dmspack oh we back 25537 Posts user info edit post |
Yeah Seabron could definitely get POY if he continues doing what he’s doing. Honestly haven’t even watched enough of other teams to know who the main candidates would be. 1/5/2022 10:27:20 AM |
Dynasty2004 Bawls 5859 Posts user info edit post |
it will be one of the duke kids I'm sure. 1/5/2022 10:53:26 AM |
dmspack oh we back 25537 Posts user info edit post |
Duke players also might split the vote, leaving the door open for somebody like Seabron. But there’s so much season left that it’s not worth debating at this point anyways. 1/5/2022 10:57:36 AM |
Bullet All American 28417 Posts user info edit post |
Seabron made some crazy circus shots this game (and most games)
and Smith & Ross both had emphatic dunks! Ross's was especially nice. 1/5/2022 12:10:27 PM |
Talage All American 5093 Posts user info edit post |
I would argue Seabron is actually in the lead for POY right now. He just showed he can continue doing what he's been doing against two of the best defensive teams in the ACC (FSU and VT). He's leading the ACC in rebounding and is top 3 in scoring. He's also top 10 in FG%. And is just outside the top 10 in both steals and assists. At the moment, the only player remotely close to him is probably Alondes Williams (tops in assists and 2nd in scoring). They're currently tied for most player of the week honors with two each.
I think if we went .500 or better in the ACC he's a complete lock to win because only way we get there is with him continuing to dominate. And even if we completely bomb (like 2013 VT, 4-14 record -- surely we can do better ), he still has a good chance to win. 1/5/2022 10:51:51 PM |
justinh524 Sprots Talk Mod 27845 Posts user info edit post |
I would argue that Banchero/Moore are still in the lead despite their inferior stats because Duke. 1/6/2022 1:29:44 AM |
Wolfey All American 2680 Posts user info edit post |
^Yeah its Coach K's last year the media that votes on this stuff love Duke/UNC so unless Seabron carries us to more wins against better opponents you can kiss any real consideration for POY goodbye. 1/6/2022 8:41:36 AM |
dmspack oh we back 25537 Posts user info edit post |
Pitt was awful last year and Champagnie finished tied for 2nd in POY voting. Seabron, if he continues this pace, will 100% be a serious candidate to win it regardless of what our record is. Erick Green won it when VT was awful. TJ Warren won it when we were a bubble team.
Idk if Seabron will win it. And a lot will change and become clearer in the next several weeks. But if he continues this, he’ll probably get a lot of votes and serious consideration.
[Edited on January 6, 2022 at 11:05 AM. Reason : A] 1/6/2022 11:05:09 AM |
Kickstand All American 11597 Posts user info edit post |
That one kid from Syracuse will probably win POY from name recognition alone. What's his name? Buddy? 1/6/2022 12:57:00 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148446 Posts user info edit post |
did someone say TJ Warren?
1/6/2022 1:48:28 PM |
rwoody Save TWW 37696 Posts user info edit post |
Where does this go? Is this what got Valvano in trouble with ncaa?
Quote : | "On this day in 1989, NC State basketball debuted their infamous @Nike unitard uniforms!
The Wolfpack wore them for one game, a 71-59 win over Temple, before retiring the concept.
@PackMensBball | @UniWatch https://t.co/TQefACbrWC" |
1/7/2022 7:25:24 PM |
dmspack oh we back 25537 Posts user info edit post |
Why is ACCN showing replays of bowl games instead of State-Clemson? Like…what kinda shitty tv deal does the ACC have where this shit is on Bally or whatever? 1/8/2022 12:04:38 PM |
dmspack oh we back 25537 Posts user info edit post |
I guess Gibson is in to try to guard Hall since he’s a bigger body. Just weird to see his minutes fluctuate so much 1/8/2022 12:28:58 PM |
dmspack oh we back 25537 Posts user info edit post |
Looked kinda like a pretty terrible charge call on Seabron there. 1/8/2022 12:41:03 PM |
Bullet All American 28417 Posts user info edit post |
Well this hasn't been pretty so far. 1/8/2022 12:43:23 PM |
dmspack oh we back 25537 Posts user info edit post |
Incredibly ugly game 1/8/2022 12:44:23 PM |
dmspack oh we back 25537 Posts user info edit post |
Refs really don’t wanna call any fouls on clemson. Allen hacked in transition and no call. Hellems shoved out of bounds trying to a save the ball, no call. 1/8/2022 12:46:16 PM |
jocristian All American 7527 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I guess Gibson is in to try to guard Hall since he’s a bigger body. Just weird to see his minutes fluctuate so much" |
Getting jerked around is the life of a Keatts bench guy. I'm not buying that Gibson is an upgrade over Ross. And even if he is a slight upgrade on defense, I would rather Ross get the experience here anyway.1/8/2022 12:53:51 PM |
dmspack oh we back 25537 Posts user info edit post |
Idk that he’s an upgrade over Ross. Ross definitely brings more to the table offensively. I just think in terms of size and build, maybe he’s a better match up vs Hall. Or at least that’s my guess for why he’s played more.
