Quote :

"I havent played online in forever, and havent seriously in nearly a year. I have no desire to. I sit behind a computer all day at work, then dont want to when i get home. my main computer with my poker programs hasnt been turned on in 2 weeks, ill use my laptop on the couch occasionally, but usually just for tww and aim."

Wow, I couldn't have said it better myself. I actually cashed the last of my accounts out last week, although Karim did convince me to play some ft a few days ago.

I can relate to some of the other things you said too especially when I got my first 40 hr a week job. The money really didn't mean anything. I could drop a $1000 pot and it wouldn't even phase me. Once I turned 21, some of my friends convinced me to cut back my playing a lot and socialize more and I'm pretty thankful for that. I've probably played 10 times live this year tops.

12/1/2006 4:34:06 PM

Quote :

"Basically doing coke of a hookers tits while driving 80 down the strip was the first sign.... "

but that was such a fun night!

12/1/2006 5:25:45 PM

i agree 100% with everything ben said.

im really glad i moved to charlotte and couldnt find any games here. i pretty much relate to most of what he said too. it just isnt worth playing in the long run.

12/1/2006 6:24:09 PM

you guys need an equilibrium of friends time and poker time

12/1/2006 6:33:43 PM

You still at work?

12/1/2006 6:53:13 PM

+

gonna be leavin for charlotte in a few

12/1/2006 6:55:06 PM

Equilibrium?

I spend 40+ hrs a looking at a computer screen and being anti social already. I don't want poker to be more hours on top of that.

12/1/2006 6:57:54 PM

Any thoughts to this? I could not see his raises as AK or AQ, much less calling my raises.

PokerStars Game #7261686690: Hold'em No Limit ($0.50/$1.00) - 2006/12/01 - 23:44:20 (ET)
Table 'Vibeke' 9-max Seat #9 is the button
Seat 1: TaTonk ($303.55 in chips)
Seat 2: tripCCC ($131.65 in chips)
Seat 3: pattco ($67.90 in chips)
Seat 4: Citra210 ($59 in chips)
Seat 6: payne max ($140.45 in chips)
Seat 8: kittiekat1 ($72.10 in chips)
Seat 9: Typhicane ($109.30 in chips)
TaTonk: posts small blind $0.50
tripCCC: posts big blind $1
ccstheday: sits out
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Typhicane [Kc Kd]
pattco: folds
Citra210: raises $2 to $3
beebs21 joins the table at seat #5
payne max: folds
kittiekat1: calls $3
Typhicane: raises $7 to $10
TaTonk: folds
tripCCC: folds
Citra210: calls $7
kittiekat1: folds
*** FLOP *** [2d 6d 7s]
Citra210: bets $5
Typhicane: raises $10 to $15
Citra210: calls $10
*** TURN *** [2d 6d 7s] [As]
Citra210: bets $18
Typhicane: raises $47 to $65
Citra210: folds
Typhicane collected $87.50 from pot
Typhicane: doesn't show hand
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $90.50 | Rake $3
Board [2d 6d 7s As]
Seat 1: TaTonk (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 2: tripCCC (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 3: pattco folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: Citra210 folded on the Turn
Seat 6: payne max folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: kittiekat1 folded before Flop
Seat 9: Typhicane (button) collected ($87.50)

12/1/2006 11:46:33 PM

Your reraise on the flop forces him to call a bet less than 1/4 of the pot. Come on Voooooooooooegele

12/2/2006 12:46:01 AM

He only had $16 left in his stack when I reraised, but the acewasa scary card.

12/2/2006 9:58:07 AM

Ok, this is a Fixed Limit game I was playing. How should I have played this or did I play it correctly.

UTG folds
UTG +1 Calls
UTG +2 Calls
UTG +3 Calls
D folds
SB calls
Me (BB) checks (Dealt A-7o)

Flop: A-10-7 rainbow
SB Bets
I call
UTG +1 Folds
UTG +2 and +3 call

Turn: 6 (matches the 7)
SB Bets
I call
Fold
Fold

River: Q (matches the 6 and 7)
SB Bets
I raise
SB calls and mucks

I was hoping for calls of the big bet on the turn, but they folded on me. Should I have gone ahead and raised or was it ok to call hoping to keep them in play?

Thanks for ideas.






[Edited on December 2, 2006 at 12:08 PM. Reason : .]

12/2/2006 11:50:33 AM

Your reraise on the flop forces him to call a bet less than 1/4 of the pot. Come on Voooooooooooegele

12/2/2006 12:06:59 PM

Quote :

"I was hoping for calls of the big bet on the turn, but they folded on me. Should I have gone ahead and raised or was it ok to call hoping to keep them in play? Thanks for ideas. "

raise turn, you want to push out hands now, go hu against your orig. bettor.

12/2/2006 1:07:32 PM

Agreed. I like waiting to raise on the turn, so I can get the most for my money. No reason to wait to the river.

[Edited on December 2, 2006 at 1:16 PM. Reason : ]

12/2/2006 1:15:58 PM

Thanks for the advice. The flop call is ok though?

12/2/2006 1:16:15 PM

I may have raised since so many people were in, but limit isn't exactly my forte'

12/2/2006 1:21:55 PM

if there was a 2 flush or another high card on board, id raise the flop.

otherwise, your hand is strong enough to take another card off.

putting the possible 4 flush on the turn merits a raise to punish possible backdoor draws, but the 6 wont scare off a strong ace from his hand.

tick for tack

12/2/2006 1:33:52 PM

typhicane: You played the hand fine, I don't know if david is joking or what

I'm not exactly sure why people lead at flops like this, but in my experience they generally don't have much. I generally only triple their bet also, making the total action approximately the same size as my c-bet would have been if they checked. It got a little tricky with the turn card, but you passed the test and took it down.

