7000 year death penalty

5/24/2011 11:50:52 AM

5/24/2011 5:30:30 PM

Found this gem yesterday before a trail ride at 286 by Lake Crabtree.

5/25/2011 10:13:41 AM

i dont like unc

5/25/2011 10:20:30 AM

Heather Dinich on Butch Davis' lack of knowledge of anything

http://espn.go.com/blog/acc/post/_/id/25111/butch-davis-in-the-dark-again

Quote :

"North Carolina is oozing with NFL talent, recruited well enough to contend for a national title last season, and yet the Tar Heels have nothing to show for it but another eight-win season, an NCAA investigation and a 0-4 record against NC State. "

5/25/2011 5:23:25 PM

Quote :

"Coples signed out, according to a school spokesman, but not to Washington, D.C., where he was invited to a party with former teammates Marvin Austin and Robert Quinn. No, Davis wouldn’t have allowed Coples to attend that party if he knew about it. Most reasonable fans would concede to that. But it’s up to Davis to set a zero-tolerance policy about any NFL-related activities at least until the NCAA investigation has concluded. "

Also, can people stop acting like they should have had a national championship. Just because Les Miles went all crazy Les Miles and let them hang around that game they think they could have beat Auburn, Oregon, Alabama,etc.

thats like if we were to say 2005 team should have won a national championship for cause it had a top defense and a QB who threw a lot.

5/25/2011 5:55:25 PM

Very interesting article from SFN

http://www.statefansnation.com/index.php/archives/2011/05/25/pimp-my-ride-chapel-hill-edition/

5/25/2011 10:14:38 PM

so, the athlete couldn't have purchased an older model car this year?

5/25/2011 11:54:30 PM

haha for real. i get the insinuation, but that's a stretch.

"They bought year old cars when they could have bought new models!"

i don't buy it.

i do however feel that they have been operating in a less than honest fashion, but only time/NCAA sanctions will tell (if they even come down on UNC)

5/26/2011 12:09:53 AM

I think they're getting at it being fishy that several players buy a used vehicle right when they make their millions. Most people would get a brand new car, not one that is 1 year old.

5/26/2011 12:17:16 AM

oh it's definitely fishy. but if the NCAA has taken this long to even consider sanctions on the UNC football program, imagine what it will take to make these issues come to light.

5/26/2011 12:25:22 AM

It wouldn't be that weird for them to get year-old cars. Some people just don't want to buy new cars under any circumstances and at that age they're probably still getting that sort of advice from their parents.

/Flimsy excuse, I know, but picking out a few year-old cars is already kinda of thin

5/26/2011 11:22:14 AM

A year old maserati is very strange.

5/26/2011 1:02:30 PM

Quote :

"oh it's definitely fishy. but if the NCAA has taken this long to even consider sanctions on the UNC football program, imagine what it will take to make these issues come to"

These things take time. took UConn 2.5 years to get their punishment and I'm sure the NCAA is going to announce Duke's any day now for the Maggette incident

5/26/2011 1:14:35 PM

SFN needs to just stop.

5/26/2011 1:22:07 PM

Quote :

"It wouldn't be that weird for them to get year-old cars. Some people just don't want to buy new cars under any circumstances and at that age they're probably still getting that sort of advice from their parents."

talk about making a stretch

5/26/2011 1:45:47 PM

maseratis depreciate at a ridiculous rate for some reason

5/26/2011 1:49:47 PM

(because they're pieces of shit)



and yes the "bought an older car after the draft" shit is a far stretch


it's a sounder financial decision to buy something that's already depreciated.... sounds like these guys are getting solid financial advice... which you would hope to be the case for someone who starts making a shit ton of money. I wouldn't buy a brand new Maserati under any circumstances if i could get a year old one for a significant discount.

[Edited on May 26, 2011 at 5:41 PM. Reason : common sense shit, that]

5/26/2011 5:39:19 PM

mine does 185 (but i lost my license)

5/26/2011 5:39:56 PM

[Edited on May 26, 2011 at 6:02 PM. Reason : ]

5/26/2011 6:02:13 PM

I just love how all the IC faggots collectively just think this is all the NCAA's problem and that it has nothing to do with the things their coaches or players have done wrong

also a giant and at this post

Quote :

"Just think about how the ABC'ers and the Carolina haters are gonna react when UNC is a perennial Top 5 team in basketball and a consistent Top 10 challenger in football. The wuffies have a lot riding on whether Butch Davis succeeds in Chapel Hill, and the fact that he is well on his way scares them. Sure, they hide behind '4-0' and '41-10', but deep down they fear that our recruiting success and their laughable lack thereof is going to catch up to them in a big way. Butch Davis has the ability to bury NC State as a football program. It is my opinion that UNC and NC State cannot coexist as football powers. One has to be a power, the other has to be an afterthought of sorts. Wuffies know and fear that if UNC becomes powerful in football, the media attention, hype, and desirability to recruits will go through the roof and will be so heavily skewed in our favor, much moreso than it already is."

