as Hillary up as small as 5"

Where? RCP has Hillary up from 25%-45%, with 30% being the average.

[Edited on March 14, 2016 at 9:45 AM. Reason : Illinois looks like a coin toss tho]

3/14/2016 9:44:19 AM

Quote :

"Everyone assumes NC thinks and operates the same way as SC and southern Virginia but they are usually wrong."

I think NC is going to be an absolute blowout in Clinton's favor. I haven't seen any evidence that it's going to be anything other than that.

3/14/2016 12:02:57 PM

I thought he'd be higher in the polls for NC by now. That Elon one was a fluke apparently. But there is still the fact that when the Sanders campaign invests in a state, the polls wind up inaccurate. Idk how much he has invested in NC and FL, but it's substantially more than the rest of the south.

Reddit made 100k phonebank weekend, pretty wild

3/14/2016 12:13:02 PM

although the triangle and asheville may be different, the rest of nc is basically the same as sc and georgia. Its gonna be a clinton rout.

3/14/2016 1:34:06 PM

i haven't seen much evidence of sanders ground game, but i've been flyered for Clinton 3 times

3/14/2016 1:39:12 PM

^
People were reporting the same in Michigan.

I should have said advertising/rallies/phonebanking instead of ground game.

3/14/2016 1:45:00 PM

I had a Bernie guy come to knock on our door about a week ago. Have had about 3 Hillary flyers in the mail.

Personally, anyone coming to your door for a candidate has a much better chance of sticking in my head than a glossy piece of paper in with the other handful of junk mail I get every day.

3/14/2016 2:28:50 PM

When people decide to vote for Bernie, it's more likely that a passionate friend convinced them than a yard sign or mailer.

3/14/2016 8:09:17 PM

Exit polls showing Ohio and NC much closer than politico and RCP showed. Florida is a blowout.

3/15/2016 7:35:15 PM

Clinton is up almost 30 points early here. What was the last polling?

[Edited on March 15, 2016 at 7:48 PM. Reason : It's real early in NC though at least]

3/15/2016 7:43:15 PM

its doomsday folks

3/15/2016 7:47:16 PM

Illinois would be big!

3/15/2016 8:02:02 PM

WaPo already called Clinton.

Anything short of a major upset in IL and I think it's curtains for Bern. And by major upset, I mean more than a tie.

3/15/2016 8:08:53 PM

So Trump versus Clinton pretty much the worst thing that could have happened to this country. I'd vote for a third term for Obama before either of those crooks.

3/15/2016 8:19:56 PM

Jill Stein 2016

3/15/2016 8:21:17 PM

Sure seems like the death knell for Bernie with Ohio being called so early. Thought it'd be a long night but not shaping up.

Never thought the Dem primary might be over before the Rep a few weeks ago..

3/15/2016 8:45:02 PM

really really confused by these results

more disgusted but also confused

3/15/2016 8:57:22 PM

Quote :

"really really confused by these results"

Really?

3/15/2016 9:03:54 PM

absolutely.

and our two "choices" are the two with the highest disapproval ratings out of all of the candidates.

disgusting

3/15/2016 9:06:34 PM

Are you new to American politics, or...?

3/15/2016 9:08:38 PM

This first aired in 2004....

3/15/2016 9:11:23 PM

clearly it's on a different level this time

3/15/2016 9:21:36 PM

Quote :

"really really confused by these results"

are you confused because you convinced yourself that polls were all of a sudden all 20+ points wrong because of a single outlier?

3/15/2016 9:40:45 PM

he has been out-performing polls outside of the south. he is under-performing tonight.

3/15/2016 9:43:31 PM

Sorry to come off as elitist but no informed person watches the debates, or reads up on the candidates and says "hillary would make a great president". Same with trump. Ignorance wins out in America.

Yes this is sour grapes but this nation can't move forward without better education and can't get better education without moving forward. Might as well vote for trump now and I will do so by voting for Stein because fuck trump.

[Edited on March 15, 2016 at 9:53 PM. Reason : k]

3/15/2016 9:52:31 PM

He is still outperforming polls tonight, just not by nearly as much as he needed to.

It looks likely that he will finish with 40%+ in every state except Florida, and that isn't bad. Just not good enough. This is the first time this campaign season I've felt legitimately disheartened by a Sanders loss.

[Edited on March 15, 2016 at 9:58 PM. Reason : -]

3/15/2016 9:56:13 PM

it's fine if you aren't a fan of Hillary, but this false equivalency of comparing her and Trump has gotta stop

or even Cruz

and this is coming from someone who voted for Bernie today knowing the writing was already on the wall for him before today and will gladly vote for Clinton in the general

3/15/2016 9:57:44 PM

^^
not according to RCP averages, except for missouri where he's up by 1 over RCP.

[Edited on March 15, 2016 at 9:58 PM. Reason : .]

3/15/2016 9:58:25 PM

WOMEN FOR PREZ!!!

3/15/2016 10:02:46 PM

Those averages are ridiculous because of how many extreme outliers there inevitably always are. Double digit spreads between the poll that has them closest and the poll that most heavily favors one over the other don't average out to a reliable number.

Example North Carolina. Smallest predicted win for Hillary: 19. Largest predicted win: 29. Spread of 10, average of 24, but right now she's only up by 15.

