NyM410 J-E-T-S 50085 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/304105-report-indictment-likely-in-fbis-clinton-foundation-probe" |
Good on Bret Baier for admitting on live TV that what he said and what was cited in this article was not just "inartful" but was a complete mistake. Some Hannity's would never do that.11/4/2016 1:00:43 PM |
Shrike All American 9594 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "why do you keep ignoring the fact that those wealthy donors also fund ISIL, which the Clintons were aware of when they accepted donations?" |
The bulk of the donations to Clinton Foundation from SA came before 2007 and they didn't give at all during Hillary's tenure as SoS, which ended in 2013. Islamic State was founded in 2014. So again, your assumptions are not only misguided, you're just plain wrong on the facts.11/4/2016 1:01:29 PM |
JCE2011 Suspended 5608 Posts user info edit post |
If you mean the SJW definition of racist, sure.
racist
[rey-sist] noun 1. A conservative that just beat a liberal in an argument. 11/4/2016 1:05:32 PM |
goalielax All American 11252 Posts user info edit post |
bless your heart 11/4/2016 1:13:26 PM |
adultswim Suspended 8379 Posts user info edit post |
^^^ conveniently ignoring that they also donated in 2014
and there is also the al qaeda link which was known to the government many years prior
[Edited on November 4, 2016 at 1:41 PM. Reason : .] 11/4/2016 1:41:01 PM |
TerdFerguson All American 6600 Posts user info edit post |
The distinction that has always been made in regards to KSA is that certain individuals in the country were financing terrorists and the government wasn't complicit, it just wasn't doing anything to try and restrict it. I think that distinction is a little dubious because let's face it, the vast majority of wealth in KSA is typically funneled through the government in some manner and most of the rich there are in some way connected to the royal family. Regardless of what I think, that's the US official position toward them.
And during Hillary's time as SoS she came down pretty hard on KSA particularly for its unwillingness to try and stop or even track giving to terrorists. As I understand it some pretty hefty diplomatic pressure was brought to bear on KSA and now the movement of money to terrorists has reduced significantly. 11/4/2016 2:07:03 PM |
JCE2011 Suspended 5608 Posts user info edit post |
You know, HRC fans, you could just acknowledge all the pay to play and cover up shit, and just say you still think she will have a more "stable" overall presidency because the establishment/banks will not get grabbed by the pussy...
Denying the blatant cash for favors and acting as if she is at all a desirable candidate is just T1 Hackery. You may fool yourself but at the end of the day shit is shit. 11/4/2016 2:57:52 PM |
adultswim Suspended 8379 Posts user info edit post |
^ Yes. Or at least hold her accountable after Nov 8... 11/4/2016 3:00:17 PM |
NyM410 J-E-T-S 50085 Posts user info edit post |
Nothing says I'm coming after you to the banks like Trump's promise to deregulate and his hiring of a Goldman Sachs exec to be his Treasury Secretary.
He'll fix corruption too with his new Attorney General, Chris Christie!! 11/4/2016 3:01:14 PM |
JCE2011 Suspended 5608 Posts user info edit post |
Trump is self funded (unprecedented in presidential race) Trump wants term limits for politicians Everyone in the establishment hates Trump Trump wants to audit the fed
Vs
Clinton, who is owned by Banks, Soros, special interests Is propped up by the incestuous relationship between DNC and media Who comes from the party exposed as being corrupt AF this cycle Who tells the public one thing, And her bank overlords another Who is likely to escape jail because the DOJ, potus, and media are all working for her Who will import millions of poor democratic voters further ruining the balance of power 11/4/2016 6:00:33 PM |
Dentaldamn All American 9974 Posts user info edit post |
Did you get lost in trumps butt?
YA. H A C K 11/4/2016 6:19:28 PM |
Shrike All American 9594 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "@jasoninthehouse FBI Dir just informed us "Based on our review, we have not changed our conclusions that we expressed in July with respect to Sec Clinton"" |
Don't let the door hit you on the way out, asshole.11/6/2016 3:27:26 PM |
NyM410 J-E-T-S 50085 Posts user info edit post |
Please let Trump have his phone. Please let Trump have his phone. 11/6/2016 3:34:21 PM |
UJustWait84 All American 25821 Posts user info edit post |
I, for one am, shocked. Can they reopen it again on Tuesday when the exit polls are coming in for good measure? 11/6/2016 3:56:34 PM |
eyewall41 All American 2262 Posts user info edit post |
Well the damage is done either way as it may have cost Hillary the Senate. If that is the case there will be no way for her to actually govern. Keep in mind the amount of early voting during the latest flap. 11/6/2016 4:51:35 PM |
UJustWait84 All American 25821 Posts user info edit post |
hearing rumors now that the FBI leaked all the emails to the GOP. if it's true, does it even matter anymore? 11/6/2016 9:01:04 PM |
goalielax All American 11252 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Trump is self funded" |
lolololol - motherfucker hasn't even given the full $100M he promised, let alone self funded
does either candidate keep comey as director of fbi?