12/2/2006 1:35:41 PM

you dont think the guy had like TT or JJ or something here and didnt want to stack off with an ace on board?

12/2/2006 1:37:24 PM

He could have, but that may be giving him a little too much credit. Leading out tiny like that is usually a tell tale sign that he sucks, he could have a number of bullshit hands. I'm not really why some players do this, but I just raise them.

btw, I would have raised the flop if I had AK/AQ as well. Then fired out a 2/3-3/4 pot bet regardless of the turn.





[Edited on December 2, 2006 at 1:42 PM. Reason : btw]

12/2/2006 1:41:12 PM

i suck at nl

12/2/2006 1:42:50 PM

Justin, I wasn't joking. I've seen people make that exact play before with AK. They raise prelfop and call the reraise. If low cards flop they bet it hoping the other guy completely missed. If you reraise too small on the flop, they call because they think if they hit their ace or king they are good. Only having to call $10 to see the turn would definately be worth it imo. Imagine how the hand would have ended up if he did have AX...

12/2/2006 1:53:04 PM

then the op would have lost, bitched about a bad beat, and moved on.

12/2/2006 1:55:19 PM

right, which is why I see no reason for the small reraise on the flop

12/2/2006 2:00:06 PM

are you pushing for a larger flop raise?

fish on man, gotta set the hook, not yank it out of the mouth

[Edited on December 2, 2006 at 2:04 PM. Reason : e]

12/2/2006 2:04:19 PM

Oh, don't get me wrong. I love the play if there was no raise preflop or if someone raised preflop and you just called. I just don't really like it when you've already reraised preflop making it obvious you have a monster.

12/2/2006 2:08:00 PM

The flop raise is designed to stack a lower pair, and it should be big enough to get A high out. A 3x raise is on the small end of what I'm usually betting here, but I don't think it's a bad bet. He would have just c-bet $15 in a $20 pot if the dude had checked, so you're basically just ignoring that $5 donk bet.

The turn was very tricky, but like I said, he passed the test so more power to him. I probably would have raised too, because that's just my nature. But a lot of players take the more conservative route in this situation, which isn't necessarily wrong. My read on the opponents hand in this situation is maybe a lower pair(and yes, players will bet the scare card like this with such a hand) or just bullshit(which certainly includes a number of hands with an A in it). So I still think you're probably ahead of his range on the turn, which justifies a raise.




[Edited on December 2, 2006 at 2:12 PM. Reason : .]

12/2/2006 2:10:09 PM

Quote :

"The flop raise is designed to stack a lower pair, and it should be big enough to get A high out."

Understood, but all I was saying is I don't think it was big enough to get A high out.

12/2/2006 2:13:05 PM

but david,

you dont really want ace high out.

its drawing slimmer than top pair with a joined kicker

12/2/2006 2:14:22 PM

Unless you've got a real live one on your hands, they're folding A high. He's just spewing chips if he's calling with overs there, considering you're representing the overpair at every instance, if he hits the 3-outer then oh well. nhggwp.




[Edited on December 2, 2006 at 2:18 PM. Reason : .]

12/2/2006 2:17:42 PM

ok, so why not just call on the flop?

[Edited on December 2, 2006 at 2:18 PM. Reason : ^]

12/2/2006 2:17:52 PM

Cause that's not how we roll. We have the lead, don't let him take it away with some $5 donk bet. We actually have the goods this time too, but that's not really the point.




[Edited on December 2, 2006 at 2:20 PM. Reason : why do I edit so much?]

12/2/2006 2:19:30 PM

I was asking Ben. I knew what your answer would be.

12/2/2006 2:20:14 PM

WAR NOIDROID FTW

12/2/2006 2:20:48 PM

We should organize another tournament. Did you grow your hair back out?

12/2/2006 2:22:05 PM

A little. We got a .5/1 cash game going a few weeks ago in cary, I would love for that to start being a regular thing.

12/2/2006 2:23:42 PM

We?

12/2/2006 2:24:43 PM

Karim was there. It was at jonnySim's place, he's been a friend of Ben and mine for a long time.

12/2/2006 2:27:59 PM

Day/Time/Rake?

12/2/2006 2:32:48 PM

Day/Time/Rake = Whenever I can get enough/whenever/$0.00 up to $0.00

12/2/2006 3:52:22 PM

Glad my hand inspired some conversation. I thought I had a good read.

David, I see your point, but I agree with Noid. Set the hook, don't rip it out of the fish's mouth. $10 raise gave me control and grew the pot. Also setup his bluff. I am not sure what he folded, I should have checked. A(baby) would have been great, but I figure it was 10-10 or J-J.

12/2/2006 4:25:12 PM

Fair enough. So, why don't you just call the turn so he will bet into you again on the river?

12/2/2006 6:18:37 PM

With only$16 left I thought he was pot committed regardless.

12/2/2006 6:48:41 PM

usually.

12/2/2006 6:54:51 PM

We're looking to get a game going tommorrow night at jonnySim's place in cary.

No rake
.5/1NL, $40 min buy-in/$100 max
Starts at 8:00, or whenever the majority wants it to start


PM me if you're interested

12/5/2006 7:22:54 PM

I'll probably be watching the game, but let me know next time you guys play.

12/5/2006 10:41:47 PM

id pwn you fags.

12/5/2006 11:00:23 PM

ngaplz

12/5/2006 11:25:20 PM

Whatev.

12/5/2006 11:26:12 PM

hows that table i built holdin up

12/5/2006 11:26:19 PM