[Edited on May 26, 2011 at 7:15 PM. Reason : fuck unc]

5/26/2011 7:12:43 PM

I would love to see both schools become power football programs. Think about what the Big 10 has annually when Ohio State and Michigan are both up to par.

Although I disagree that they can't coexist, I unfortunately believe that neither will ever exist.

5/26/2011 11:11:32 PM

I would like to see unc-ch be the SMU of the ACC.

5/27/2011 7:25:13 AM

I would like to see UNC burned off the face of the planet with a high-powered laser.

5/27/2011 8:14:06 AM

Heading out of Fayetteville the other day to go to Winston Salem and stopped at Sonic to get a delicious Cherry Limeade and I saw this suburban. Some of Spring Lake's finest - notice the year round unc car flags.


[Edited on May 27, 2011 at 8:39 AM. Reason : asf]

5/27/2011 8:36:21 AM

Well now that the hammer as been dropped on USC's appeal one of two things are going to happen:

1. Carolina will and should get punishment at least equal to what USC received.

2. The NCAA lets them skate with a slap on the wrist and there is a major backlash against them and I would imagine USC will sue the shit out of them.

5/27/2011 9:35:59 AM

^unfortunately Ohio state will get hammered and Carolina will get a slap on the wrist while every body is paying attention to the Ohio State stuff and nobody but us and duke will care

5/27/2011 10:04:04 AM

Oh I promise OSU and USC will care at that point and that will matter much more than us or Duke caring

5/27/2011 10:13:23 AM

You have to be completely delusional to think the NCAA would favor UNC football over Ohio State or SC. Tar Heel football is a shitstain on those two programs' underwear.

The NCAA certainly won't let off UNC football easy if they are willing to go after real money making programs like tOSU and SC. Their punishment will be according to findings I'm sure.

Shit, even in bball the NCAA has dropped the hammer on elite programs in the last 15 yrs.

[Edited on May 27, 2011 at 10:20 AM. Reason : X]

5/27/2011 10:18:43 AM

^^^^^^^^^ what does this have to do with the Eagles?

5/27/2011 10:22:59 AM

^http://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/eagles/lifesbeengood.html

5/27/2011 10:24:15 AM

Quote :

"You have to be completely delusional to think the NCAA would favor UNC football over Ohio State or SC"

Its not so much about protecting UNC or OSU as it is about PR and protecting the NCAA.

Say what you will about Carolina's issues but they've been handling the PR battle much better than USC or Ohio State. The fact that OSU has been so brazen, fairly uncooperative, and doesn't appear to plan to cut ties with Tressel means they are pretty much asking to be sanctioned hard (Obviously nobody is going to get the death penalty).

The general public perception from at least a portion of people will be that Carolina's issues aren't a big deal and that they cooperated (even though we know they just say they are being cooperative but are really fighting to keep all the information tight).

I do agree that it would be easier to hammer a program with no national championship or bcs implications like carolina, but the level of the OSU stuff is so much that they have to get punished and can't get off the hook entirely therefore...

If UNC was to get a more severe punishment than OSU this would likely create a shitstorm for the NCAA which is already dealing with a lot of criticism for a large number of amateurism, unfairness, and other issues. Once again this is all about perception. By and large UNC isn't viewed as dirty and has a lot more support in the media both here and nationally. Also the fact that they aren't out there parading around and aren't a national program means less attention. So in the event they do get a stiffer punishment they would go out and whine that Ohio state was so much worse and got off easy, creating a problem for the NCAA. The NCAA is going to protect itself first and foremost.

Therefore the following are in my opinion the outcomes in order of most likely to actually occur.

Most Likely
1. Ohio state hammered (Vacated Wins, Scholarship Reduction, 40% chance of Show-Cause for Tressel), Carolina skates (only vacates wins)
2. Ohio state skates (Vacates wins), Carolina Skates (vacates wins)
3. Ohio state hammered (Vacated Wins, Scholarship Reduction, 40% chance of Show-Cause for Tressel), Carolina hammered (Vacate Wins, lighter scholarship reduction than OSU 50% chance Butch is fired but no show cause or any penalties for him)
4. Ohio state skates(vacates wins), Carolina hammered (scholarships and vacated wins)
LeastLikely

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Once again this isn't about what I think should happen or is right or just just what I think will happen cause of the perception and the PR handling and the NCAA protecting itself from accusations of protecting big schools and taking it out on the lesser programs.