3/15/2016 10:03:33 PM

Nah, its time for bernie supporters to get nasty...Its not the moral high ground but why not? the country has lost regardless of what happens.

the wall street oligarchy is just as offensive as trump's antics. at least trump's racism can't actually be implemented unlike the political machine that is already status quo. I'm much closer to voting for trump than hillary. If he hadn't have said the stuff about mexicans and muslims I'd be on board. On the other hand, Hillary is 100% fake.

3/15/2016 10:08:25 PM

Just a quick reminder that the reddits and twws of the world aren't reality.

3/15/2016 10:10:41 PM

I think we've got a bunch of horrible options here, but the one thing that really boggles my mind and shows how much the Democratic establishment owns the black vote is that Hillary is winning the black vote so commandingly. She's demonstrably worse on virtually every "black" issue.

Congrats, black folk, you've once again made your needs irrelevant to both parties.

3/15/2016 10:25:41 PM

black issues such as....?

3/15/2016 10:41:20 PM

http://iSideWith.com/map/INsz

proof no one knows what the fuck they are voting for.

96% Bernie.

Either that means only people who support bernie bother to go on isidewith and see where their stance on the issues puts them

or

almost every democrat actually agrees with bernie but just doesn't know that they do.

I don't know which one is worse.

3/15/2016 10:41:58 PM

raise your hand if you're surprised a bernie supporter doesn't understand what an unscientific poll is

seriously - you guys are so much like trump folk it's amusing

[Edited on March 15, 2016 at 10:48 PM. Reason : .]

3/15/2016 10:47:44 PM

Quote :

"the one thing that really boggles my mind and shows how much the Democratic establishment owns the black vote is that Hillary is winning the black vote so commandingly. She's demonstrably worse on virtually every "black" issue. "

I like how Trump can be summed up as a racist, but Bernie supporters can neatly place all blacks into one voting demographic with identical issues. It's about as dumb as Fox News not understanding how "evangelicals" could possibly vote for a candidate that doesn't win the "talks like a revival preacher" competition.

3/15/2016 10:54:18 PM

Quote :

"black issues such as....?"

Income equality/getting paid a livable wage, mandatory minimums, city planning forcing poor black families out of their homes and onto the streets, racial profiling, environmental care for urban areas, college affordability/accessibility, police brutality, gun violence in black neighborhoods...

Quote :

"Bernie supporters can neatly place all blacks into one voting demographic with identical issues."

Replace Bernie with any politician's name. All the pundits want to talk about the black vote and minority electorate as if it's all one voice. Bernie is the only one who sees diversity as something more than a flashy word.

[Edited on March 15, 2016 at 10:59 PM. Reason : -]

3/15/2016 10:57:05 PM

and she's on the record as being on the other side of those issues?

in 2016?

3/15/2016 10:58:40 PM

She's on record saying exactly what black voters want to hear, regardless if she said the opposite as recently as 4 years ago, and her media machine is willing to throw out "Hillary owns the black vote" and "Bernie is winning the white male vote" enough times to make people believe it means Bernie is bad for minorities.

3/15/2016 11:01:30 PM

actually its the blacks (who happen to be uber christian) as well as other christians who are bigots by refusing to vote for a jew even they agree with everything he stands for. black and white voters got played hard this cycle by the establishment congresssmen and women who told them they had to vote for hillary. they are just proles and vote as theyre told.

[Edited on March 15, 2016 at 11:02 PM. Reason : its really a shame. ]

3/15/2016 11:01:36 PM

lol

3/15/2016 11:02:33 PM

Bernie doesn't unite the "Jewish vote." Because A) we all have our own opinions. B) most Jews don't think religion should matter in politics (which is why the quickest way to lose our vote is talk about G-d in the political realm), C) there was a point in history where we were told we were all exactly the same and should suffer for it.

Bernie Sanders, as a Jew from a poor neighborhood, understands African American and civil rights history so much better than anyone else running. But because white men like him, he must be bad for everyone else.

3/15/2016 11:05:11 PM

^^^^ so with your mindset, there is absolutely nothing she can do or say

this has been posted here at least once, but it's a damn good read from a damn good writer:

http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2016/02/how-hillary-clinton-won-harlem.html

^ Bernie is a politician who never needed a black vote in his political life and it showed during this primary

before this primary, what had he done for black people during his time in Washington? again, this is coming from someone who voted for him today.

[Edited on March 15, 2016 at 11:09 PM. Reason : .]

3/15/2016 11:05:22 PM

Quote :

" I like how Trump can be summed up as a racist, but Bernie supporters can neatly place all blacks into one voting demographic with identical issues. It's about as dumb as Fox News not understanding how "evangelicals" could possibly vote for a candidate that doesn't win the "talks like a revival preacher" competition."

Bernie supporter I am not. It's not off base to say that the black vote is incredibly monolithic. Until they can no longer be counted on to side 85/15 or better for whoever the Democrats throw out there or for whoever the Democratic establishment pushes out there they will never get anything more than lip service. The Republicans don't try to win the black vote, the Democrats don't need to. That's a perfect recipe for getting ignored.

3/15/2016 11:07:42 PM

Yeah, this is what I was talking about earlier when I said that white liberals will turn on black voters as soon as they don't do exactly what they're told to do.

Not all black people cast their vote for the first person that guarantees to give them more welfare, but I'm sure you enlightened white voters know what's best for all black people, right?

3/15/2016 11:09:22 PM