[Edited on November 7, 2016 at 10:17 AM. Reason : .]11/7/2016 10:16:50 AM |
JCE2011 Suspended 5608 Posts user info edit post |
And how much has HRC put into her own campaign? The orange guy is turning down big $$$$, it's unprecedented.
Regarding the emails, they searched a subset (to and from HRC) and didn't find a smoking gun (shocker). 650k, chances are a subordinate might say "HRC wants ____". Could get interesting 11/7/2016 4:23:21 PM |
goalielax All American 11252 Posts user info edit post |
i'm sure you know more than the FBI. they're all just a bunch of cucked SJW hacks 11/7/2016 4:42:22 PM |
JCE2011 Suspended 5608 Posts user info edit post |
Where did I claim to know more than the FBI? Don't get triggered.
Clinton is good at being a calculating, corrupt criminal. She isn't so stupid as to have a typed record criminal intent. Hopefully if the FBI catches a subordinate referencing intent, they actually do their job instead of throwing out free immunity.
But we already saw the FBI investigator getting payed off via huge contributions to his wife's failing campaign...so I guess the DNC can't be stopped. Praise our dear leader Hillary! #ImWithHer 11/7/2016 5:47:43 PM |
Dentaldamn All American 9974 Posts user info edit post |
This is good stuff 11/7/2016 6:31:32 PM |
Shrike All American 9594 Posts user info edit post |
Part of me now wishes she actually was indicted or the Wikileaks really did contain some smoking gun of unrestrained corruption. There's no doubt in my mind that constant accusations and equivocations hurt her with the Democrats who simply didn't bother to vote. The fact that baseless character assassinations was a winning strategy is just plain bad for our democracy. 11/9/2016 3:19:21 PM |
bbehe Burn it all down. 18402 Posts user info edit post |
Man, you cannot admit that Clinton was the cause of her own defeat, can you? 11/9/2016 3:22:57 PM |
Doss2k All American 18474 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "The fact that baseless character assassinations was a winning strategy is just plain bad for our democracy." |
I wouldn't call is baseless. Just because they decided not to prosecute doesn't mean she didn't do some really stupid shit that most people know is wrong.11/9/2016 3:27:00 PM |
TerdFerguson All American 6600 Posts user info edit post |
Bare minimum, we need the truth from the FBI regarding their leaks, someone needs to be fired, that's a bare minimum. 11/9/2016 3:29:04 PM |
Shrike All American 9594 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Man, you cannot admit that Clinton was the cause of her own defeat, can you?" |
Her lack of charisma and political baggage is a large reason why she lost. There, I admitted it. Can you admit that Benghazi/emails/etc... were largely partisan witch hunts that never deserved the scrutiny they got? Even Bernie admitted that, why won't you?11/9/2016 3:50:53 PM |
adultswim Suspended 8379 Posts user info edit post |
Benghazi, yes, probably.
Emails, she clearly has something to hide and lied over and over. 11/9/2016 3:54:46 PM |
bbehe Burn it all down. 18402 Posts user info edit post |
^ That. 11/9/2016 3:58:16 PM |
BanjoMan All American 9609 Posts user info edit post |
Is it really even her fault? Why in the fuck would the DNC push to nominate somebody that was in that much hot water with the FBI?
I would say that in terms of "external factors", wiki leaks exposing her collusion with the DNC regarding Sanders was pretty damning. 11/9/2016 4:02:21 PM |
Shrike All American 9594 Posts user info edit post |
She had something to hide yet practically everything she sent or received via email during her tenure as SoS is available here,
https://foia.state.gov/search/results.aspx
It takes some serious cognitive dissonance to believe that she was somehow crafty enough to permanently hide the smoking gun, yet leave enough exposed to have fatally damaged her Presidential campaign. 11/9/2016 4:02:50 PM |
BanjoMan All American 9609 Posts user info edit post |
If she were an idiot, but she's not. I am assuming that she has the memory and mental capacity to remember the dates and classifications of questionable material and was able to delete all traces of it. Emails are the easiest thing on the planet to search and dig through.
[Edited on November 9, 2016 at 4:06 PM. Reason : second ] 11/9/2016 4:06:15 PM |
adultswim Suspended 8379 Posts user info edit post |
^^ She deleted 33,000 emails and lied about basically everything. 11/9/2016 4:15:37 PM |
moron All American 34142 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | " lied about basically everything" |
11/9/2016 4:32:49 PM |
Shrike All American 9594 Posts user info edit post |
^^The FBI discovered at least 15,000 of those emails during the course of their investigation. There was nothing there either. So I guess the smoking gun was in those remaining 17,000 emails that she super duper deleted?