Clemson had 4 fouls in the first half. Now 3 in just 90 seconds of the second half. Lol. 1/8/2022 1:10:56 PM |
dmspack oh we back 25537 Posts user info edit post |
Getting no help from anybody except for Seabron. Need him to take over if nobody else is gonna step up 1/8/2022 1:18:47 PM |
rwoody Save TWW 37696 Posts user info edit post |
That foul on the 3 was killer 1/8/2022 1:56:49 PM |
justinh524 Sprots Talk Mod 27845 Posts user info edit post |
I didn't watch, but getting 1 rebound and 2 points combined from the 3 post players seems bad.
[Edited on January 8, 2022 at 2:02 PM. Reason : Update: 2 rebounds!!] 1/8/2022 2:01:54 PM |
dmspack oh we back 25537 Posts user info edit post |
Yeah we got abused in the post all day.
Terq couldn’t make anything so it was all on Seabron. We just don’t have enough consistent scorers to help Seabron. 1/8/2022 2:23:04 PM |
justinh524 Sprots Talk Mod 27845 Posts user info edit post |
If only Hellems rebounded more
Oh what's that, he was the leading rebounder?] 1/8/2022 2:29:05 PM |
jocristian All American 7527 Posts user info edit post |
It would be nice if he rebounded like that more often. I agree!
Unfortunately, he shot 22% from the field... only bested by TQ.
Seabron is definitely gone after this year.
So next year we are looking at a starting lineup in the fall of Pass (hopefully he can pass up Hayes), Terq, Morsell, Ebe/Ross/Gantt and some transfer yet to be gotten? That's a yikes from me dog! 1/8/2022 2:55:54 PM |
packboozie All American 17452 Posts user info edit post |
Amazing we only lost by 5 when the bigs/Terq/Cam did next to nothing.
7 assists and 15 turnovers. Sheesh. Half court offense is just Gibson/Ebe setting bad screens, sometimes not even touching the guys, and Seabron making drives. We never change anything. Haven't tried zone in any of Keatts tenure, and Hall was destroying us inside.
^Yeah that's rough. Even if Keatts survives this year, there is almost no way he makes it to year 7. The lack of ACC caliber bigs, erratic substitution patterns, no changes seemingly occurring. 1/8/2022 9:21:05 PM |
jocristian All American 7527 Posts user info edit post |
There were a few possessions of zone this game. One of our steals came from it. Everyone is pointing to bates not being there because we got abused inside, but we win this game anyways if anybody but Seabron doesn’t shit the bed offensively.
Sure would be nice having a second reliable scorer who can be another slash and kick guy. A nice 2 guard with some attitude to compliment Seabron. Maybe someone like that kid who plays the 2 at miss state. Man, if we had him we might win some games.
The fact that this program is 2+ years minimum away from even the chance of being good is the last straw for me on Keatts. Maybe he just has had shit luck and he will be a winner somewhere else. I hope so. There is no reason we should spend our first offseason recruiting outside of the NCAA cloud with a coach on the hot seat. Just hit the reset button.