5/27/2011 10:59:24 AM

you're high if you think that it's "most likely" that UNC skates

year-long investigations don't happen to innocent schools

5/27/2011 12:09:46 PM

Perhaps I'm just used to NC State Shit that I don't expect good things to happen

Also just to be clear I consider vacating of wins as basically meaningless and a slap on the wrist.

5/27/2011 12:43:30 PM

Quote :

"Say what you will about Carolina's issues but they've been handling the PR battle much better than USC or Ohio State. The fact that OSU has been so brazen, fairly uncooperative, and doesn't appear to plan to cut ties with Tressel means they are pretty much asking to be sanctioned hard (Obviously nobody is going to get the death penalty)."

uhhh...what?

5/27/2011 12:46:23 PM

Quote :

"I just love how all the IC faggots collectively just think this is all the NCAA's problem and that it has nothing to do with the things their coaches or players have done wrong also a giant at this post Quote : "Just think about how the ABC'ers and the Carolina haters are gonna react when UNC is a perennial Top 5 team in basketball and a consistent Top 10 challenger in football. The wuffies have a lot riding on whether Butch Davis succeeds in Chapel Hill, and the fact that he is well on his way scares them. Sure, they hide behind '4-0' and '41-10', but deep down they fear that our recruiting success and their laughable lack thereof is going to catch up to them in a big way. Butch Davis has the ability to bury NC State as a football program. It is my opinion that UNC and NC State cannot coexist as football powers. One has to be a power, the other has to be an afterthought of sorts. Wuffies know and fear that if UNC becomes powerful in football, the media attention, hype, and desirability to recruits will go through the roof and will be so heavily skewed in our favor, much moreso than it already is." "

i have to say I agree with the part I bolded.

5/27/2011 2:22:27 PM

Bitch Davis is closer to burying the unc-ch football program than the NC State football program.

5/27/2011 2:26:40 PM

I don't think we fear our lack of recruiting success or that we hide behind the fact that we have been owning them but UNC's recruiting is pretty intimidating.

5/27/2011 2:27:09 PM

Given the fact that we're posting in a 141 page thread that is titled as it is, it should be more like...

Quote :

"Butch Davis has the ability to bury NC State UNC's as a football program."

[Edited on May 27, 2011 at 2:28 PM. Reason : ^^Damnit! took too long w/ my formatting nonsense]

5/27/2011 2:27:36 PM

damn it, everytime i see this thread near the top I start wildly imagining new improprieties, money changing hands, death sentences, oh my.... Those first couple months were fun as hell.

5/27/2011 2:49:30 PM

Quote :

" but UNC's recruiting is pretty intimidating."

unfortunate for UNC, their coaching is not...

5/27/2011 2:58:25 PM

But with all this nonsense going on... You have to think that there could be reasons that their recruiting is so good...

5/27/2011 3:01:22 PM

Quote :

" but UNC's recruiting is pretty intimidating."

unfortunate for UNC, their coaching is not...

5/27/2011 3:03:08 PM

Quote :

" but UNC's recruiting is pretty intimidating."

unfortunate for UNC, their coaching is not...

5/27/2011 3:03:58 PM

Quote :

"The fact that OSU UNC has been so brazen, fairly uncooperative, and doesn't appear to plan to cut ties with Tressel Davis means they are pretty much asking to be sanctioned hard"

ftfy

5/27/2011 3:26:01 PM

Fairly obvious Ohio State has done a standard-bearing poor job at media relations with this fiasco. Worst I've ever seen.

By comparison SC and UNC look like world class orators.

5/27/2011 3:55:53 PM

Quote :

"I don't think we fear our lack of recruiting success or that we hide behind the fact that we have been owning them but UNC's recruiting is pretty intimidating."

5/27/2011 6:18:09 PM

If the hammer comes down, then the recruiting will take a big hit and won't have the chance to be intimidating.

And honestly, as far as records go, the only time it matters is when we play them head-to-head. Not being in the same division means we don't have to care. In fact, why not have UNC win all their Atlantic games accept for against us...it would be the best thing that could happen.

5/27/2011 6:48:00 PM

^ I never want UNC to win at anything.

5/27/2011 7:21:45 PM

all those 8-5 seasons sure are intimidating

5/27/2011 7:22:42 PM