Furthermore, why even use a "secret" email server and then proceed to send thousands of emails to state.gov accounts that are subject to FOIA? Why not just use a commercial email account and instruct her aides to do the same (like Colin Powell suggested). None of the accusations of intentional wrongdoing or criminality stand up to an ounce critical thought, especially in light of the FBI's conclusions. I do agree it was a stupid idea in the first place and she should have foreseen the political damage it caused, but the only thing she was guilty of is excessive hubris.
[Edited on November 9, 2016 at 4:41 PM. Reason : .] 11/9/2016 4:41:39 PM |
adultswim Suspended 8379 Posts user info edit post |
I disagree and I think we are both a little biased. Really pointless to argue about it unless further information comes out.
[Edited on November 9, 2016 at 4:47 PM. Reason : .] 11/9/2016 4:45:06 PM |
Shrike All American 9594 Posts user info edit post |
Fair enough, and it's a moot point now anyway. 11/9/2016 4:49:09 PM |
JCE2011 Suspended 5608 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "^^The FBI discovered at least 15,000 of those emails during the course of their investigation. There was nothing there either. So I guess the smoking gun was in those remaining 17,000 emails that she super duper deleted? " |
Are you being sarcastic?
Yes the damaging emails would be the ones she used bleachbit to completely wipe.
I'm amazed at the mental gymnastics being pulled off when you act as if acid-washing selected emails after a subpoena doesn't matter because she turned over the ones that weren't bad... seriously brah.11/9/2016 10:20:19 PM |
kdogg(c) All American 3494 Posts user info edit post |
http://archive.is/PBVpZ
Above link is to the 300 pages of reports on the Email investigation the FBI released on the 8th.
In it, investigators say:
Quote : | "Hostile foreign actors successfully gained access to the personal email accounts of individuals associated with whom Clinton was in regular contact and, in doing so, obtained emails sent to or received by Clinton on her personal account." |
Trump's cabinet hearings kind of subdued this, but it is still relevant to this thread.1/14/2017 10:01:33 AM |
synapse play so hard 60939 Posts user info edit post |
Yet another Kdogg Clinton thread bump.
Didn't see that coming. 1/14/2017 10:33:03 AM |
dtownral Suspended 26632 Posts user info edit post |
The briefing on the 8th also said they gained access to GOP emails 1/14/2017 10:50:56 AM |
beatsunc All American 10748 Posts user info edit post |
^i think they said it was the GOP's old system, not the current one but i didnt see the age of the ones that were hacked. i dunno 1/14/2017 12:15:52 PM |
JCE2011 Suspended 5608 Posts user info edit post |
Last day for Obama to issue a pardon to Hilldawg... 1/19/2017 12:44:32 PM |
kdogg(c) All American 3494 Posts user info edit post |
not true...he has until 11:59 am tomorrow 1/19/2017 6:11:45 PM |
synapse play so hard 60939 Posts user info edit post |
You idiots need to google WTF a pardon is. 1/20/2017 1:35:39 PM |
JCE2011 Suspended 5608 Posts user info edit post |
I will if you Google congressional subpoena 1/20/2017 1:43:31 PM |
NyM410 J-E-T-S 50085 Posts user info edit post |
https://twitter.com/samstein/status/948932683337551872
Oh we back. Good base play. The kdoggs of the world are gonna be rock hard.
[Edited on January 4, 2018 at 10:23 AM. Reason : X] 1/4/2018 10:22:57 AM |
NyM410 J-E-T-S 50085 Posts user info edit post |
IG report may drop today. Gonna be wild... 5/18/2018 8:08:48 AM |
dtownral Suspended 26632 Posts user info edit post |
the fun thing will be when the report says the investigation was mishandled and comey shouldn't have made those statements the pedes will try to use that to vindicate themselves even though it just means the FBI isn't anti-trump but actually helped him get elecetd 5/18/2018 8:58:42 AM |
NyM410 J-E-T-S 50085 Posts user info edit post |
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/doj-watchdog-finds-comey-defied-authority-fbi-director/story?id=55670834
Looks like the IG is going to really kill Comey for the things he did with the email investigation. Of course, most of it is about how he HURT clinton but Trump will win the narrative war as always over the feckless Democrats in Congress. 6/6/2018 11:01:24 AM |
TerdFerguson All American 6600 Posts user info edit post |
There are plenty of reasons to criticize Comey and the FBI, but the only way to arrive at calling Comey “insubordinate” is to view his actions in a total vacuum. Loretta Lynch, in so many words, basically washed her hands of the investigation (She said she would accept the FBI’s findings) while simultaneously refused to recuse herself. It’s not like Comey could just pass along his findings to a Lynch underling, that would also technically be insubordination?
Dude was in a tough spot, I don’t think he made the right decision, but let’s not act like it was a situation where he could just go follow some DOJ SOP. There was all kinds of “nonstandard” shit going down at that moment. 6/6/2018 11:49:45 AM |