[Edited on January 9, 2022 at 12:26 AM. Reason : D] 1/9/2022 12:20:46 AM |
Kickstand All American 11597 Posts user info edit post |
Tough game at the KFC YUM! Center tonight. 1/12/2022 6:33:23 PM |
GoldieO All American 1801 Posts user info edit post |
Turns on game, we immediately score 10 points, turning off game and going to bed before I jinx us. 1/12/2022 9:37:38 PM |
HaLo All American 14263 Posts user info edit post |
^turned off game. Louisville goes on 6-0 run 1/12/2022 9:51:59 PM |
jocristian All American 7527 Posts user info edit post |
Imagine playing Gibson at backup 5 for the first half the season. 1/12/2022 9:52:52 PM |
HaLo All American 14263 Posts user info edit post |
Goddamnit 1/12/2022 10:26:33 PM |
HaLo All American 14263 Posts user info edit post |
Wooooooooooo 1/12/2022 11:03:35 PM |
rwoody Save TWW 37696 Posts user info edit post |
Lol, 0 free throws first 36 min
Good win! 1/12/2022 11:21:09 PM |
natureboy All American 2803 Posts user info edit post |
That was an unexpected performance. If only we could shoot the three ball that well every game! Ice cream time. 1/12/2022 11:21:54 PM |
packboozie All American 17452 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Imagine playing Gibson at backup 5 for the first half the season." |
It's crazy we can sit on TWW and point out such obvious things. Ross should play over Ebe now.
And lol at Louisville fans booing all the foul calls when we didn't shoot a FT for 36 minutes.1/13/2022 1:53:22 AM |
jocristian All American 7527 Posts user info edit post |
The same could be said about the zone we pulled out in the first half that was effective. As long as Keatts is listening to the fans, how about sitting Cam down and giving Pass his minutes? We are way beyond “ slump” territory. Something is broken with his shot. He hasn’t been playing stellar D either. even if Pass is barely an upgrade at this point, give the minutes to the freshman. If we are gonna lose one of them to transfer, I’d rather it be Hayes. 1/13/2022 8:00:13 AM |
Dynasty2004 Bawls 5859 Posts user info edit post |
Hayes was +4 last night. 1/13/2022 8:26:13 AM |
rayef3rw All American 910 Posts user info edit post |
My big takeaway is that it's crazy how much better we play when we actually have inspired movement beneath the basket... feels like that's not something we've really been doing well the last coupled years
Also, any team with a single remotely tall player will continue to kill us with back doors as has happened all year. 1/13/2022 8:34:39 AM |
jocristian All American 7527 Posts user info edit post |
^^ Hayes was 1 for 7 last night and this was probably his best game in a month. When you win by 16, the whole team generally has a positive +/- 1/13/2022 8:45:45 AM |
cptinsano All American 11993 Posts user info edit post |
Ross looks like Seabron of last year. Brings a lot of energy when he comes in that the team feeds off of. Is also terrible. 1/13/2022 9:07:00 AM |
stevedude hello 4763 Posts user info edit post |
go team 1/15/2022 12:05:16 AM |
rwoody Save TWW 37696 Posts user info edit post |
Do we have any shot today 1/15/2022 10:55:34 AM |
DROD900 All American 24658 Posts user info edit post |
I don’t think I’ve ever been this apathetic about a game against Duke. Thanks Keatts 1/15/2022 12:24:31 PM |
rwoody Save TWW 37696 Posts user info edit post |
Ross out with ankle injury 1/15/2022 1:04:43 PM |
natureboy All American 2803 Posts user info edit post |
Hope we win but am predicting we lose by 23. If we shoot like last game we might be able to keep it close. 1/15/2022 1:08:17 PM |
packboozie All American 17452 Posts user info edit post |
Hayes in and immediately throws it away not even being pressured 1/15/2022 2:17:26 PM |
rwoody Save TWW 37696 Posts user info edit post |
They posted T's phone number. Trash fans.
Quote : | "Was standing by during pregame warmups reading the Crazies dirt sheet when N.C. State freshman Tequavion Smith came over and looked over my shoulder.
“What they saying about me?,” he said, grabbing the paper.
He seems excited to be playing in Cameron for the first time. https://t.co/q9LgHZczul " |
1/15/2022 2:30:44 PM |
cptinsano All American 11993 Posts user info edit post |
Exciting to see what Hayes has forgotten how to do each week. 1/15/2022 2:43:45 PM |
packboozie All American 17452 Posts user info edit post |
3 fouls on Duke. 3 fouls on Ebe. 1/15/2022 3:05:17 PM |